Is New Zealand’s back row their Achilles heal.

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Is New Zealand’s back row their Achilles heal.

Post by stevetynant on Tue 20 Nov 2018, 8:24 pm

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I’m starting to think this is the poorest All Blak backrow I can ever remember.Kieran Reid is one of the greats as far as I’m concerned but he looks like he’s running on empty at the moment. Savea is an impact player to me and I can’t even remember who was playing 6 as they were pretty much anonymous. All Blak backrows in times gone by were the most frightening part of their team but now very average,I’m not sure in a world team now who would make it even onto the subs bench. I know Cane will hopefully be back for the World Cup but genuine question to our New Zealand friends who’s waiting in the wings? Where’s the next McCaw, Michael Jones or Kronfield coming from?

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Post by Pie on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 2:18 am

Taylorman wrote:At least youre both there or thereabouts. We certainly do seem to bring better players through. Our isolation...wouldnt be many countries that coukd say its over three hours flying to get to its nearest neighbour, gives us a separateness thats rather unique.

We have immigrants like anyone else and rugby is still at the top of our sport focus, despite playing every other sport to some degree as everyone else does.

NZ will work out the rush defence but it will more likely be its own limitations that bring its downfall. For a side to just keep doing the same limited thing match after match has got to have its downsides.

Will Ireland for instance be able to be as punishing defensively during pool play, quarter, semi then again in the final.

Perhaps if they were putting away the tough sides by big margins, but theyre not. Many matches, particularly away theyre winning close matches.

NZs discipline issues are being overated here. Why? Because guns is the only one who thinks its a genuine issue. He cant even find snyone to dis uss it with

even when beaten its not by enough Laugh

NZ are no different to any other side; put enough pressure on their possession with 'offensive' defense and you start to see the cracks

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Post by Taylorman on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 2:29 am

Pie wrote:
Taylorman wrote:At least youre both there or thereabouts. We certainly do seem to bring better players through. Our isolation...wouldnt be many countries that coukd say its over three hours flying to get to its nearest neighbour, gives us a separateness thats rather unique.

We have immigrants like anyone else and rugby is still at the top of our sport focus, despite playing every other sport to some degree as everyone else does.

NZ will work out the rush defence but it will more likely be its own limitations that bring its downfall. For a side to just keep doing the same limited thing match after match has got to have its downsides.

Will Ireland for instance be able to be as punishing defensively during pool play, quarter, semi then again in the final.

Perhaps if they were putting away the tough sides by big margins, but theyre not. Many matches, particularly away theyre winning close matches.

NZs discipline issues are being overated here. Why? Because guns is the only one who thinks its a genuine issue. He cant even find snyone to dis uss it with

even when beaten its not by enough Laugh

NZ are no different to any other side; put enough pressure on their possession with 'offensive' defense and you start to see the cracks

Interesting. Yet most of your lot have been telling us for years we are very different. Wish youd make up your minds Laugh

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Post by Pie on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 3:00 am

Taylorman wrote:
Pie wrote:
Taylorman wrote:At least youre both there or thereabouts. We certainly do seem to bring better players through. Our isolation...wouldnt be many countries that coukd say its over three hours flying to get to its nearest neighbour, gives us a separateness thats rather unique.

We have immigrants like anyone else and rugby is still at the top of our sport focus, despite playing every other sport to some degree as everyone else does.

NZ will work out the rush defence but it will more likely be its own limitations that bring its downfall. For a side to just keep doing the same limited thing match after match has got to have its downsides.

Will Ireland for instance be able to be as punishing defensively during pool play, quarter, semi then again in the final.

Perhaps if they were putting away the tough sides by big margins, but theyre not. Many matches, particularly away theyre winning close matches.

NZs discipline issues are being overated here. Why? Because guns is the only one who thinks its a genuine issue. He cant even find snyone to dis uss it with

even when beaten its not by enough Laugh

NZ are no different to any other side; put enough pressure on their possession with 'offensive' defense and you start to see the cracks

Interesting. Yet most of your lot have been telling us for years we are very different. Wish youd make up your minds Laugh

I just did. thumbsup

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Post by Taylorman on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 5:32 am

Yeeah... na. Give it two rugby C matches and theyll be coughing and spluttering the same old tired superlatives. thumbsup

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