Post Schmidt Ireland

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It must be clearer than ever who would be the best to take over after joe. This year will probably be the clincher

Pot Hale wrote:

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:Guns is still 100% muck savage.

Rog is in no hurry. He is still learning and one mistake ands it’s EOS all over. He would only come back if Schmidt asked him (which is possible but not sure joe would want to rock a steady ship). If anything the irfu should look to get rog involved in Connacht down the line

Now that would be fun to watch.   I presume the IRFU plan is to have one in every province.  Eventually.    

A Rog in every Province??.... the airwaves couldn't cope!  Morsels of Buddha-like knowledge after every game..... "Yeah...yeah, Rog, but we..........................yeah, but..............we gotta go for a break now...... we'll only give you another 30 minutes and then you'll have to give us back the mike or we'll call the cops."

Pot Hale wrote:

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:Guns is still 100% muck savage.

Rog is in no hurry. He is still learning and one mistake ands it’s EOS all over. He would only come back if Schmidt asked him (which is possible but not sure joe would want to rock a steady ship). If anything the irfu should look to get rog involved in Connacht down the line

Now that would be fun to watch.   I presume the IRFU plan is to have one in every province.  Eventually.    

Having a guns in one province is enough for anyone

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:Guns is still 100% muck savage.

Rog is in no hurry. He is still learning and one mistake ands it’s EOS all over. He would only come back if Schmidt asked him (which is possible but not sure joe would want to rock a steady ship). If anything the irfu should look to get rog involved in Connacht down the line

Correct. From one bogger to another.

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:Guns is still 100% muck savage.

Rog is in no hurry. He is still learning and one mistake ands it’s EOS all over. He would only come back if Schmidt asked him (which is possible but not sure joe would want to rock a steady ship). If anything the irfu should look to get rog involved in Connacht down the line

Now that would be fun to watch.   I presume the IRFU plan is to have one in every province.  Eventually.    

Having a guns in one province is enough for anyone

Im spending a lot of time in Cork lately.

I’ve heard complaints of someone driving their new Massey Ferguson up and down Pana.

Nice tractor. I drove my neighbours one as a kid. Great craic.

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:I’ve heard complaints of someone driving their new Massey Ferguson up and down Pana.

Must have been ploughing the road before reseeding it with new grass.

Tractors are magical. I once drove down the road in one and then turned into a field

Hey Guns in relation to another thread where the discussion of nationality got some people exercised can I just say as a Corkonian I would like us to be completely independent from the rest of you (admittedly I do understand the rest of this island feels the same). Given that do we count as a nation or just some deluded people who speak with funny accents. A bit like our neighbours

You ahould annex Skibbereen

If Schmidt were to go then I would not be against Lancaster taking up the role. I think he has done wonders with Leinster and he seems to have learnt a lot since his departure from England team.

Its way too early to talk about ROG for Ireland, needs another few years for me.

Cullen has been the biggest surprise for me. Like with Foley at Munster, I thought it was too early for him but he has done an excellent job and could also easily lead the national team.

Yeah Id be happy to see Lancaster take it on. I'm sure Rog is a good coach but I think whoever gets the Ireland job should have some head coach experience. Lets see how O'Gara does as a head coach first. The great thing about Schmidt is he is involved right across the board in terms of management and coaching. Someone like Cullen or even Conor O'Shea may only be as good as their assistant coaches hard to tell.

Collapse2005 wrote:Tractors are magical. I once drove down the road in one and then turned into a field

I used to like them until I got run over by one - now I'm an ex tractor fan.

Collapse2005 wrote:Yeah Id be happy to see Lancaster take it on. I'm sure Rog is a good coach but I think whoever gets the Ireland job should have some head coach experience. Lets see how O'Gara does as a head coach first. The great thing about Schmidt is he is involved right across the board in terms of management and coaching. Someone like Cullen or even Conor O'Shea may only be as good as their assistant coaches hard to tell.

Maybe the IRFU should appoint both ROG and Humphreys as coaches, just like the old days.

Jesus that's not ideal.

Gatland has unfinished business in Ireland. Maybe another stint before he heads back to NZ? He could maybe fix the Leinster/Munster divide and get fans supporting Ireland rather than their clubs. Heck, he might even get Connaught onside if he picks their players.

Cyril wrote:Gatland has unfinished business in Ireland. Maybe another stint before he heads back to NZ? He could maybe fix the Leinster/Munster divide and get fans supporting Ireland rather than their clubs. Heck, he might even get Connaught onside if he picks their players.

Not sure where Connaught is?

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Collapse2005 wrote:You ahould annex Skibbereen

It would certainly increase our Olympic medal chances

Connaught is out West where the Corkie chavs go on their holidays. As for your Olympic chances, you all have to hang on to the skinny smackhead Nordies boxing for NI and UK. Like the US (and unlike their skills in othe international sports) you have All-Just Us events that the world doesn’t notice.

Love you Geen

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I think an imposter must have hacked poor auld Cyril's account. He ain't himself tonight.....

Looks like Easterbuy will be taking over the reigns. Watch this space.....

Who?

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:

Cyril wrote:Gatland has unfinished business in Ireland. Maybe another stint before he heads back to NZ? He could maybe fix the Leinster/Munster divide and get fans supporting Ireland rather than their clubs. Heck, he might even get Connaught onside if he picks their players.

Not sure where Connaught is?

Think its a street in London.

rodders wrote:Looks like Easterbuy will be taking over the reigns. Watch this space.....

You reckon Schmidt is going to announce his departure in the coming weeks?

Collapse2005 wrote:

rodders wrote:Looks like Easterbuy will be taking over the reigns. Watch this space.....

You reckon Schmidt is going to announce his departure in the coming weeks?

Yes unfortunately l do.

rodders wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

rodders wrote:Looks like Easterbuy will be taking over the reigns. Watch this space.....

You reckon Schmidt is going to announce his departure in the coming weeks?

Yes unfortunately l do.

There goes the Halcyon days of Rugby in Ireland.

Oh well, back to the muck, grey cement stadiums and pitch invasion ref lynchings that is the grand auld GAA. You get tired of pitch invasion ref lynchings after a while. Boring.

rodders wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

rodders wrote:Looks like Easterbuy will be taking over the reigns. Watch this space.....

You reckon Schmidt is going to announce his departure in the coming weeks?

Yes unfortunately l do.

Is that just your hunch or have you heard something on the grapevine?

Collapse2005 wrote:

rodders wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

rodders wrote:Looks like Easterbuy will be taking over the reigns. Watch this space.....

You reckon Schmidt is going to announce his departure in the coming weeks?

Yes unfortunately l do.

Is that just your hunch or have you heard something on the grapevine?

No its just how it came across from Joe's interview. hopefully I'm wrong.

rodders wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

rodders wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

rodders wrote:Looks like Easterbuy will be taking over the reigns. Watch this space.....

You reckon Schmidt is going to announce his departure in the coming weeks?

Yes unfortunately l do.

Is that just your hunch or have you heard something on the grapevine?

No its just how it came across from Joe's interview. hopefully I'm wrong.

Maybe you heard more of it than I did.  But to me he seemed the most calm I've heard him in a long time when career questions crop up... as if the decision, in consultation with his family, had been made a long time ago in truth and he was just enjoying his coaching more now without the pressure of.......................................

....................hmmm...................without the pressure of having to put off an inevitable move back to his homeland to have an inevitable stab at coaching the All Blacks.  That is to say, a man who has finally decided that he's going home to try for the Big One.

..... or

is it the serenity of realising his ambitions don't really head in that direction, that his family have settled in, that he values the more direct HELP he's giving the Irish system rather than just sustaining a purring beast that is the ABs (who let's face it, would still for perhaps another decade at least operate at the highest of levels even with one or two dud coaches)?  The AB system just doesn't rely on one Head coach...it's a machine.  The coach is virtually a figurehead.

Anyway, you could very well be right though, rodder.  But I'm hoping I detected a man finally at peace with himself and his current choices in life.  I pray!...

rodders wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

rodders wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

rodders wrote:Looks like Easterbuy will be taking over the reigns. Watch this space.....

You reckon Schmidt is going to announce his departure in the coming weeks?

Yes unfortunately l do.

Is that just your hunch or have you heard something on the grapevine?

No its just how it came across from Joe's interview. hopefully I'm wrong.

I fear you are right for two reasons.

Firstly he recently remarked on the Irish coaching team that no system is built around one person which sounded like he meant if he leaves life will go on

Secondly the fact that he is waiting until the Nov series keys games are over to make the announcement. The logic for this is presumably because the decision whatever it may be would probably be too much of a distraction going into these big games however, if his decision is to leave that would probably be a much bigger distraction for the players.

Whatever he decides Im fairly sure he has already made his mind up.

Collapse2005 wrote:
I fear you are right for two reasons.

Damn.

The Easterbuy thing is just a hunch. I always assumed that Farrell might be the man being groomed but the fact that Easterbuy took charge for the Italy squad and was seconded to Ulster for preseason makes me think he's on the fast track.

Even recent comment by Sexton suggested that the players are gearing up for the post Schmidt era.

An interesting thing came across in that interview, Joe seemed very satisfied with what he has achieved (the GS, 6N, test series in Australia, beating the ABs) ..... bar one thing - the lack of RWC success, that QF defeat in 2015 really bugs him it still.

I suspect he plans to dedicate everything to this over the next year and go out on it banking this team he's built has a great chance of doing well.

Yeah sounds about right plus Easterby coaching in Chicago is a big clue alright.

Interesting. If Schmidt is contemplating coming home its a big move for the family. Coaching wise Id see him joining the panel with Hansen staying on overseeing things until Schmidt has got at least a season looking at Super and Mitre10 rugby up close.

Fozzie is probably seen as the next in line within the current panel so there’d be a squeze on. Schmidt has a very hands on technique and that would go down well in the Wayne Smith type role, which I think we are missing. Hopefully Smith is dragged back in for the World cup now hes had a chance to view the side from outside the circle.

Id see Schmidt as head coach by next world cup, certainly the one after that. Thanks to Ireland and Leinster he has a long future in this game at the top, good for family and everyone.

Good to see something real coming the other way.

It hasn't happened yet but there is a good chance now

Yeah, should be a lot of movement of both players and coaches after World cup. Schmidt could stay with Ireland if they win the world cup, apply fir the Lions tour (SA?) and defend his 6N if they win it again. Ample reason to both stay and go if that happened. Leaving Ireland as World champs has an aura of class about it, in good hands kinda thing.

If Schmidt is in the market to move he will be offered two or three times what he is currently earning by the RFU to take the reins at England - scary prospect?

The Great Aukster wrote:If Schmidt is in the market to move he will be offered two or three times what he is currently earning by the RFU to take the reins at England - scary prospect?

Presumes though that all coaches are simply chasing money. Virtually every AB coach that has existed for the last ...10-20 years?... could have been paid way above what they earned or now earn by RFU.

If his decision is that he's going, I'd say he has already decided where to. Yeah, maybe that might be England.... if so it was a very hush hush steal. I hope the hell he stays. We'll even make him President of the Dalkey Coffee Morning Book Club Casual Millionaire Pink Cardigan Club, if that would swing it?

Isn't Cardigan a bit Welsh - would he be seen dead there?

Mike Catt to be the new attack coach. He's currently with Italy.

Not overly excited with that apointment

I guess they worked together for the 2011 RWC with England.

Aren’t all the former England coaching team now in Ireland? Lancaster at Leinster, Farrell Ireland, rowntree is going to Munster?

profitius wrote:Mike Catt to be the new attack coach. He's currently with Italy.

Italy in attack have been improving!

I'm on the fence with this one. Italy have looked good in patches so I'd lean towards being optimistic.

Italy have far more about them in attack since Catt arrived

Obviously, the IRFU have given up on the whole NZ coach love affair.

Now they’ve gone all English on us. Farrell, Easterby, Catt, Lancaster, Rowntree, McFarland, Wilkins... it’s a very English RFU coup.

Andy Friend better start looking over his shoulder...

At least after brexit if they aren’t any good we can just deport them all

Without a border they would just come back

Build it big and strong.

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:At least after brexit if they aren’t any good we can just deport them all

..and vice versa. The Return of the West Brits! Jolly times all round.

So Mike Catt is latest recruit to join Farrell's team. Any thoughts?