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Post by Afro on Thu 10 May 2018, 12:04 pm

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Welcome  to the Miky Challenge League




This Week's Fixtures

Week 11
Perth Morning Glory  v Wellington Phoenix
Adelaide United  v Central Coast Mariners
Sydney FC  v Western Sydney Wanderers
Melbourne City  v Newcastle Jets
Melbourne Victory  v Brisbane Roar
 





This Week's Key Deadlines

- 2 new Lawyers drawn on Tuesday
- Injuries drawn Wednesday
- 2 releases per week max
- Tactics due Friday




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https://www.twitch.tv/hero606v2

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Team_________Manager
Adelaide United_________Hero
Brisbane Roar_________Miky
Central Coast Mariners_________Olly
Melbourne City_________Twist
Melbourne Victory_________Afro
Newcastle Jets_________Nadz
Perth Glory_________Marky
Sid Knee CF_________Nando
Wellington Phoenix_________Bam
WS Wanderers_________Tino
Match_________Transfer_________Other
Fixtures/Results_________Lawyers_________Rules
Table_________Foreigns_________Youth Rules
Injuries_________Releases_________Press Conferences
Tactics_________Confirmation_________
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Post by TwisT on Thu 24 May 2018, 5:06 pm

Marky wrote:Twist, Futwiz does.

If you go onto their site, Fifa 18 career mode, find the player, it'll tell you their ratings but also their ratings in different positions. Really handy.

Cheers Marky, SoFiFa does the same. Unless I have missed something it doesn't say how their overall rating goes on to affect their ratings for pace, shooting etc though.

So https://www.futwiz.com/en/fifa18/player/lucas-torreira/39623

Torreira is 77 for a CDM and his acceleration is 82. If I play him as a CB (where he is rated 68), how does it affect the acceleration rating of 82? Does it go down by the same amount (so in this case by 9)

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Post by Afro on Thu 24 May 2018, 5:25 pm

I don't think it affects the individual ratings in that way. If you are 82 quick up front, you are going to be 82 quick at FB.

It probably takes into account the skills required for each position and works out a rating based on those skills
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Post by TwisT on Thu 24 May 2018, 7:20 pm

Afro wrote:I don't think it affects the individual ratings in that way. If you are 82 quick up front, you are going to be 82 quick at FB.

It probably takes into account the skills required for each position and works out a rating based on those skills

If that's the case then really it doesn't matter if you play someone out of position if you feel their individual ratings could suit a different position?

Interesting that really if true. I would expect it to penalise you in some way.

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Post by Trebs on Fri 25 May 2018, 8:58 am

TwisT wrote:
Afro wrote:I don't think it affects the individual ratings in that way. If you are 82 quick up front, you are going to be 82 quick at FB.

It probably takes into account the skills required for each position and works out a rating based on those skills

If that's the case then really it doesn't matter if you play someone out of position if you feel their individual ratings could suit a different position?

Interesting that really if true. I would expect it to penalise you in some way.

My plans for the reboot are already in the public domain Sad

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Post by Afro on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:06 am

TwisT wrote:
Afro wrote:I don't think it affects the individual ratings in that way. If you are 82 quick up front, you are going to be 82 quick at FB.

It probably takes into account the skills required for each position and works out a rating based on those skills

If that's the case then really it doesn't matter if you play someone out of position if you feel their individual ratings could suit a different position?

Interesting that really if true. I would expect it to penalise you in some way.

Well it penalises you to the extent that they might be rated at 82 at CB, but would then be, say 78 at FB and 77 at DM, so the more out of position a player is played, the worse they will be.

The bit I'm not quite sure about is that all players have the same ratings on the left hand positions as on the right hand positions. I disregard this a little as I work on the basis that if they have a low rating on their weak foot, they are always going to be cutting on to their strong foot
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Post by Hero on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:43 am

I'll trial a few games over the weekend with players really out of positions (Aubameyang at CB, Silva up front etc) and see how it plays out.

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Post by Hero on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:47 am

In the meantime though... Miky/Tino...tactics still required Wink

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Post by TwisT on Fri 25 May 2018, 10:10 am

Afro wrote:
TwisT wrote:
Afro wrote:I don't think it affects the individual ratings in that way. If you are 82 quick up front, you are going to be 82 quick at FB.

It probably takes into account the skills required for each position and works out a rating based on those skills

If that's the case then really it doesn't matter if you play someone out of position if you feel their individual ratings could suit a different position?

Interesting that really if true. I would expect it to penalise you in some way.

Well it penalises you to the extent that they might be rated at 82 at CB, but would then be, say 78 at FB and 77 at DM, so the more out of position a player is played, the worse they will be.

The bit I'm not quite sure about is that all players have the same ratings on the left hand positions as on the right hand positions. I disregard this a little as I work on the basis that if they have a low rating on their weak foot, they are always going to be cutting on to their strong foot

But is that bit true? Obviously playing a striker in a CB role will have a knock on effect because they were have low standing/sliding tackle ratings. But say I had I had a CM, who was relatively quick, strong and had reasonable defending stats. If I played them at FB the overall rating will go down even though i feel they have the right attributes to succeed there and, we assume as you said earlier, that their individual stats such as acceleration and strength won't change no matter where they are put.

I suppose the question is if someone is rated 82 at CB and 78 as FB, what actually changes? Does a lower rating in another position actually change anything?

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Post by Trebs on Fri 25 May 2018, 11:54 am

It doesn't actually change the player ratings - i.e. the shooting, passing, tackling ability.

It's more a recommendation from fifa not to play the player in a specific position. Playing full backs at centre back was my plan as they tend to be fast with good tackling ability.

But yeah, if you play aubemayang as a cb he'd still have the incredible pass but will screw up tackles.

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Post by Marky on Fri 25 May 2018, 1:08 pm

If you played a back three, you could comfortably get away with playing either a LB or a CB as the LCB, same with a RB or a CB at RCB.

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Post by Brooksey79 on Fri 25 May 2018, 2:09 pm

yo

sorry been manic. tactics on the way

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Post by Hero on Fri 25 May 2018, 2:26 pm

cheers sweetcheeks

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Post by Brooksey79 on Fri 25 May 2018, 2:42 pm

anything for you (well apart from Salah)

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Post by Marky on Fri 25 May 2018, 4:50 pm

Am I right in saying the earliest we would reboot is September (for Fifa 19)?

In which case there's probably time to get a third season out of this?

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Post by Hero on Fri 25 May 2018, 5:06 pm

We're at week 8 now so another 10 weeks of season 2. That'd take us until the beginning of August. I'm then on hols from the 10th to 17th so we'd only have 4 - 5 weeks after that for a season.
I'd say we do something with those weeks but probably not a full season.

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Post by Afro on Fri 25 May 2018, 5:57 pm

I’m also off 17th to 31st August. I suspect a few people will be in the same boat over August.
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Post by Hero on Fri 25 May 2018, 7:42 pm

Yeah what I'm thinking is for those few weeks we run a European competition using the teams?

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Post by Brooksey79 on Fri 25 May 2018, 8:47 pm

Hang on so is this the final season?

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Post by Marky on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:08 pm

Here's my big idea to make Season 3 work in a shorter timescale.

At the end of Season 2, Top 5 into League A, Bottom 5 into League B, fewer fixtures but still means we have a competitive Season 3 and also gets done in time.

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Post by Afro on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:10 pm

Sounds a good idea to me Ok!
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Post by Brooksey79 on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:23 pm

Well if we're rebooting my 72m signing of an 81 rated Salah was pointless. Does anyone want him?

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Post by nadeem2099 on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:28 pm

I'll give you Cutrone + Dzeko + Rodri for him
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Post by Afro on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:31 pm

Brooksey79 wrote:Well if we're rebooting my 72m signing of an 81 rated Salah was pointless. Does anyone want him?

Isn’t he 87 rated?
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Post by Brooksey79 on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:35 pm

I'm sure his standard card is 81

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Post by Brooksey79 on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:36 pm

Sorry 83...

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Post by nadeem2099 on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:58 pm

I think he got upgraded to 85 in the winter, that's what happened to him on ultimate team.
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Post by Brooksey79 on Fri 25 May 2018, 10:15 pm

I'm not sure. I just presumed that the players were the default rating

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Post by nadeem2099 on Fri 25 May 2018, 10:42 pm

He's either 85 or 87. Hero can confirm which one. If you do decide to sell him I can offer your boy Cutrone in a deal.
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Post by Marky on Sat 26 May 2018, 6:38 am

To be fair Tino if you get a lawyers offer you could probably buy Dybala/Griezmann so worth hanging onto

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Post by Hero on Sat 26 May 2018, 10:03 am

Salah is 86

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Post by Marky on Tue 29 May 2018, 10:45 am

Morning. Any more thoughts on the below idea to ensure we fit in a Season 3?

Marky wrote:Here's my big idea to make Season 3 work in a shorter timescale.

At the end of Season 2, Top 5 into League A, Bottom 5 into League B, fewer fixtures but still means we have a competitive Season 3 and also gets done in time.

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Post by Hero on Tue 29 May 2018, 10:49 am

Didn't see it the first time but happy to run with it!

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Post by Marky on Tue 29 May 2018, 10:52 am

I'm just so against the idea of another v2 league ending after 2 seasons, that's all.

Could also just do a tournament, with the two groups of 5, top 2 in each group make the semi finals

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Post by Hero on Tue 29 May 2018, 10:57 am

I totally agree in regards to reboots on here but I also think we've got a league set up now that's got people interested again. We get the framework right for when Fifa 19 comes in and it should make for an epic league going forward.

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Post by Afro on Tue 29 May 2018, 11:02 am

I really want a long standing league but we did also say that this season would be a trial run for a FIFA league where we could start small and go for a really long league once FIFA 19 is out.

Happy with any kind of plan that fill the gaps although it will also coincide with holiday season.
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Post by Afro on Tue 29 May 2018, 11:14 am

Is anyone able to do Lawyers and injuries?

I can’t manage it this week as I’m in Pembrokeshire with intermittent signal and my phone
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Post by Fernando on Tue 29 May 2018, 11:56 am

I will do Injuries

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Post by Fernando on Tue 29 May 2018, 11:59 am

Can someone do mine whilst i do them Ok!

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Post by Marky on Tue 29 May 2018, 12:08 pm

I'll do yours in a sec

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Post by Hero on Tue 29 May 2018, 12:16 pm

In regards to next season what level shall we start at?
And how do we cap/slow the level of players coming in?

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Post by Fernando on Tue 29 May 2018, 12:17 pm

Injuries are ready to go and im never doing them again Laugh

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Post by Marky on Tue 29 May 2018, 12:24 pm

There were 28 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Centre Mid - Abdoulaye Doucoure (10.8m) - Watford
Centre Mid - Fred - (17.1m) - Shaktar
Centre Mid - Yaya Toure - 4.5m - Man City
Goalkeeper - Samir Handanovic - 9m - Inter
Centreback - Kostas Mavropanos - 1.8m - Arsenal
Winger - Pedro Rodriguez - 22.5m - Chelsea
Right Back - Antonio Valencia - 9m - Man Utd
Centreback - Medhi Benatia 15.3m - Juventus
Striker - Aritz Aduriz - £900k - Bilbao
Winger - Ivan Perisic - £36m - Inter Milan
Centreback - Sokratis - (19.8m) - Dortmund
Winger/Striker - Marcus Rashford - 45m - Man Utd
Right Back - Stephan Lichtsteiner (1.8m) - Juventus
Centre Mid - Arturo Vidal - 31.5m - Bayern
2nd LB - Christian Fuchs - £5.4m - Leicester
Centreback - Miranda - £8.1m - Inter
Centre Mid - Luca Modric - £36m - Real Madrid
Goalkeeper - Sergio Asenjo - 6.75m - Villareal
Winger/Striker - Marko Arnautovic (16.2m) - West Ham
Goalkeeper - Thomas Strakosha - (11.7m) - Lazio
Defensive Mid - Javi Martinez - £28.8 - Bayern
Left Back/DM - David Alaba - £34.2m - Bayern

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Post by Afro on Tue 29 May 2018, 1:11 pm

Hero drew mine and Bams injuries last week so we could do tactics. Whilst I would probably be happy with the different injuries, I can’t redo tactics!
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Post by Hero on Tue 29 May 2018, 1:30 pm

Yeah Bam and Afro injuries stand from before x

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Post by Afro on Tue 29 May 2018, 1:37 pm

Hero wrote:I'll trial a few games over the weekend with players really out of positions (Aubameyang at CB, Silva up front etc) and see how it plays out.

Did you get a chance to do this? Be interested to know how it went?
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Post by Afro on Tue 29 May 2018, 1:39 pm

Hero wrote:You may regret asking...

For you:


[*]Giorgio Chiellini (Juventus) - £9m

[*]Simone Verdi (Bologna) - £18m

[*]Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid) - £45m




For Bam:



[*]Filipe Luis - £9m - 86 (Atletico Madrid)

[*]Lassana Diarra - £2.3m - 80 (PSG)

[*]Iago Aspas - £18m - 84 (Celta Vigo)




Simone Verdi got changed to Sime Vrsaljko as I sold Verdi to Lawyers last week.
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Post by Afro on Tue 29 May 2018, 3:17 pm

Sorry to pester but any chance of some lawyers.

Then I can get my tactics finalised for Hero
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Post by BamBam on Tue 29 May 2018, 3:44 pm

Bunch of slackers, thought I'd be able to do transfers and leave tactics to hero before I fly out tomorrow

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Post by Afro on Tue 29 May 2018, 4:04 pm

Ditto. Did tactics thinking I could sell and buy a couple, and just change a couple of names
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