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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:13 am

First topic message reminder :

And we start off with news Conte has been sacked by Chelsea, with Sarri and Jorginho's arrivals imminent
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:38 am

True, I don’t know why I’m doing it

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Post by Just John on Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:59 pm

Anyone seen proposed new rules for next season, along with VAR?

1Accidental handball goals will be disallowed
2.Handball will be given if it strikes an arm beyond the body's natural silhouette -regardless of intent
3.Attackers banned from walls at free kicks
4.Substituted players must leave by the nearest touchline or goalline
5.Goalkeepers need only have one foot on the goalline at penalties
6.Red and yellow cards to be shown to dissenting team officials.
7. A penalty is over as soon as the goalkeeper saves it. Think that’s awful, takes away all the excitement and all that frantic action during the subsequent scramble for a rebound etc.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:17 pm

So what happens when it rebounds? Corner?

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Post by Just John on Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:33 pm

Goal kick, I believe

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:36 pm

I don’t mind 1, 4, 5, 6.

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Post by lfc91 on Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:47 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I don’t mind 1, 4, 5, 6.

Agreed.

7 is terrible. Also, can't understand why 3 would even be considered. What does it matter?

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Post by lfc91 on Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:48 pm

OK so it has just dawned on me that means opposing teams attackers....

My bad.

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Post by Duty281 on Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:09 pm

Just John wrote:Anyone seen proposed new rules for next season, along with VAR?

1Accidental handball goals will be disallowed
2.Handball will be given if it strikes an arm beyond the body's natural silhouette -regardless of intent
3.Attackers banned from walls at free kicks
4.Substituted players must leave by the nearest touchline or goalline
5.Goalkeepers need only have one foot on the goalline at penalties
6.Red and yellow cards to be shown to dissenting team officials.
7. A penalty is over as soon as the goalkeeper saves it. Think that’s awful, takes away all the excitement and all that frantic action during the subsequent scramble for a rebound etc.

1/3/4 are all fine. 6 won't be enforced (well except during the first week of the season). 5 is pretty much the case already. 2 will cause greater confusion than ever before. 7 is a bizarre change and not one I would support.

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Post by Afro on Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:31 pm

I don't get the need for 7. Usually rule changes are done to resolve an issue or to clarify something that is unclear.

Who thought there was an issue with play continuing when a keeper saves a penalty.

Also what about if it comes off the post or bar back into play?
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Post by Duty281 on Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:00 am

Apparently the rebound rule isn't actually coming into force, and it has been misreported by various news sites. I can't actually find any mention of it on the IFAB website. Another actual change is that the ball doesn't have to leave the penalty area during a goal kick.

http://theifab.com/news/133rd_annual_general_meeting

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Post by Afro on Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:03 am

Duty281 wrote: Another actual change is that the ball doesn't have to leave the penalty area during a goal kick.


That's is probably sensible as teams are using it to try and take a quick goal kick, but then stepping inside if they come under pressure
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Post by compelling and rich on Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:18 am

if they brought in 7 it would be terrible. one of the most dramatic moments in recent history wouldn't have happened (watford v leceister playoff game) if this rule was applied

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Post by Beer on Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:37 pm

7 got rejected i believe.

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Post by Just John on Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:53 am

Newcastle 0-2 Everton HT
Newcastle 3-2 Everton FT

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:46 am

Jordan Pickford doing his best to emulate the hapless Joe Hart

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Post by Duty281 on Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:26 am

Tottenham threw away another lead - looks like they'll finish 6th.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:48 pm

Some days VAR is questioned, but surely it would have seen Pickford sent off and Sterling’s first goal ruled out. Baffling decisions

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Post by Duty281 on Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:07 pm

Shaky start from Liverpool, and Burnley score direct from a corner. Collectors item.

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Post by Atila on Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:10 pm

Ole confirmed as manager of United.

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Post by compelling and rich on Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:40 am

Atila wrote:Ole confirmed as manager of United.

most positive thing from the press conference was that it sounds like we will be in for at least couple of new players. for me rw,rb and cb should be the priority

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Post by GSC on Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:36 pm

In amongst the title fight and Uniteds resurgence under Ole, Emery quietly has Arsenal in the driving seat for a return to the CL.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:41 pm

Yes indeed, which has been all the more helped by Spurs going mad. Worth noting that whilst their home form is terrific, 10 wins on the spin, but 5 of their last 7 are away. 

Even though they have no big six opposition left, going away to Everton, Watford, Wolves, Leicester and Burnley could be just the kind of tricky that Arsenal go barmy for.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:51 pm

Race for the top four with points, goal diff and fixtures:

63 (+26) Arsenal: Everton (A), Watford (A), Palace (H), Wolves (A), Leicester (A), Brighton (H), Burnley (A)
61 (+24) Spurs: Palace (H), Huddersfield (H), City (A), Brighton (H), West Ham (H), Bournemouth (A), Everton (H)
61 (+19)United: Wolves (A), West Ham (H), Everton (A), City (H), Chelsea (H), Huddersfield (A), Cardiff (H)
60 (+18) Chelsea: Brighton (H), West Ham (H), Liverpool (A), Burnley (H), Man U (A), Watford (H), Leicester (A)

Looking at that, Arsenal and Spurs should make up the final two places, leaving Ole at the wheel of a Europa campaign, but depends on Arsenal keeping their s*** together.

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Post by GSC on Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:31 am

Be something if Emery and Sarri delivered CL football and Potch and Ole were left on the outside
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Post by Duty281 on Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:29 am

Would back Arsenal and United to finish in the top four as things stand. Tottenham have completely collapsed since Kane returned - four PL wins in a row when he was out, one point out of 15 since his recovery.

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Post by superflyweight on Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:58 am

Think Spurs and United might do it.

Spurs should take 18 points from those 7 games and the move to their new stadium might just give them the boost they need.

Think it's then between Arsenal and United and can see Arsenal dropping points away from home (they have five away matches and none of those trips are particularly easy).

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Post by Just John on Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:52 am

Fulham relegated

3 defeats in 4 for United. Been poor for a while, with the PSG comeback masking the fact that they’ve pretty much reverted back to JM performances. No idea why United felt the need to announce OGS as permanent manager either, when the main objectives had still not been achieved. Honeymoon well and truly over for OGS.

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Post by Atila on Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:27 am

Just John wrote:Fulham relegated

3 defeats in 4 for United. Been poor for a while, with the PSG comeback masking the fact that they’ve pretty much reverted back to JM performances. No idea why United felt the need to announce OGS as permanent manager either, when the main objectives had still  not been achieved. Honeymoon well and truly over for OGS.
I have no problems with Solskjaer so far. The job was never going to be easy and there is still a lot of work to do during the off season.

For me, Solskjaer is a good appointment and I think he is what is needed if United are going to appoint a Director of Football. Solskjaer I think, is part of a restructuring of the way the club will be run with regard to the playing side which I think United need. United have appointed a company man rather than a big name manager like Mourinho who constantly moaned about players and United business in the press.

As for the players? I do want United to win the Prem, Champ League etc. but I only want players there who want to be there. I'd be happy to watch a mid-table United with players wanting to be there and trying their best to represent the club rather than a bunch of mercenary "superstars" screwing the club who will take off as soon as a better offer comes along. Players like Pogba make me sick.

If Pogba wants to leave, then sell him and get as much as they can for him. I've been following United since before Pogba was born. I support United, not Pogba.

GGMU.

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Post by GSC on Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:49 am

Probably too soon to say on Ole. But the issues off the pitch still remain. Will see if the technical director is more of a PR ploy or leads to a genuine shake up. My money is probably more on the former.
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Post by Atila on Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:04 am

I don't see why it would be a PR move. Appointing a technical/director of football seems like a good idea and something tells me that Solskjaer won't be allowed to identify his own targets and just go out and try to buy them like managers used to do. Other people will be involved in decision making on players.

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Post by GSC on Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:22 pm

I think United are aware of Woodwards public profile, and I suspect it's more damning than the private perception of what he does. 

Bad midweek for United, the game against Chelsea probably looks like a must win now.
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Post by Just John on Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:54 am

Leicester 0-1 Newcastle FT Yahoo

Benitez masterclass over Rodgers

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Post by Atila on Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:32 am

Well done Newcastle United. I think they're going to make it, by make it I mean stay up. OK

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:34 am

Phil Foden's first premier league goal was enough for a nervous Manchester City to beat Spurs 1-0 and return to the top of the table.

All in City's hands now

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Post by Duty281 on Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:50 pm

Everton presently pummelling Man United.

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Post by GSC on Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:27 am

A few United players already on their holidays
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Post by Duty281 on Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:47 am

3-0 is nearing humiliation territory. This will be six losses in the last eight games for United, with only narrow home wins over West Ham and Watford providing solace.

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Post by Just John on Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:27 am

4-0

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Post by Duty281 on Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:32 am

United lost. Tottenham lost. Arsenal are 1-3 down at home to Palace, at a time of the season when they usually play like title winners. Nobody wants places three and four.

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Post by Duty281 on Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:41 pm

6/1 available on Cardiff to stay up. Might be worth a punt. They have two very winnable games - home to Palace, away to Fulham - and an away tie against Manchester United. Brighton have away games against Tottenham and Arsenal, plus home games against Newcastle and City.

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Post by Duty281 on Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:43 am

Valuable late win for Tottenham - neat hit by Eriksen - after Chelsea drew yesterday.

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Post by Duty281 on Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:28 am

City cruising against United, 2-0 up, De Gea doing very poorly for both goals. Three games from the title, and no difficult games on the horizon. Nice to see Sane having an impact in this one. Bar Rashford, United haven't threatened at all.

Arsenal getting battered in the Midlands, meanwhile.

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Post by GSC on Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:22 am

Regardless of who they want to win the title a pretty sobering night for United. City never hit top gear and won easily. Glazer's cant deny bigger changes than a few players or manager needed at this point.

City have been the team finishing strong while Liverpool hang on, but it only takes one bad game...
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Post by GSC on Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:26 am

Spurs probably just about secure in the top 4 now with a 4 point gap to Arsenal in 5th.

Pick whichever of the other 3 falls over the line
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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:43 am

Never thought I'd see a club in a shambles than my beloved Arsenal at the end with Wenger, but United might actually be worst. Their transfer work looks worst by every passing game.
Pogba €100m
Lukaku 90m
Fred 50m
Matic 40m
Sanchez and his ridiculous salary

Pogba is vastly overrated, he was a luxury at Juve surrounded by genuinely great players. United can't afford 'luxury players', when they've got so many mediocre players.

Lukaku isn't a top striker and never will be. Matic was on the slide at Chelsea and gets worst after every game for United. Fred is one of the worst players I've ever seen especially for a club of United's caliber.

Lingard is no more than a squad player. Martial has the attitude of an all time great when in reality he's a rather average player.

Without wholesale changes United will end up like Liverpool, living in the past.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:25 pm

GSC wrote:Regardless of who they want to win the title a pretty sobering night for United. City never hit top gear and won easily. Glazer's cant deny bigger changes than a few players or manager needed at this point.

City have been the team finishing strong while Liverpool hang on, but it only takes one bad game...

The good news is they just hired a manager who's greatest achievement is beating some vikings in Norway, and are apparently going to hire a man as technical director who in his last job of similar ilk took his team to the bottom of the A League against some kangaroos
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Post by Just John on Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:13 pm

PFA team of the year

Ederson
Alexander-Arnold
Laporte
Van Dijk
Robertson
Fernandinho
Pogba picard
Bernardo Silva
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Mane
Aguero

Virgil Van Dijk awarded Player of the Year

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Post by Marky on Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:47 pm

Remember when Man U fans lauded it up over signing Sanchez and Fred ahead of City? Laugh

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Post by GSC on Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:59 pm

Dont have much issue with that team. Think Wan-Bissaka got hit with the not playing for a top 6 team modifier to an extent and Pogba is an eye raiser after last night but was also pivotal in Uniteds winning run soooooo I dunno.
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Post by sirfredperry on Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:38 am

Pogba is probably the most controversial - and incorrect - choice since the Prem Lge started.

I happen to think he is a brilliant player. But he was abject for the first part of the season, played a few good games when OGS took over and then was fairly crappy for the rest of the time. How he got in ahead of the likes of Hazard is a complete mystery.

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