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Post by Afro on Sat 10 Nov 2018, 11:49 am

Welcome to the FIFA Challenge League




Game uses FIFA 19 version as at 30/10/2018

Week 6:

Grimsby Town 3-0 Colchester
Crawley Town 3-1 Crewe Alexandra
Cambridge Utd 3-1 Cheltenham Town
Morecambe 0-1 Lincoln City
Forest Green 4-2 Macclesfield
Carlisle United v Bury
MK Dons v Exeter City
Mansfield Town 0-1 Newport County



Links

https://www.twitch.tv/hero606v2

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rzMxThEbVCIiOq_gKOmMqH7WgcsIpYxleuPOWIzg-4Q/edit?usp=sharing

Team_________Manager
Bury_________$ka
Cambridge Utd_________Dolph
Carlisle United_________Fluxy
Cheltenham Town_________Twist
Colchester_________Azzy
Crawley Town_________Marky
Crewe Alexandra_________Nads
Exeter City_________Trebs
Forest Green_________TAB
Grimsby Town_________Fernando
Lincoln City_________Bam
Macclesfield_________Hero
Mansfield Town_________Rof
MK Dons_________Olly
Morecambe_________Afro
Newport County_________Sodhat



Matches_________Transfers_________Other
Fixtures_________Lawyers_________Rules
Table_________Foreigns_________Press Conferences
Injuries_________Releases_________
Tactics_________Confirmation_________
Results__________________
Cards__________________


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Post by $ka on Sat 10 Nov 2018, 12:28 pm

Why the new homepage?

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Post by Hero on Sat 10 Nov 2018, 12:32 pm

It has a cap of 20 pages on here before a new one has to be added unfortunately.

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Post by $ka on Sat 10 Nov 2018, 12:42 pm

Makes sense. Can I add in my tactics bonus for this week? There's a player I would like to sign right away.

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Post by Azzy on Sat 10 Nov 2018, 1:28 pm

$ka wrote:Makes sense. Can I add in my tactics bonus for this week? There's a player I would like to sign right away.
I don't think that's particularly fair, as not everyone has had their game simmed yet.

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Post by BamBam on Sat 10 Nov 2018, 1:31 pm

Bonuses should be added when all games are done and Hero confirms who gets them

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Post by Renege on Sat 10 Nov 2018, 2:37 pm

Thought they'd be as soon as you'd done tactics, would've been a good reason to do them early

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Post by $ka on Sat 10 Nov 2018, 3:12 pm

Was my thinking also. Managed to sign the player I was after anyway, and I've finally made a proper shortlist of my short-term targets before signing a bunch of 17-21 year olds in the hope they'll be my future 11.

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Post by Afro on Sat 10 Nov 2018, 3:30 pm

I’m open to them being applied earlier, but I think the earliest it could be is Friday. Then you are not buying players with it that could in theory be in your starting XI that week.
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Post by BamBam on Sat 10 Nov 2018, 3:58 pm

It's a bonus for getting them in before the deadline, not for doing them

Shouldn't be added before the tactics deadline really

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Post by Fernando on Sat 10 Nov 2018, 10:22 pm

I don't get the point of the friday deadline considering most games are usually done over the weekend anyway.

Also don't get why we get money for answering questions it's very odd

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Post by $ka on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 12:20 am

There was a very weird goal celebration in that most recent game. Very weird indeed...

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 12:44 am

I add mine to my budget for admin reasons as I generally do my transfers before so can’t use it anyway

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Post by Renege on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 9:08 am

I don’t get it, if you submit tactics then sign someone that player can’t be in your tactics that week as you’ve already submitted!

Doesn’t really make a difference to me though just don’t see the issue

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 9:51 am

I would guess, theoretically, if you were to be able to sign someone this week when it shouldn’t be something you can do that gives you an advantage to someone who might have been signing them next week. It’s unlikely, I guess, but the Tuesday signing shootout is the rule

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Post by Renege on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 9:56 am

But surely with the two signing rule, if you only sign one player. Comes to getting the bonus. You can just sign second player on the Saturday/Sunday now. Which is an advantage on the next Tuesday the way you’re looking at it but it’s also a disadvantage on the previous Tuesday when you could’ve signed two players

I don’t see the difference or how there could be any advantage.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 10:52 am

But if you haven’t waited and people following it have waited, you’ve gained an advantage, haven’t you? Even in that system, if you do it beforehand, assuming you have it, someone else hasn’t assumed and they’re behind?

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 10:54 am

I don’t think it’s high on the crimes here! Or that’ll make a difference to anything either.

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Post by Hero on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 11:44 am

I have no issue at all if people want to change it to getting the cash when tactics handed in. Agree it encourages people to get them in earlier.

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Post by BamBam on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 11:47 am

From a budget tracking point of view it's easier for me to add them all in 1 go rather than wondering why someone has spent more than they have because they've added a tactics bonus and I didn't know

Happy to go with the majority view

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Post by Afro on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 11:57 am

I don’t mind if it is earlier than we do at the moment, but I think it needs to wait until after squad cut off at the earliest.

In theory you could play anyone in their squad up to the end of Thursday. Whilst you will know you have done your tactics and not be playing the new signing, your opponent won’t know you have submitted and might think they can play, doing tactics based on that.

At one point we did change the lawyers week to Friday to Thursday, and then it fell back to Tuesday to Monday. Could change it again? Would tie in with tactics.
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Post by Afro on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 12:15 pm

Also, as there were no objections, I am going to apply the end of season approach posted earlier in the week.

I will post a separate page that will show the team rankings, and the respective bonuses for each based on finishing position.

Bam - nothing urgent, but could you have a look at putting in a calculation to your file of the average player value in the league that updates automatically through the season.
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Post by Renege on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 2:15 pm

Caught the end of my game live there, class to see it on fifa, beautiful shot to goal ratio Laugh

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Post by Afro on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 2:25 pm

Hope the newbies are all enjoying the FIFA approach. It does have some limitations, but we feel it really brings another level to the fake
Management game and has definitely breathed new life into the v2 leagues
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Post by $ka on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 2:30 pm

Definitely enjoyed the first game - not just because I won handily but because it allowed me to see the weak spots of my team straight away. Plus, the weekday games allow me to waste a little bit more time at work...

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Post by Afro on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 2:30 pm

$ka wrote:Definitely enjoyed the first game - not just because I won handily but because it allowed me to see the weak spots of my team straight away. Plus, the weekday games allow me to waste a little bit more time at work...

Everyone’s a winner with that one!
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Post by $ka on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 2:47 pm

Well, that was a very dull 2nd half.

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Post by Hero on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 2:52 pm

Probably the dullest game so far!

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Post by $ka on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 2:53 pm

I blame that tactics guide I used. My team played nothing like that guide suggested it would.

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Post by Renege on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 3:10 pm

My game was dull, thought it was lucky to survive the first 20 mins or so without conceding. Lucky to get the win over Nadz therre

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Post by Hero on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 3:24 pm

Still waiting on Sodhats tactics for the final game

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Post by TwisT on Sun 11 Nov 2018, 8:30 pm

I'd like it to be played latest Monday night if possible, even if using his last week tactics. Reason being is how my team plays will dictate what foreign I go for on Tuesday.

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Post by Afro on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 8:25 am

TwisT wrote:I'd like it to be played latest Monday night if possible, even if using his last week tactics. Reason being is how my team plays will dictate what foreign I go for on Tuesday.

Based on Soddy not being online for over a week, I think that might be the best thing to do
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Post by Afro on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 9:25 am

I have updated results, table, top scorers and assists as it stands today. Will update again when the final game is played
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Post by Marky on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 9:32 am

1 MK Dons
2 Lincoln City
3 Mansfield Town
4 Bury
5 Exeter City
6 Grimsby Town
7 Forest Green
8 Crawley Town
9 Cheltenham Town
10 Carlisle United
11 Morecambe
12 Crewe Alexandra
13 Cambridge Utd
14 Colchester
15 Newport County
16 Macclesfield

Interesting to see that this is where we are expected to finish, good targets for everyone really.

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Post by BamBam on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 9:35 am

Doh Erm

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Post by TwisT on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 9:45 am

Marky wrote:1 MK Dons
2 Lincoln City
3 Mansfield Town
4 Bury
5 Exeter City
6 Grimsby Town
7 Forest Green
8 Crawley Town
9 Cheltenham Town
10 Carlisle United
11 Morecambe
12 Crewe Alexandra
13 Cambridge Utd
14 Colchester
15 Newport County
16 Macclesfield

Interesting to see that this is where we are expected to finish, good targets for everyone really.

Keep this to hand Marky. Maybe on main page.

I know we were trying to come up with prize money ways but maybe using this could be helpful? You get prize money on whether or not you finish higher than where you should?

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Post by Marky on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 9:51 am

TwisT wrote:
Marky wrote:1 MK Dons
2 Lincoln City
3 Mansfield Town
4 Bury
5 Exeter City
6 Grimsby Town
7 Forest Green
8 Crawley Town
9 Cheltenham Town
10 Carlisle United
11 Morecambe
12 Crewe Alexandra
13 Cambridge Utd
14 Colchester
15 Newport County
16 Macclesfield

Interesting to see that this is where we are expected to finish, good targets for everyone really.

Keep this to hand Marky. Maybe on main page.

I know we were trying to come up with prize money ways but maybe using this could be helpful? You get prize money on whether or not you finish higher than where you should?

It's already on Afro's bonuses page

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 9:54 am

You sure that’s right on Colchester? Their whole first XI is consistently 63/64 and up

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Post by Marky on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 10:06 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:You sure that’s right on Colchester? Their whole first XI is consistently 63/64 and up

I thought that but it is based on the whole squad.

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Post by Afro on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 10:08 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:You sure that’s right on Colchester? Their whole first XI is consistently 63/64 and up

It is based on TM value.

The rationale behind that is that there is going to be a lot of buying and selling, and all teams are going to largely move on from their starting squad.

The speed at which you can do this is determined by the money you are getting in, which is in turn determined by the value of your squad. Colchester had one of the lower TM values.

Then if teams have identicial TM values, I have used their FIFA ratings as a secondary ranking
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Post by Afro on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 10:08 am

Name_________OVR_________TM Value (£m) _________
MK Dons655.4
Lincoln City644.1
Mansfield Town643.94
Bury633.83
Exeter City643.13
Grimsby Town622.84
Forest Green632.68
Crawley Town622.54
Cheltenham Town622.43
Carlisle United622.34
Morecambe602.05
Crewe Alexandra602.05
Cambridge Utd611.98
Colchester641.6
Newport County611.6
Macclesfield601.51
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Post by Afro on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 10:12 am

Marky wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:You sure that’s right on Colchester? Their whole first XI is consistently 63/64 and up

I thought that but it is based on the whole squad.

There is also this. Overall FIFA ranking is based only on their starting XI, whereas TM value considers the whole squad
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Post by Trebs on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 10:12 am

I think both should be incorporated into the expected position. Especially when you consider Colchester are bossing it IRL.

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Post by Afro on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 10:17 am

Trebs wrote:I think both should be incorporated into the expected position. Especially when you consider Colchester are bossing it IRL.

Open to suggestions, but I think if we incorporate FIFA ratings, it needs to factor in the rating of the whole squad.
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Post by Take a boo on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 10:19 am

Big pressure on MK Dons to deliver with that TM value, they're operating at a different level to most of the rest of the league

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Post by Marky on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 11:08 am

I think Afro has it right, while Colchester may have a small advantage in terms of the opening few weeks, by Week 4 it's conceivable that sides will be playing a starting XI of players not originally in their squad, so TM value has to be the measuring stick IMO.

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Post by Hero on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 11:12 am

Does it take into account the exponential growth that teams will have over the course of the season. Over 30 weeks MK Dons accepting lawyers for 500k players and then getting lawyers for the 550k players, and then 600k players etc is generating a lot more additional funds than me getting lawyers on 50k, 55k, 60k players.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 11:21 am

Not sure it’s just an early advantage either!

Probably the best way to do the rankings though as it’s rather impossible to find balance between value, starting XI ability and squad average.

Saying all that, I’m finding that affordable players with a near 70 rating are usually good at about 2 things, but genuinely Poopie footballers and people

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Post by Afro on Mon 12 Nov 2018, 11:22 am

Hero wrote:Does it take into account the exponential growth that teams will have over the course of the season. Over 30 weeks MK Dons accepting lawyers for 500k players and then getting lawyers for the 550k players, and then 600k players etc is generating a lot more additional funds than me getting lawyers on 50k, 55k, 60k players.

No, it doesn't boxing
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