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Post by robopz on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 1:09 am

Here is the currently announced 2018-2019 Tour schedules for the PGA Tour, European Tour and Web.com Tour as best as I know them at this time.

UPDATES:
10/29/18 - Robo
11/20/18 - Added in PGA Champions and Select LPGA.  LPGA will be filled in when formally announced
12/7/18 - LPGA Schedule Added other minor edits...
1/3/2019 - Various Edits including Other Tours
1/15/19 - edits after 2019 TOUR Championship
2/8/2019 - PGA Tour after 2019 Tour Championship firming up...

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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 1:34 am

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Post by pedro on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 10:13 am

robo, OK

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Post by McLaren on Tue 30 Oct 2018, 12:04 pm

Thanks Robo. Bubbly
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Post by GPB on Wed 31 Oct 2018, 1:50 pm

I know next fall is your best guess but I see a couple anomalies.

Safeway and Napa are going to be two different events next year?

Vegas tournament right in the middle of the Asian Swing? (btwn Japan and HSBC)

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Post by robopz on Thu 08 Nov 2018, 1:14 pm

GPB wrote:I know next fall is your best guess but I see a couple anomalies.

Safeway and Napa are going to be two different events next year?

Vegas tournament right in the middle of the Asian Swing?  (btwn Japan and HSBC)
Yeah... I inadvertanly listed Napa instead of the expected NEW San Francisco event. The TBD beside the tournaments listed AFTER the next year's Tour Championship mean their schedule is To Be Determined... I don't know what order they will play... I have some reasonable guesses, but it's all dependent on if San Fran and Japan actually come on the schedule...

Graphic above has been UPDATED

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Post by robopz on Fri 07 Dec 2018, 11:17 am

12-7-2018 - LPGA Schedule added and other minor edits... SEE TOP POST

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Post by robopz on Thu 03 Jan 2019, 1:51 pm

1/3/19.... Various updates made to Tour schedules...

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Post by I'm never wrong on Thu 03 Jan 2019, 4:50 pm

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Post by robopz on Mon 14 Jan 2019, 7:27 pm

Minor edits made to PGA Tour schedule after 2019 TOUR Championship.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 14 Jan 2019, 9:00 pm

The demise of the Steph Curry event offers PGA Tour players two weeks in GB, Wentworth followed by Dunhill. Very likely I should think:

Wk 34: Tour Championship (only 30 in the field)
35: No event
36: No event
37: Greenbrier - which most players don't play anyway - probably because of the bloated bombast Justice
38: No event (Wentworth)
39: Safeway (Dunhill)

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Post by GPB on Tue 15 Jan 2019, 1:33 am

kwinigolfer wrote:
37: Greenbrier - which most players don't play anyway - probably because of the bloated bombast Justice  

Is he kin to Chubby Chandler?

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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 15 Jan 2019, 2:39 am

GPB wrote:
kwinigolfer wrote:
37: Greenbrier - which most players don't play anyway - probably because of the bloated bombast Justice  

Is he kin to Chubby Chandler?

They're about the same size . . . . . but imagine the Chubster is much the better golfer, Sunny Jim the wealthier (from scraping the tops off moun'ains).

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Post by robopz on Wed 16 Jan 2019, 1:00 am

kwinigolfer wrote:
GPB wrote:
kwinigolfer wrote:
37: Greenbrier - which most players don't play anyway - probably because of the bloated bombast Justice  

Is he kin to Chubby Chandler?

They're about the same size . . . . . but imagine the Chubster is much the better golfer, Sunny Jim the wealthier (from scraping the tops off moun'ains).
 Heaven forbid someone makes himself successful  {{{gasp}}}.

And Sanderson Farms moves from alternate event status to take its own free-standing spot in the place reserved for Steph Curry's event.  

When it's all said and done, schedule will be full every week after a 1 or 2 week break after the TOUR Championship. Ryder or Presidents Cup usually fills one week before Thanksgiving, Curry's event (in 2020) or something else will come on the schedule to take the other open spot. Then the tour will probably focus on getting another alternative event to play opposite the WGC.

Schedule better than above to reflect change

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Post by kwinigolfer on Wed 16 Jan 2019, 2:31 am

robo,
I see Justice epitomising Samuel Peabody and the depiction of him in the words of my favourite American troubador, John Prine. Scott Pruitt would be cheering though.

Presidents Cup much later this year. Very happy for Mississippi & Jackson; the Sanderson Farms people have built a very nice event, good to see them rewarded.

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Post by robopz on Wed 16 Jan 2019, 4:02 am

kwinigolfer wrote:robo,
I see Justice epitomising Samuel Peabody and the depiction of him in the words of my favourite American troubador, John Prine. Scott Pruitt would be cheering though.

Presidents Cup much later this year. Very happy for Mississippi & Jackson; the Sanderson Farms people have built a very nice event, good to see them rewarded.
IMO all that Justice talk is just meaningless BS... serves no purpose... and isn't fair to a guy who's built one helluva fine little Tour stop. I believe this was a golf board last time i checked, wasn't it?  Anyway... He deserves credit for what he's done for golf, NOT derision.

And as for the PGAT schedule in general... as I've said before, let's never forget golf Tours are BUSINESS... and a very COMPETITIVE business.   No way Monahan is going leave openings for players to freely go play on the ET. And the only way they accomplish that is making sure there's a PGAT event up against the ET every week so the PGAT can control it's player CER's (Conflicting Event Releases).

The way I'm seeing the fall 2019 schedules stacking up against each other now...

Wk35 - Sep-01 -  - PGAT OPEN WEEK  vs Omega Eur Masters
Wk36 - Sep-08 -  - PGAT OPEN WEEK  vs Porsche Eur Open
Wk37 - Sep-15 -  - Greenbrier vs KLM Open
Wk38 - Sep-22 -  - Sanderson Farms vs BMW PGA
Wk39 - Sep-29 -  - Safeway - Napa vs Dunhill Links
Wk40 - Oct-06 -  - Shriners Las Vegas vs Open de Espana
Wk41 - Oct-13 -  - Houston Open vs Italian Open
Wk42 - Oct-20 -  - ZOZO Chmp - Japan vs Open de France
Wk43 - Oct-27 -  - CJ Cup - Korea vs Portugal Masters
Wk44 - Nov-03 -  - WGC HSBC  - CoSanction
Wk45 - Nov-10 -  - PGAT OPEN WEEK vs Turkish Airlines Opn
Wk46 - Nov-17 -  - Mayakoba-MEX vs NedBank Challenge
Wk47 - Nov-24 -  - RSM Classic vs DP Dubai Tour C.

I believe the only dates not absolutely firm are Houston, Safeway and Greenbrier... could be some flip-flopping of those with each other, but those 3 look look to be about 95% on those 3 dates in some order...  Still a [slight] possibility of moving World Challenge before Thanksgiving too, but WC doesn't want to go head up against Dubai... but they may be willing to go opposite Turkey or Nedbank... and Mayakoba is NOT 100% guaranteed on the schedule.

In the future... Curry or other event will fill one of the PGAT Open Weeks... RC and PC will fill one other... leaving Labor Day week as the only off week between the Tour Championship and start of the new season...    

Last thing... about the Curry/Workday/Largadere/Desert Classic debacle...  Golfweek forecaddie reiterates some of the "connect the dots" thing I was referring to a few days back...  https://golfweek.com/2019/01/13/the-forecaddie-workday-ceos-late-requests-prompt-cancellation-of-new-steph-curry-event/

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Post by kwinigolfer on Wed 16 Jan 2019, 1:42 pm

robo,
My point regarding ET vs PGAT included all those who wouldn't be eligible. But, as you say, yesterday's welcome Jackson news closes the gap a little. And was meant to be applicable for 2019 only.

As for Justice (ironic name in his case), I would just think the Tour could learn from having rubbed shoulders with guys like Ginn, Stanford, Halbritter etc . . . . . . . . there'll be tears out of White Sulphur Springs before it's all over, but certainly thrilled at what has happened to the Greenbrier (almost went there for a brief honeymoon years - and years - ago), and the courses there.

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Post by robopz on Wed 16 Jan 2019, 3:30 pm

Kwini... Difference with Justice is his wealth isn't built on a fraud of non-existent funds (Stanford) or highly-leveraged real estate bubble (Ginn).  Justice has hundreds x the money needed to run this tournament sitting at a bank  And unlike a lot of title sponsors, Greenbrier's sponsorship is a direct benefit to the property. They probably profit off of it in the end (via increased green fees an occupancy rates) instead of just some lost leader marketing cost to sell lots.  Entirely different model than some real estate development.  Plus what development they do have, is on land they already owned (no debt required).

Bottom line: Justice has been a godsend to that Resort, the community and his state by taking his money and investing it in same. Win-win-win-win. How that's ever going to result in "tears" for anybody is beyond me, regardless if the tournament stays there long-term or not. The only tears would be when he's dead and gone. People doing the good he's done for that area don't come along every day

(And this is politics aside. I got no clue if he's a good Governor for the state or not, nor do I really care). I just don't understand the need to deride a guy like that, when it seems to me all he deserves is our respect and kudos.

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Post by robopz on Wed 16 Jan 2019, 6:31 pm

Houston confirmed to be getting the October 7-13, 2019 week they wanted.

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Post by robopz on Fri 08 Feb 2019, 11:55 pm

Schedule graphic in the ORIGINAL POST at TOP has been replaced with update.   Primarily the PGA Tour Schedule AFTER the 2019 Tour Championship is all but firmed up.  As of now... 2 weeks off after the Tour Championship and 1 open week after the Asian Swing.  

Schedule EXPECTATIONS:   PGA Tour will try to find a replacement alternate event for the WGC-HSBC-Champions as Sanderson Farms moves to it's own freestanding event...  And the open spot after the Asian Swing may or may not be filled. They need an extra week to play future Ryder or President's Cups before Thanksgiving.  

Also... Tour may not be anxious to fill the second week off after the Tour Championship. When the calendar shifts at the beginning of the year and/or around Thanksgiving, that week might be used with current events. AND the Steph Curry event is NOT dead... it's still probably a 75%'er to make the schedule in the fall of 2020. So that would use up one of those open spots...

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Post by GPB on Fri 15 Mar 2019, 8:27 pm

Been trying to figure out where they are going to shoehorn the Olympic event next year (Olympics are Fri Jul 24, 2020 through Sun Aug 9th)

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Post by NedB-H on Sat 30 Mar 2019, 7:51 pm

As the Masters qualification comes to a conclusion it’s occurred to me that the next major is now the PGA, and I have no idea when the qualification cutoffs are for that. They normally invite the top 100, at least, in the OWGR. But they also invite every PGA tour winner between last year’s tournament and this, which obviously is a nine month spell rather than a twelve month One this time. Anyone know what impact that will have on the field? My best guess is that the OWGR invites will run a little deeper.

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Post by I'm never wrong on Sat 30 Mar 2019, 9:00 pm

https://www.pga.com/events/pgachampionship/how-qualify-pga-championship

13. Completing the field
If necessary to complete the field, players beyond the top 70 will be added

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sat 30 Mar 2019, 9:01 pm

Ned,
This shows qualifying criteria for every Major & WGC. And Players.

https://www.pgatour.com/fantasy/major-qualifiers.html

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Post by I'm never wrong on Sat 30 Mar 2019, 9:02 pm

The Top 70 refers to players earning PGA Championship points throughout the season.

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Post by NedB-H on Sat 30 Mar 2019, 9:10 pm

Cheers guys

5th May is the OWGR cutoff then. And reserves filled up from PGA rankings not OWGR ones.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sat 30 Mar 2019, 9:14 pm

NedB-H wrote:Cheers guys

5th May is the OWGR cutoff then. And reserves filled up from PGA rankings not OWGR ones.

Ned, the number of "invites" from the owgr's is not finite, they sometimes go beyond 100 . . . . . but the Top 70 in PGA Championship pts is finite, and that is the criteria from which alternates are chosen, not the owgr.
That sounds clear as mud, but I'm sure you get the gist.

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Post by NedB-H on Sat 30 Mar 2019, 9:22 pm

So the initial field stretches down (potentially) past 100, but if anyone drops out after the set field date #71 gets a call up.

I think I’ve got it!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sat 30 Mar 2019, 10:57 pm

You've got it!

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Post by NedB-H on Mon 13 May 2019, 6:54 pm

After last year’s uncertainty early confirmation of a British Masters event on next year’s schedule, back in the northeast at Close House and set for Jul 30-Aug 2. Not sure if that is going to clash with the WGC in Memphis...

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 13 May 2019, 7:03 pm

Good for Lee Westwood, but also a shame no-one else stepped up.
Great date, too.

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Post by LadyPutt on Tue 14 May 2019, 10:48 am

NedB-H wrote:After last year’s uncertainty early confirmation of a British Masters event on next year’s schedule, back in the northeast at Close House and set for Jul 30-Aug 2. Not sure if that is going to clash with the WGC in Memphis...
My understanding is that it will clash with the Olympics, not sure how correct my source is. Shouldn’t have too much of an impact. I don’t understand why only English golfers have to host the British Masters. What about the Scots, Welsh and N Irish?
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Post by I'm never wrong on Tue 14 May 2019, 11:27 am

LadyPutt wrote:My understanding is that it will clash with the Olympics, not sure how correct my source is.
Confirmed by the Tokyo 2020 website.

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Post by wiretapper on Wed 15 May 2019, 2:43 pm

LadyPutt wrote:
NedB-H wrote:After last year’s uncertainty early confirmation of a British Masters event on next year’s schedule, back in the northeast at Close House and set for Jul 30-Aug 2. Not sure if that is going to clash with the WGC in Memphis...
My understanding is that it will clash with the Olympics, not sure how correct my source is. Shouldn’t have too much of an impact. I don’t understand why only English golfers have to host the British Masters. What about the Scots, Welsh and N Irish?

I think I read somewhere that as we have the Scottish Open and Dunhill Links the British Masters would be an England based tournament. I personally don't mind that (can't speak for the Welsh though), especially when you look at last week's attendance (18,000 on the Saturday clap) and compare it to supposedly bigger events in the "emerging market" regions.

When I was getting into golf you had (off the top of my head) the Epsom Match-play from St. Mellion, the PGA (Wentworth), British Masters (Woburn), English Open (Belfry), B&H Invitational (Fulford), European Open (Walton Heath), and Suntory World Match-play (Wentworth again) each year from England (as well as three of the Open rota courses). All well supported and all live on the Beeb.

I appreciate that golf has moved on and the sponsorship and other funds that emerging market events secure means that there will be less events round this way. Therefore you wont find me complaining about an event down south, especially when the appetite for it is clearly there OK

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Post by NedB-H on Wed 15 May 2019, 7:25 pm

LadyPutt wrote:
NedB-H wrote:After last year’s uncertainty early confirmation of a British Masters event on next year’s schedule, back in the northeast at Close House and set for Jul 30-Aug 2. Not sure if that is going to clash with the WGC in Memphis...
My understanding is that it will clash with the Olympics, not sure how correct my source is. Shouldn’t have too much of an impact. I don’t understand why only English golfers have to host the British Masters. What about the Scots, Welsh and N Irish?
Thanks for that LP. That’s a preferable clash to a WGC. In fact it might lead to a better representation from UK players than the previous slots.

I’ve wondered whether it will move outside of England too. Although wire’s point about the Scottish Open is fair, and the Irish Open ventures North of the border (and NI technically isn’t British anyway). But there’s some great courses in Wales I’d like to see host, Portcawl, Aberdovey, Nefyn, even Celtic Manor at a push I suppose.
I’ve seen a few whinges that no venues have been “Midlands” so far too, but I’m East Midlands based right mow and I’ve made the last two stagings....

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