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Post by Afro on Sat 10 Nov 2018, 11:49 am

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Welcome to the FIFA Challenge League




Game uses FIFA 19 version as at 30/10/2018

Week 6:

Grimsby Town 3-0 Colchester
Crawley Town 3-1 Crewe Alexandra
Cambridge Utd 3-1 Cheltenham Town
Morecambe 0-1 Lincoln City
Forest Green 4-2 Macclesfield
Carlisle United v Bury
MK Dons v Exeter City
Mansfield Town 0-1 Newport County



Links

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rzMxThEbVCIiOq_gKOmMqH7WgcsIpYxleuPOWIzg-4Q/edit?usp=sharing

Team_________Manager
Bury_________$ka
Cambridge Utd_________Dolph
Carlisle United_________Fluxy
Cheltenham Town_________Twist
Colchester_________Azzy
Crawley Town_________Marky
Crewe Alexandra_________Nads
Exeter City_________Trebs
Forest Green_________TAB
Grimsby Town_________Fernando
Lincoln City_________Bam
Macclesfield_________Hero
Mansfield Town_________Rof
MK Dons_________Olly
Morecambe_________Afro
Newport County_________Sodhat



Matches_________Transfers_________Other
Fixtures_________Lawyers_________Rules
Table_________Foreigns_________Press Conferences
Injuries_________Releases_________
Tactics_________Confirmation_________
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Post by BamBam on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 3:15 pm

Fine by me

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Post by BamBam on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 3:59 pm

Tactics in

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Post by Marky on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 4:03 pm

I'm not happy. I would have tried to be luckier had I known in advance...

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Post by Azzy on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 4:09 pm

Marky wrote:I'm not happy. I would have tried to be luckier had I known in advance...
You've been trying to get lucky for years without success ghost

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Post by Marky on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 4:16 pm

Azzy wrote:
Marky wrote:I'm not happy. I would have tried to be luckier had I known in advance...
You've been trying to get lucky for years without success ghost

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Post by Afro on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 10:41 pm

What FIFA version should we be using for applying the 70 FIFA rating cap. 1) Hero’s version that the games are played on or 2) the latest version.

Downside to each is 1) you are able buy players who have gone up on newer version, knowing you get the lift when Hero updates; or 2) you can have a player who has moved to 70 but will play with a higher rating until Hero updates.

I have signed Mugni today who is now 70, but is still 71 on Hero’s version (done unknowingly tbh).

Given the upgrade can happen anytime, I think 2 is better, but happy to reverse the Mugni deal if needed as he was only signed as a squad player.
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Post by Afro on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 10:45 pm

Afro wrote:What FIFA version should we be using for applying the 70 FIFA rating cap. 1) Hero’s version that the games are played on or 2) the latest version.

Downside to each is 1) you are able buy players who have gone up on newer version, knowing you get the lift when Hero updates; or 2) you can have a player who has moved to 70 but will play with a higher rating until Hero updates.

I have signed Mugni today who is now 70, but is still 71 on Hero’s version (done unknowingly tbh).

Given the upgrade can happen anytime, I think 2 is better, but happy to reverse the Mugni deal if needed as he was only signed as a squad player.

Or the player has to be within the cap for both latest and game version at the time of purchase
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 11:10 pm

I was working on it being had to be 70 on the version we were using as I search for players based on that database

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 11:11 pm

As such, I’m more behind 1 than 2. Isn’t that fairer? That way you aren’t breaking the cap?

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Post by Afro on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 11:15 pm

I think a mix has been used.
I had to reverse a GK signing a week or so ago as he had gone up to 71 in the latest version
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Post by Afro on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 11:18 pm

I’m thinking it should be 70 on both versions.
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Post by Afro on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 8:45 am

Let's go with the cap needing to apply on both the latest version and the version used in the game.

I don't think there is anyone who has been bought already that hasn't complied with that anyway, apart from my guy yesterday.

I will reverse the deal for him and sign someone else
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Post by BamBam on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 8:48 am

Think that makes sense. I've only been checking against Hero's version but will check against the latest going forward

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Post by TwisT on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 9:05 am

Tactics done - good luck Dolph.

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Post by Trebs on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 9:15 am

I took the cup seriously thinking it was that I would be allowed to sign Fellaini if I won it...

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Post by Azzy on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 9:54 am

I'm very confused now. One of my players has gone up to 71. Do I now need to release him and lose money?

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Post by Afro on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 9:59 am

Azzy wrote:I'm very confused now. One of my players has gone up to 71. Do I now need to release him and lose money?

Sorry, I should clarify.

No you don't need to sell him.

Players need to be within the FIFA Rating Cap at the time of purchase on both the latest version and the version used to play the games. Players brought into the league inside the cap that subsequently go above the cap are okay and do not need to be sold.
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Post by Azzy on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 12:02 pm

So when we buy a player, we need to check two versions of FIFA? How do you do that?

I just assumed we were using the latest update, I may have purchased a player who was 71 but went down to 70 since for all I know.

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Post by BamBam on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 12:09 pm

On SoFIFA at least, you can select the version by clicking on the date at the top left. I've had my bookmark saved to the Oct 29 version, which is what Hero uses in the games

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Post by Afro on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 12:10 pm

Azzy wrote:So when we buy a player, we need to check two versions of FIFA? How do you do that?

I just assumed we were using the latest update, I may have purchased a player who was 71 but went down to 70 since for all I know.

Hero would have picked it up if you had as he would show as 71 on his game when he updates your squad.

It adds an extra check, but it is quite simple. Using SoFIFA (https://sofifa.com/), at the top right it says "FIFA 19 Dec 3 2018". This is on all pages, and clicking on it brings up all the older versions of FIFA. So find your player, and then as a final check, just change the version and check the rating is still within the cap.

October 29th is the version Hero is currently on.
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Post by Hero on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 12:26 pm

On reflection regarding this rule should we have it that ones that will go up are allowed?

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Post by Azzy on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 12:32 pm

BamBam wrote:On SoFIFA at least, you can select the version by clicking on the date at the top left. I've had my bookmark saved to the Oct 29 version, which is what Hero uses in the games
I had no idea - thanks BamJamFam kiss

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Post by Trebs on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 12:42 pm

I think if anything it should just be the current FIFA rating. So if your player was a 71, then goes down to 68 then you're okay, as you're penalised more down the line and presumably your player is out of form.

If it's the other way round then it's a way of getting the in form players for cheaper - it's exploiting the rules.

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Post by Afro on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 12:46 pm

Trebs wrote:I think if anything it should just be the current FIFA rating. So if your player was a 71, then goes down to 68 then you're okay, as you're penalised more down the line and presumably your player is out of form.

If it's the other way round then it's a way of getting the in form players for cheaper - it's exploiting the rules.

This was my stance, but then others felt that it was obvious it should be the other way around. The obvious solution is for it to be both
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Post by Afro on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 12:47 pm

Hero wrote:On reflection regarding this rule should we have it that ones that will go up are allowed?

How do you mean?
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Post by Afro on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 1:42 pm

Hero - any ideas what's happened to Outside of the Boot. The seem to have vanished off the planet
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Post by Hero on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 1:52 pm

Trebs wrote:I think if anything it should just be the current FIFA rating. So if your player was a 71, then goes down to 68 then you're okay, as you're penalised more down the line and presumably your player is out of form.

If it's the other way round then it's a way of getting the in form players for cheaper - it's exploiting the rules.

See I disagree on this one, case in point the player Afro went for, he's dropped to a 70 this week from 71 and has a few other stats reduced. Afro though could buy him as a 71 rated player and use him as that for several weeks, I then do an update and Afro then sells him that week. Penalising down the line doesn't really penalise.
The other way round is less exploitation and more planning ahead, you see a player is due a rise, you don't get the benefit immediately and have to wait until I update.

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Post by Hero on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 1:53 pm

Afro wrote:Hero - any ideas what's happened to Outside of the Boot. The seem to have vanished off the planet

Not sure which is a shame as was probably my main go to source for scouting!

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Post by Afro on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 1:58 pm

Hero wrote:
The other way round is less exploitation and more planning ahead, you see a player is due a rise, you don't get the benefit immediately and have to wait until I update.

The other way is already knowing a player is going to get better. The change to the latest version could in theory happen at any time, and whilst I don't believe you would do it anyway other than honestly, it does make the time of upgrading more subjective.

So both alternatives have a downside, and people will clearly sit on one side of the fence or the other. Hence why the fairest answer is the one we have adopted where it has to fall inside the cap on both versions
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Post by Renege on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 3:07 pm

I think having to be capped at 70 on both versions is fair at time of buying

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Post by TwisT on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 4:19 pm

We are just talking about a 1 or 2 point increase/decrease though right? And it's not going to affect their TM value.

I think we are over thinking it. I see it as a non issue. If it's 70 on sofifa and 71 in game then so be it. I don't think it's game changing.

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Post by Azzy on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 4:39 pm

Renege wrote:I think having to be capped at 70 on both versions is fair at time of buying
That's fine. But should we say that it's versions that are four weeks apart, rather than having 29 October as our original benchmark and lasting until February? Plenty of players will change dramatically during that time.

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Post by Afro on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 5:21 pm

TwisT wrote:We are just talking about a 1 or 2 point increase/decrease though right? And it's not going to affect their TM value.

I think we are over thinking it. I see it as a non issue. If it's 70 on sofifa and 71 in game then so be it. I don't think it's game changing.

I think its simple tbh. Its 70 on both and everyone knows where they stand then.

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Renege wrote:I think having to be capped at 70 on both versions is fair at time of buying
That's fine. But should we say that it's versions that are four weeks apart, rather than having 29 October as our original benchmark and lasting until February? Plenty of players will change dramatically during that time.

We can't set a specific time scale. When the version is updated, it resets all the squads to real life, which means Hero has to go in and move all the players about again. That should be done only when he is willing and able to put that time in.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 5:51 pm

Isn’t it going to be that we move up to 75 at the update?

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Post by Afro on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 6:09 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Isn’t it going to be that we move up to 75 at the update?

That’ll be at the end of the season. Version update could be any time.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 6:24 pm

Ahh.

I kinda think it only matters as of now. Anyone who finds someone who was 70 then and 70+ now is welcome to them, they’ve scouted, they get no advantage till the update, others will have found potential growth anyway.

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Post by Trebs on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 6:47 pm

I think it's just got to be start of the season date and today personally.
And it's purely based on whatever sofifa rates them as surely, any other numbers are irrelevant.

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Post by Afro on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 7:13 pm

It’s latest version and whatever one Hero runs on his xbox.

If he wants to update over Xmas then I think it’s up to him. It’s his game.

His son applied the update in the last game Laugh
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Post by Hero on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 7:43 pm

I am planning on an update over Xmas/New Year.

On that note could someone else who has FIFA try something out for me?
Basically make some changes to teams and save the file. Then when the weekly update happens download the update so it resets the squad changes you made, then load the file. Want to see if it then amends squads to what you changed with updates. If that's the case then can update without issues.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 9:52 pm

I can update FUT without it changing my squads, but I’ll look at the other thing

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Post by Hero Yesterday at 2:43 pm

Will replay Carlisle v Bury, fecking Fifa did its swap players about thing.

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Post by Azzy Today at 11:16 am

Morning all. Great to see Citeh lose eh? Always nice to see them throw away an unbeaten season, right after Adrian Durham says they could go all season unbeaten. Especially nice that he launched abuse at the betting company guy at the weekend for saying he thought Chelsea would win 2-0. I think he asked him "are you high" on national radio Laugh

Here you go Adrian egg Rolling Eyes egg

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Post by BamBam Today at 11:20 am

Adrian Durham is a prize muppet isn't he

Nice to see Citeh lose, but of course the worst possible bunch of fans have something to crow about instead.

Good to see Chelsea fans maintaining their image this weekend too, it had been a while Laugh

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Post by Fluxy Today at 11:59 am

Hero wrote:Will replay Carlisle v Bury, fecking Fifa did its swap players about thing.

There goes my first league win of the season  Crying or Very sad

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Post by Hero Today at 12:55 pm

Fluxy wrote:
Hero wrote:Will replay Carlisle v Bury, fecking Fifa did its swap players about thing.

There goes my first league win of the season  Crying or Very sad

Sorry! May still happen though, will replay it this evening.

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Post by TwisT Today at 1:02 pm

Hello guys, honest request. I am really struggling to find time for this at the moment - work has been seriously manic. I can still commit to doing tactics but I am looking for an joint manager to help with the scouting side. I just haven't had the time.

If anyone is interested or you know someone who might be, can you let me know please.

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Post by $ka Today at 3:12 pm

Fluxy wrote:
Hero wrote:Will replay Carlisle v Bury, fecking Fifa did its swap players about thing.

There goes my first league win of the season  Crying or Very sad


Not for long! Looks like my first week result was a major fluke.

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Post by Fluxy Today at 3:21 pm

$ka wrote:
Fluxy wrote:
Hero wrote:Will replay Carlisle v Bury, fecking Fifa did its swap players about thing.

There goes my first league win of the season  Crying or Very sad


Not for long! Looks like my first week result was a major fluke.

Haha, we shall see! I don't hold much hope for the same result. Although IF, it does happen, then I might finally have found a formula. Which was pretty much my formation from last season  Laugh

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