My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Page 2 of 17 Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 9 ... 17  Next

Go down

My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by LondonTiger on Mon 05 Nov 2018, 3:39 pm

First topic message reminder :

Date: Saturday 10th November 2018
Time: 15:00
Location: Twickenham Stadium

Referee:       Jerome Garces (France)
Assistant 1:  Jaco Peyper (SA)
Assistant 2:  Marius Mitrea (Italy)
TMO:            Marius Jonker (SA)




Teams


England

[size=42]15 Elliot Daly (Wasps, 22 caps), 14 Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks, 40 caps), 13 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 14 caps), 12 Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors, 14 caps), 11 Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 38 caps), 10 Owen Farrell (Saracens, 62 caps) co-captain, 9 Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 78 caps), 1 Ben Moon (Exeter Chiefs, 1 cap), 2 Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints, 94 caps) co-captain, 3 Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 14 caps), 4 Maro Itoje (Saracens, 23 caps), 5 George Kruis (Saracens, 26 caps), 6 Brad Shields (Wasps, 3 caps), 7 Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 6 caps), 8 Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons, 5 caps).[/size]
[size=42]Finishers[/size]
[size=42]16 Jamie George (Saracens, 29 caps), 17 Alec Hepburn (Exeter Chiefs, 3 caps), 18 Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs, 12 caps), 19 Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, 7 caps), 20 Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 65 caps), 21 Danny Care (Harlequins, 82 caps), 22 George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 48 caps), 23 Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 27 caps).[/size]




New Zealand

1. Karl Tu'inukuafe (10)
2. Codie Taylor (39)
3. Owen Franks (104)
4. Samuel Whitelock (106)
5. Brodie Retallick (72)
6. Liam Squire (21) 
7. Ardie Savea (32)
8. Kieran Read - captain (115)
9. Aaron Smith (80)
10. Beauden Barrett (70)
11. Rieko Ioane (21)
12. Sonny Bill Williams (50)
13. Jack Goodhue (5)
14. Ben Smith (74)
15. Damian McKenzie (20)

16. Dane Coles (57)
17. Ofa Tuungafasi (23)
18. Nepo Laulala (14)
19. Scott Barrett (26)
20. Matt Todd (15)
21. TJ Perenara (52)
22. Richie Mo'unga (5)
23. Ryan Crotty (42


Last edited by LondonTiger on Tue 13 Nov 2018, 7:50 pm; edited 3 times in total (Reason for editing : No-one cares about the game any more. So let's leave this to the bickering tweenagers)

LondonTiger

Posts : 18384
Join date : 2011-02-10

Back to top Go down


Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Rugby Fan on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 4:09 am

Taylorman wrote:Does Tuilagi have form? because thats one the ABs will be looking to cover after 2012. Possibly the best back performance vs the ABs since then.
He showed up well in a recent game against Scarlets, where he played opposite Jon Davies, who is also coming back from injury. That has reignited hopes he might be in decent form.

On the other hand, he leaps out the defensive line a lot, which Farrell also does, so any competent attack will exploit that weakness.

Rugby Fan

Posts : 5133
Join date : 2012-09-14

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Taylorman on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 4:48 am

Rugby Fan wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Does Tuilagi have form? because thats one the ABs will be looking to cover after 2012. Possibly the best back performance vs the ABs since then.
He showed up well in a recent game against Scarlets, where he played opposite Jon Davies, who is also coming back from injury. That has reignited hopes he might be in decent form.

On the other hand, he leaps out the defensive line a lot, which Farrell also does, so any competent attack will exploit that weakness.

Yes hes talented but six years since he made that splash has been quiet with injury etc. Interesting if he plays.

Taylorman

Posts : 10064
Join date : 2011-02-02
Location : Wellington NZ

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by eirebilly on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 5:57 am

If England churn out the same performance as they did on Saturday against the Springboks then I expect a very long day for them.

Their indiscipline, especially Itoje's, has to be well under control against the AB's.
avatar
eirebilly

Posts : 23546
Join date : 2011-02-09
Age : 48
Location : Holland

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by lostinwales on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 7:19 am

Taylorman wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:
Tom Curry is out of England's autumn Test against New Zealand with what head coach Eddie Jones described as a "severe ankle injury".

Manu Tuilagi and Courtney Lawes are both expected to be available.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/46105540

Does Tuilagi have form? because thats one the ABs will be looking to cover after 2012. Possibly the best back performance vs the ABs since then.

Some. He had a great game taking the proverbial out of an international pair of centers playing for Scarlets the other day, but does seem all too fragile Definitely heading in the right direction but still feels like early days

lostinwales

Posts : 7849
Join date : 2011-06-09
Location : Out of Wales :)

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by No 7&1/2 on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 7:37 am

Another blow losing curry.
So this is decision time then. Underhill back into the squad I presume. His physicality would be mightily useful if he's fit enough.

No 7&1/2

Posts : 16783
Join date : 2012-10-20

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 11:50 am

Collapse2005 wrote:Id imagine even the Welsh will be supporting England on Saturday

Ha, good one!

Luckless Pedestrian

Posts : 22884
Join date : 2011-02-01
Age : 40
Location : Newport

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Collapse2005 on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 11:52 am

I thought Wales put the United in United Kingdom?

Ill be supporting England anyway. Id love to go to that game.

Collapse2005

Posts : 2069
Join date : 2017-08-24

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Poorfour on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 11:53 am

Underhill was a sub in the Premiership Rugby Cup game but not in the squad for the game before that - is he coming back from injury?

The other option among players he's used is probably Jack Clifford, who's been out for a long time with shoulder and knee trouble but played decently in Quins' last couple of games. But Eddie's always been willing to surprise us...

Poorfour

Posts : 3887
Join date : 2011-10-01

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by robbo277 on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 11:56 am

I did post this on the SA thread, but it got lost in Farrell chat.

I think Eddie will try to limit his changes. He needs a change in the back row with Curry out, and you'd think that would be Mercer to start and most likely Underhill onto the bench. The only other squad option would be Rhodes.

In the backs, Tuilagi will probably revert to the bench spot. We could also see Brown come in, potentially on the left wing to help the back 3 with their high ball concerns.

I think Eddie will go for something like:

Hepburn, Hartley, Sinckler, Itoje, Kruis, Shields, Wilson, Mercer, Youngs, Farrell, Brown, Te'o, Slade, May, Daly
George, Moon, Williams, Lawes, Underhill, Care, Ford, Tuilagi

robbo277

Posts : 3370
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 30
Location : Brighton, England

https://twitter.com/#!/robbo277

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Collapse2005 on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 12:09 pm

Is Jones not likely to revert back to Ford at 10?

Collapse2005

Posts : 2069
Join date : 2017-08-24

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by robbo277 on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 12:16 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Is Jones not likely to revert back to Ford at 10?

He could do, although I think Jones has a lot of time for Te'o and will give him a run of starts here, and I don't think he'll drop Farrell.

I have been wrong second guessing Jones plenty of times over the last 3 years though.

robbo277

Posts : 3370
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 30
Location : Brighton, England

https://twitter.com/#!/robbo277

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by propdavid_london on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 12:18 pm

Does anyone think that Hepburn getting hooked at half time suggest he had a poor game....and wont start against the ABs?

propdavid_london

Posts : 3148
Join date : 2011-06-01
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by LondonTiger on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 12:24 pm

propdavid_london wrote:Does anyone think that Hepburn getting hooked at half time suggest he had a poor game....and wont start against the ABs?
Hepburn carried the can for his and Sinckler's first half failings. I can definitely see Moon starting with Hepburn on the bench.

LondonTiger

Posts : 18384
Join date : 2011-02-10

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by LondonTiger on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 12:24 pm

robbo277 wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:Is Jones not likely to revert back to Ford at 10?

He could do, although I think Jones has a lot of time for Te'o and will give him a run of starts here, and I don't think he'll drop Farrell.

I have been wrong second guessing Jones plenty of times over the last 3 years though.
I do not believe he will start Ford this week.

LondonTiger

Posts : 18384
Join date : 2011-02-10

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by No 7&1/2 on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 12:35 pm

Props failings?

No 7&1/2

Posts : 16783
Join date : 2012-10-20

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Poorfour on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 12:50 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if he started Ford this week. He's not beyond starting Farrell last week in (correct) anticipation of having a very direct, physical game, but holding Ford back so that there's longer to work on a more attacking gameplan for the All Blacks.

Poorfour

Posts : 3887
Join date : 2011-10-01

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Taylorman on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 6:36 pm

Gotta have those notes Eddie...

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108408264/england-coach-eddie-jones-taps-into-his-lions-stars-for-secrets-to-beating-all-blacks


Taylorman

Posts : 10064
Join date : 2011-02-02
Location : Wellington NZ

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Rugby Fan on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 6:58 pm

Borthwick coy about Underhill coming in as a straight replacement for Curry.

A lot of pundits want to see Underhill at 7, Wilson at 6 and Mercer at 8.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Wilson Shields and Mercer. Also, if Lawes is fit, then Jones will have the temptation again of playing either him or Itoje at 6.

Rugby Fan

Posts : 5133
Join date : 2012-09-14

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Taylorman on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 7:09 pm

Didnt know this...

Cmon England, dont spoil the party...

‘A world record is in the offing for the All Blacks in their test match against England at Twickenham on Sunday (NZ time).

Such has been their constantly threatening strikes this year, New Zealand are on the cusp of creating a new mark, 13, for the most consecutive test matches in which a team has scored four or more tries.‘

Taylorman

Posts : 10064
Join date : 2011-02-02
Location : Wellington NZ

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Poorfour on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 7:13 pm

"Coach asks players what tactics were effective against next opponents the last time they played them scandal"

Come on, Taylor man, it's hardly a daft thing to do

Poorfour

Posts : 3887
Join date : 2011-10-01

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Collapse2005 on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 7:15 pm

Scotland were the last side NZ failed to get 4 tries against in the 17-22 game last November NZ almost lost.

and before that it was the Lions and Ireland in Dublin in 2016.

Easy peasy.


Last edited by Collapse2005 on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 7:34 pm; edited 1 time in total

Collapse2005

Posts : 2069
Join date : 2017-08-24

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Taylorman on Tue 06 Nov 2018, 7:30 pm

Yes a couple of hiccups. Last record equal with japan and a couple of others the ABs equalled at 12, way way back in 2016. Dont think we’ll see another tier one side doing that for some time

Taylorman

Posts : 10064
Join date : 2011-02-02
Location : Wellington NZ

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by TightHEAD on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 8:32 am

I don't think this is the best NZ team that has travelled to Britain, in fact I'd say they are not even in the top 10, they are beatable and they do leak tries.
avatar
TightHEAD

Posts : 3787
Join date : 2014-09-25
Location : USK - TMO in training.

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by munkian on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 9:07 am

Taylorman wrote:Gotta have those notes Eddie...

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108408264/england-coach-eddie-jones-taps-into-his-lions-stars-for-secrets-to-beating-all-blacks


I don't think he's allowed to pick Murray, Faletau, JD2 and SOB is he ?
avatar
munkian

Posts : 8204
Join date : 2011-04-01
Age : 37
Location : Bristol/The Port

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by robbo277 on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 10:02 am

Any news on who's been cut from the squad? I think we were down to 25 by this time last week.

robbo277

Posts : 3370
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 30
Location : Brighton, England

https://twitter.com/#!/robbo277

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by LondonTiger on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 10:08 am

robbo277 wrote:Any news on who's been cut from the squad? I think we were down to 25 by this time last week.

They did it on Tuesday last week, but no news yet.

LondonTiger

Posts : 18384
Join date : 2011-02-10

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by LondonTiger on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 10:10 am

Aha I lied:

England’s 25-man squad to face New Zealand

Forwards: Charlie Ewels, Jamie George, Dylan Hartley, Alec Hepburn, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Courtney Lawes, Zach Mercer, Ben Moon, Brad Shields, Kyle Sinckler, San Underhill, Harry Williams, Mark Wilson.


Backs: Chris Ashton, Danny Care, Elliot Daly, Owen Farrell, George Ford, Jonny May, Jack Nowell, Henry Slade, Ben Te’o, Manu Tuilagi, Ben Youngs.

LondonTiger

Posts : 18384
Join date : 2011-02-10

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by BamBam on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 10:45 am

No Curry then

BamBam

Posts : 14396
Join date : 2011-03-17
Age : 29

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by LondonTiger on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 10:58 am

BamBam wrote:No Curry then
He has been ruled out for quite some time after surgery on his ankle.

LondonTiger

Posts : 18384
Join date : 2011-02-10

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by BamBam on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 11:04 am

Oh, clearly not paying enough attention

BamBam

Posts : 14396
Join date : 2011-03-17
Age : 29

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by LondonTiger on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 11:11 am

BamBam wrote:Oh, clearly not paying enough attention
It slipped out in an interview with Borthwick, so most would have fallen asleep.

LondonTiger

Posts : 18384
Join date : 2011-02-10

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by SecretFly on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 11:31 am

munkian wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Gotta have those notes Eddie...

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/108408264/england-coach-eddie-jones-taps-into-his-lions-stars-for-secrets-to-beating-all-blacks


I don't think he's allowed to pick Murray, Faletau, JD2 and SOB is he ?

I hate this claptrap that comes out to keep the pre-game entertainment cooking.

Is Eddie an International coach?  Does he have a big team behind him stuffed with analyists, and metre checkers and move breakdowners?  His team will have been pouring over all relevant games during the last few years to work out opposition team strategies, strengths, weaknesses....

but nope............................. he needs a secret dossier compiled by Lions players to find out how it's really done in practice.

What Trumponian/Putin/Ruskies-are-coming crap.  

Every game will be different; different personnel, different weather, different refs, different set plays (some seen before some maybe not seen before).  But that player dossier................... if'n Eddie follows that secret juicy stuff, the game is in the bag.  

I got one for him that I heard from a specific Irish player that I won't mention.  The Lions Mascot has to be placed on the Captain's Changing Room bench at 45 degrees to the pitch - longitudinally - head to the wall.

SecretFly

Posts : 28741
Join date : 2011-12-12

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by SecretFly on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 11:32 am

LondonTiger wrote:
BamBam wrote:Oh, clearly not paying enough attention
It slipped out in an interview with Borthwick, so most would have fallen asleep.
laughing

SecretFly

Posts : 28741
Join date : 2011-12-12

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by eirebilly on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 12:33 pm

I have always found that Farrell works better at 10 with Care at 9 rather than Youngs at 9. Care and Farrell just seem to click better and I do feel Care is a far more dynamic 9 than Youngs and that is what Farrell needs.

Could just be me though.
avatar
eirebilly

Posts : 23546
Join date : 2011-02-09
Age : 48
Location : Holland

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by lostinwales on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 12:41 pm

eirebilly wrote:I have always found that Farrell works better at 10 with Care at 9 rather than Youngs at 9. Care and Farrell just seem to click better and I do feel Care is a far more dynamic 9 than Youngs and that is what Farrell needs.

Could just be me though.

Care /Farrell combo has worked really well, when Care was doing much more of the french style no.9 creative stuff. That was a few years ago though and I am not sure how good Care's form is at the moment.

lostinwales

Posts : 7849
Join date : 2011-06-09
Location : Out of Wales :)

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by LondonTiger on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 1:02 pm

Farrell works well with Wigglesworth who is less dynamic than any... well less dynamic than my gran, and she has been dead 7 years now.

LondonTiger

Posts : 18384
Join date : 2011-02-10

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Sharkey06 on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 1:37 pm

I think the point with Wigglesworth is that he is the best box kicker in the English game, which allows his team to go forward and get on the front foot. When the ball is turned over Farrell looks a much better running threat than he does from simple first phase ball. Plus we probably see Farrell and Wigglesworth together for Saracens when they steamroller most teams.

The reason Youngs starts and Care "finishes" is that you need a good box kick from the start of a game when it is tight and structured. Care isn't the best, as he over kicks too often - but he is a better snipping 9 than Youngs, so is best suited to the last 20 minutes of a game when it generally loosens up. A good box kick at international level is a key tactic for Northern hemisphere teams.

Sharkey06

Posts : 26
Join date : 2018-07-06

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by eirebilly on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 1:48 pm

Point taken about the box kicking ability from Youngs over that of Care but I do feel that England look more dangerous in attack with Care and Farrell at 9 and 10.

If Youngs is to start then I think you need Ford at 10 and Farrell at 12 as I believe Farrell works better outside a play maker rather than being the play maker but that approach weakens England's midfield defence for me.
avatar
eirebilly

Posts : 23546
Join date : 2011-02-09
Age : 48
Location : Holland

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Collapse2005 on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 1:59 pm

Sharkey06 wrote:I think the point with Wigglesworth is that he is the best box kicker in the English game, which allows his team to go forward and get on the front foot.  When the ball is turned over Farrell looks a much better running threat than he does from simple first phase ball.  Plus we probably see Farrell and Wigglesworth together for Saracens when they steamroller most teams.

The reason Youngs starts and Care "finishes" is that you need a good box kick from the start of a game when it is tight and structured.  Care isn't  the best, as he over kicks too often - but he is a better snipping 9 than Youngs, so is best suited to the last 20 minutes of a game when it generally loosens up.  A good box kick at international level is a key tactic for Northern hemisphere teams.

Its a key tactic for SA,NZ and Argentina too.

Collapse2005

Posts : 2069
Join date : 2017-08-24

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by LondonTiger on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 3:14 pm

Not a regular reader of the Telegraph so unsure who all but the first two of these are, but suggested teams from the writers in the Telegraph:




Mick Cleary wrote:15. Elliot Daly, 14. Jack Nowell, 13. Henry Slade, 12. Ben Te'o, 11. Jonny May, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Kyle Sinckler, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Brad Shields, 7. Sam Underhill, 8. Mark Wilson
Underhill for Curry and Moon for Hepburn


Gavin Mair wrote:15. Elliot Daly, 14. Jack Nowell, 13. Henry Slade, 12. Ben Te'o, 11. Jonny May, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Harry Williams, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Brad Shields, 7. Mark Wilson, 8. Zach Mercer
Mercer for Curry and switching both props.


Charlie Morgan wrote:15. Elliot Daly, 14. Chris Ashton, 13. Henry Slade, 12. Ben Te'o, 11. Jonny May, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Kyle Sinckler, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Mark Wilson, 7. Sam Underhill, 8. Zach Mercer
Ashton for Nowell, Underhill for Curry, Mercer fopr Shields and Moon for Hepburn 


Ben Coles wrote:15. Elliot Daly, 14. Chris Ashton, 13. Henry Slade, 12. Ben Te'o, 11. Jack Nowell, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Harry Williams, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Brad Shields, 7. Sam Underhill, 8. Mark Wilson
Ashton for May, switching both props, Underhill for Curry


Giles Mole wrote:15. Chris Ashton, 14. Jack Nowell, 13. Henry Slade, 12. Manu Tuilagi, 11. Jonny May, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Kyle Sinckler, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Brad Shields, 7. Mark Wilson, 8. Zach Mercer
Ashton for Daly, Manu for Te'o, Moon for Hepburn and Mercer for Curry


Julien Bennett wrote:15. Elliot Daly, 14. Chris Ashton, 13. Henry Slade, 12. Ben Te'o, 11. Jonny May, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Danny Care; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Jamie George, 3. Kyle Sinckler, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Brad Shields, 7. Mark Wilson, 8. Zach Mercer
Ashton for Nowell, Care for Youngs, Moon for Hepburn, George for Hartley, Mercer for Curry



Kate Rowan wrote:15. Elliot Daly, 14. Jack Nowell, 13. Manu Tuilagi, 12. Ben Te'o, 11. Jonny May, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Kyle Sinckler, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Brad Shields, 7. Sam Underhill, 8. Mark Wilson

Manu for Slade, Moon for Hepburn, Underhill for Curry

LondonTiger

Posts : 18384
Join date : 2011-02-10

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Rugby Fan on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 3:19 pm

Guys, here's how it will go down (assuming some players make a miraculous recovery)


Rugby Fan

Posts : 5133
Join date : 2012-09-14

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Collapse2005 on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 3:49 pm

Why is Aaron Smith taking kick offs in that video?

Collapse2005

Posts : 2069
Join date : 2017-08-24

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by robbo277 on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 3:55 pm

LondonTiger wrote:Aha I lied:

England’s 25-man squad to face New Zealand

Forwards: Charlie Ewels, Jamie George, Dylan Hartley, Alec Hepburn, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Courtney Lawes, Zach Mercer, Ben Moon, Brad Shields, Kyle Sinckler, San Underhill, Harry Williams, Mark Wilson.


Backs: Chris Ashton, Danny Care, Elliot Daly, Owen Farrell, George Ford, Jonny May, Jack Nowell, Henry Slade, Ben Te’o, Manu Tuilagi, Ben Youngs.

Thanks for providing. I had a quick look but couldn't find anything.

So Curry out as we knew, Underhill back in and Lawes and Tuilagi coming back from their minor injuries.

I've heard Ashton for Nowell touted. Tuilagi will probably come back onto the bench, so I think one of those two wingers will miss out.

In the forwards, Lawes will probably come back in for Ewels assuming he is fit. The questions then relate to which props and back rows Jones decides to start.

It looks like a relatively settled side. Hopefully the team are stronger for the 80 minutes they had together last week, they'll need to be.

robbo277

Posts : 3370
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 30
Location : Brighton, England

https://twitter.com/#!/robbo277

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Rugby Fan on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 3:56 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Why is Aaron Smith taking kick offs in that video?
Clearly, New Zealand will be forced into a series of basic errors Very Happy

Rugby Fan

Posts : 5133
Join date : 2012-09-14

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by munkian on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 4:57 pm

Will NZ be recovering from the norovirus this time ?
avatar
munkian

Posts : 8204
Join date : 2011-04-01
Age : 37
Location : Bristol/The Port

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Taylorman on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 6:03 pm

munkian wrote:Will NZ be recovering from the norovirus this time ?

Yeah, but Moody out doesnt help. Will still be an easy win though. Englands pack got mauled vs the Boks. Theyll be targeted here big time, and unlike the boks, the ABs wont forget to score while theyre doing it.

Taylorman

Posts : 10064
Join date : 2011-02-02
Location : Wellington NZ

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by ebop on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 7:23 pm

Just saw Moody is out, ripped eyelid. Guy has had some bad luck with injuries this year.
avatar
ebop

Posts : 4499
Join date : 2011-10-25

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by nathan on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 7:38 pm

LondonTiger wrote:Not a regular reader of the Telegraph so unsure who all but the first two of these are, but suggested teams from the writers in the Telegraph:




Mick Cleary wrote:15. Elliot Daly, 14. Jack Nowell, 13. Henry Slade, 12. Ben Te'o, 11. Jonny May, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Kyle Sinckler, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Brad Shields, 7. Sam Underhill, 8. Mark Wilson
Underhill for Curry and Moon for Hepburn


Gavin Mair wrote:15. Elliot Daly, 14. Jack Nowell, 13. Henry Slade, 12. Ben Te'o, 11. Jonny May, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Harry Williams, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Brad Shields, 7. Mark Wilson, 8. Zach Mercer
Mercer for Curry and switching both props.


Charlie Morgan wrote:15. Elliot Daly, 14. Chris Ashton, 13. Henry Slade, 12. Ben Te'o, 11. Jonny May, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Kyle Sinckler, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Mark Wilson, 7. Sam Underhill, 8. Zach Mercer
Ashton for Nowell, Underhill for Curry, Mercer fopr Shields and Moon for Hepburn 


Ben Coles wrote:15. Elliot Daly, 14. Chris Ashton, 13. Henry Slade, 12. Ben Te'o, 11. Jack Nowell, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Harry Williams, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Brad Shields, 7. Sam Underhill, 8. Mark Wilson
Ashton for May, switching both props, Underhill for Curry


Giles Mole wrote:15. Chris Ashton, 14. Jack Nowell, 13. Henry Slade, 12. Manu Tuilagi, 11. Jonny May, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Kyle Sinckler, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Brad Shields, 7. Mark Wilson, 8. Zach Mercer
Ashton for Daly, Manu for Te'o, Moon for Hepburn and Mercer for Curry


Julien Bennett wrote:15. Elliot Daly, 14. Chris Ashton, 13. Henry Slade, 12. Ben Te'o, 11. Jonny May, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Danny Care; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Jamie George, 3. Kyle Sinckler, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Brad Shields, 7. Mark Wilson, 8. Zach Mercer
Ashton for Nowell, Care for Youngs, Moon for Hepburn, George for Hartley, Mercer for Curry



Kate Rowan wrote:15. Elliot Daly, 14. Jack Nowell, 13. Manu Tuilagi, 12. Ben Te'o, 11. Jonny May, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Ben Moon, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Kyle Sinckler, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Brad Shields, 7. Sam Underhill, 8. Mark Wilson

Manu for Slade, Moon for Hepburn, Underhill for Curry

Am i the only one that thinks Ben Coles choice of replacing May is crazy? i would understand if it was Ashton in for Nowell but May have constantly been one of englands best performers.

nathan

Posts : 10844
Join date : 2011-06-14
Location : Leicestershire

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Taylorman on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 8:28 pm

ebop wrote:Just saw Moody is out, ripped eyelid. Guy has had some bad luck with injuries this year.

Yeah only good thing from that is he gets more rest and can focus on next years World cup. he needs to be the best loosehead at that tournament. Brings in Karl T I guess, the rags to riches story of 2018. Uncontracted start of the year, shortlisted as most World rugbys most promising within ten months.

Not too shabby...

Taylorman

Posts : 10064
Join date : 2011-02-02
Location : Wellington NZ

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by BamBam on Wed 07 Nov 2018, 8:37 pm

A ripped eyelid you say? vomit

BamBam

Posts : 14396
Join date : 2011-03-17
Age : 29

Back to top Go down

Re: My Dad's bigger than your Dad

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 2 of 17 Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 9 ... 17  Next

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum