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World Player of the Year 2018 - UPDATED

Post by Collapse2005 on Mon 15 Oct 2018, 3:31 pm

First topic message reminder :

Nominees Announced:

Beauden Barrett
Jonathan Sexton
Malcolm Marx
Faf de Klerk
Reiko Ioane

https://www.balls.ie/rugby/johnny-sexton-award-400031

Surprised to see Barrett make the list but all others not really unexpected. Sexton's to lose?

Previous article:

Young Player of the Year Nominees:

https://www.world.rugby/news/374327
Jordan Larmour (Ireland)
APHIWE DYANTYI (SOUTH AFRICA)
KARL TU’INUKUAFE (NEW ZEALAND)


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Post by Taylorman on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 6:33 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Sorry I don't understand your point Taylor.

Mmm, no, I see you dont.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 6:34 pm

So what is your point?

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Post by Taylorman on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 7:29 pm

Retallick and Barrett, NZers, and Maitland, a kiwi playing for Scotland, and CJ Stander, a S African playing for Ireland have been nominated for the top try of the year award.

This just keeps getting better. Whistle

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Post by Collapse2005 on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 7:45 pm

Maitland and Stander just took the last pass for both of their tries. The best part of each came earlier on in the move. For maitlands try the pass from Russell and the run from Huw Jones was the remarkable part. Likewise for Standers try it was the ridiculous pass from Furlong that was key.

There is a world outside NZ Taylorman. Have you ever left the country?

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Post by ebop on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 7:51 pm

Taylorman wrote:Retallick and Barrett, NZers, and Maitland, a kiwi playing for Scotland, and CJ Stander, a S African playing for Ireland have been nominated for the top try of the year award.

This just keeps getting better. Whistle
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Pretty funny. In the past those teams would have had a local fumbling the final pass.
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Post by Taylorman on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 8:03 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Maitland and Stander just took the last pass for both of their tries. The best part of each came earlier on in the move. For maitlands try the pass from Russell and the run from Huw Jones was the remarkable part. Likewise for Standers try it was the ridiculous pass from Furlong that was key.

There is a world outside NZ Taylorman. Have you ever left the country?

Oh of course I expected that. Thing is, seems you need SHers to actually score the tries for you, because, well, your promising winger of the year ain't got any. Such a predictable answer you miss the fun in all this. You 'need' SH players to have success. (Dont see any Tongan schoolboys in our list either) laughing

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 8:06 pm

It's like grey ghost is back. Without the rugby knowledge.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 8:08 pm

Eh no Ireland doesnt need SHers to score our tries. Our top scorer this year and top try scorer of the 6 nations overall was Jacob Stockdale you total dope.

Larmour has mainly been a sub to date. Stockdale is the main try scoring winger.

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Post by Biltong on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 8:11 pm

Collapse, you really should stop calling people names. Last warning.
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Post by Collapse2005 on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 8:13 pm

Biltong wrote:Collapse, you really should stop calling people names. Last warning.

Its pretty much tit for tat but whatever.

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Post by Cyril on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 11:25 pm

Biltong, I’m no supporter of Guns, Collapse (or whatever his latest 606v2 account is) but it seems you only ever seem to moderate NH fans. Might be worth checking your remit?

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Post by Pot Hale on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 11:38 pm

Collapse. You should know that Tman can keep doing this for years. He’s a past master at it. Smile

You rise to the very smelly bait every single time. Do yourself a favor.
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Post by Cyril on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 11:53 pm

They’re as bad as each other though. Why don’t they just continue the argument by private message?

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Post by Pot Hale on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 12:00 am

Cyril wrote:They’re as bad as each other though. Why don’t they just continue the argument by private message?

They enjoy doing it in public. Smile
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Post by Cyril on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 12:39 am

True. This forum has had its day. Even the mods are making articles to encourage wumming and then taking sides. At least the 606 mods were incompetent but basically neutral.

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Post by Biltong on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 5:28 am

Cyril wrote:Biltong, I’m no supporter of Guns, Collapse (or whatever his latest 606v2 account is) but it seems you only ever seem to moderate NH fans. Might be worth checking your remit?

Well, to be fair I haven't been on this site for yonks.

The only person I "moderated" was Collapse for repeatedly call taylorman names.

Read the comments.
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Post by Biltong on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 5:37 am

Also, I opened that thread as a continuation of what was discussed on the thread "rugby championship" as it reached 1000 comments, which has always been the limit we go to.
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Post by Taylorman on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 7:19 am

Probably go for Barretts or Standers to win it, both being the one play. The others required several which could mean Scotlands if theyre looking for an all round team try.

Although it was a rare dummy and run at the end of a match for Retallick I dont think theyll go that one unless theyre looking for uniqueness as not many like that are scored.

All good tries. I thought barretts vs Oz last week was one of the slickest planned moves of the year.

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Post by SecretFly on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 9:55 am

Pot Hale wrote:
Cyril wrote:They’re as bad as each other though. Why don’t they just continue the argument by private message?

They enjoy doing it in public.  Smile

Oh that is salacious rumour mongering of the highest order!!!! mad

.....................More please.

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Post by SecretFly on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 10:02 am

Cyril wrote:Biltong, I’m no supporter of Guns, Collapse (or whatever his latest 606v2 account is) but it seems you only ever seem to moderate NH fans. Might be worth checking your remit?

Are you seriously suggesting or strongly hinting that World Mod of the Year will once again come from the SH?

Gotta say I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist - except for maybe believing that the Mafia paid off John Lennon to assassinate JFK and then spirited him away to the secret Nazi base on the dark side of the moon, and that his own killing was a Mosad falseflag operation to allow him to ghostwrite some smashing songs for their Eurovision entries without killing his own reputation.....

... but that award for Mods, and SH mods getting it every damn year....................................... it is fishy.

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Post by Biltong on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 10:12 am

SecretFly wrote:
Cyril wrote:Biltong, I’m no supporter of Guns, Collapse (or whatever his latest 606v2 account is) but it seems you only ever seem to moderate NH fans. Might be worth checking your remit?

Are you seriously suggesting or strongly hinting that World Mod of the Year will once again come from the SH?

Gotta say I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist - except for maybe believing that the Mafia paid off John Lennon to assassinate JFK and then spirited him away to the secret Nazi base on the dark side of the moon, and that his own killing was a Mosad falseflag operation to allow him to ghostwrite some smashing songs for their Eurovision entries without killing his own reputation.....

... but that award for Mods, and SH mods getting it every damn year....................................... it is fishy.

Fishy indeed.
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Post by Collapse2005 on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 10:50 am

Cyril wrote:Biltong, I’m no supporter of Guns, Collapse (or whatever his latest 606v2 account is) but it seems you only ever seem to moderate NH fans. Might be worth checking your remit?

Cyril you are aren't fooling anyone the only thing you are a bigger fan of is Irish rugby. You just cant bring yourself to admit it.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 10:53 am

I think Scotland's try was the most impressive from one end to the other it had pretty much everything. Ireland's move was the best pre-planned move but Scotland's was the best try.

I'm sure Cyril will agree with me.

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Post by Cyril on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 2:38 pm

Not seen the Irish try, but I I would imagine it was a choke tackle that collapsed over the line and was ‘touched down’ by Toner’s knee. About as attractive as a Leo Cullen lookalike competition.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 3:03 pm

Are you not an England fan? It was scored against England in Twickers to secure a grand slam. Are you sure you missed it?

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Post by Taylorman on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 6:56 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:I think Scotland's try was the most impressive from one end to the other it had pretty much everything. Ireland's move was the best pre-planned move but Scotland's was the best try.

I'm sure Cyril will agree with me.

Yep it could go that way for that reason. There were from memory three breakdowns and reloads so its one where more of the whole team were involved than others. An initial stunning break- they all had that from deep then fast turnover to maintain the momentum.

It just depends on what criteria they use this year. I would have Retallicks last but can see why certain criteria would have it first, one being that a lock can have that much runningvand skill in him near the end of what was a very busy 80 minutes for him anyway.

We get a lot of these types of tries in Super rugby and it wouldnt take long to find better ones there but test level is another thing again.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 4:02 pm

Sexton has made the shortlist as expected. No Furlong nor Murray a bit of a surprise.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 4:55 pm

I'm amazed Furlong isn't there.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 4:57 pm

#metoo

He has had a better year than Barrett and Faf.

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Post by SecretFly on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 5:05 pm

They're confused about what Furlong is. When they find out, he'll be added to next year's list

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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 5:18 pm

SecretFly wrote:They're confused about what Furlong is.  When they find out, he'll be added to next year's list

Well half the panel are from the SH so..

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Post by SecretFly on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 5:37 pm

"Is he a bone crunching forward or is he a battle tank back? We'd nominate him but we think he's being duplicitous."

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Post by aucklandlaurie on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 6:40 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:
SecretFly wrote:They're confused about what Furlong is.  When they find out, he'll be added to next year's list

Well half the panel are from the SH so..


That cant be right? Does a SH vote carry more weight than a NH vote?


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Post by SecretFly on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 6:44 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:
SecretFly wrote:They're confused about what Furlong is.  When they find out, he'll be added to next year's list

Well half the panel are from the SH so..


That cant be right?

He means you guys have the bigger half, which is quite scandalous to be honest.

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Post by Taylorman on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 6:54 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:#metoo

He has had a better year than Barrett and Faf.

Not at their best he hasnt which is why Barrett has won it twice already. A few missed goal kicks dont seem to matter.

Barretts had the best individual test in probably three years against oz. four tries, nearly five in a sublime performance.

Ioane with 11 tries in 8 tests keeps him in the number one wing spot ahead of Dyantyi and Stockdale, May.

Sexton would be there for consistency of performance. Might get it on that basis though Ioane and Marx, at test level might as well.

Retallick and Furlong probably the unlucky ones.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Fri 02 Nov 2018, 8:17 pm

Faf has been very good for sa collapse. Taylor unfortunately your comment holds no weight as you don't watch all the players. Hashtag worthless.

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Post by Taylorman on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 12:16 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:Faf has been very good for sa collapse.  Taylor unfortunately your comment holds no weight as you don't watch all the players. Hashtag worthless.

Faf has been good, kinda why hes on the list huh?

very astute 7.5.

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Post by Taylorman on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 1:09 am

Personally I think Retallicks the best player in rugby at the moment. A few less tests, as was the case last year means hes not in contention but as a lock the complete player for his position, and adds to it with punishing defence and around the field work via the biggest engine in rugby. And, rarely plays a poor test.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 7:00 am

Just my opinion. Talon I've seen him play so I can give it without looking foolish.

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Post by Taylorman on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 7:19 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:Just my opinion. Talon I've seen him play so I can give it without looking foolish.

Too late. laughing

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 7:23 am

Why?

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Post by Taylorman on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 7:36 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:Why?

You seem to be on a little crusade of one of you to make some meaningless boring point. Good luck though, I wish you well on your journey. Let us know how it goes when you get there huh?

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 7:51 am

Right you are Taylor. Good point again. My journey takes me to wales today where I'm somehow aimjg to not find out the england score before watching it tonight. Can't see me succeeding .

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 7:56 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:Faf has been very good for sa collapse.  Taylor unfortunately your comment holds no weight as you don't watch all the players. Hashtag worthless.

Yes Faf has been good alright I would have shortlisted him. However, he wasnt great v Argentina and his box kicking has been poor so cant see him winning.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 8:09 am

Between Faf & Marx for me, although surprised as anyone there's no Furlong.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 8:23 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Between Faf & Marx for me, although surprised as anyone there's no Furlong.

Marx missed the whole summer tour and had a bad game v Argentina. Id be surprused if he won.

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Post by Biltong on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 9:12 am

Well we have  now  established Faf and Marx won't make it

That leaves only three
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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 10:09 am

You said yourself that Faf didnt deserve a nomination. Marx why not but ahead of Furlong and Murray? 1 Irish nomination in an almost flawless year seems a bit light but not unexpected really.

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Post by Biltong on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 10:12 am

I never commented on any of the nominations. I leave that to the so called experts and pundits.

My opinion about Faf was on a totally different thread in regards to his grubber before every box kick
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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 03 Nov 2018, 10:17 am

If you were to choose 6 players who have stood out this year who would they be. Du Toit is one. Who are the others?

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