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Post by EWT Spoons on Fri 23 Nov 2018, 8:15 am

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Dragons vs Edinburgh
Venue: Rodney Parade
Sunday 25th November
KO 17.30
TV: Premier Sports & S4C

Last time out: Dragons 12 - 25 Edinburgh
Record: Played each other 30 times, Edinburgh edging it (only marginally) 16 wins to 13 (with 1 draw in the mix as well)

Both teams are likely to be missing a number of players with Wales and Scotland in action the day before.
Also the sh*ttest KO time going, if you factor in the internationals the day before, I would imagine there will be max 5 Edinburgh fans travelling for this game.


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Post by RDW on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:21 pm

What a stupid penalty

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Post by BigGee on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:22 pm

Very silly from Hunter-Hill, that might even cost the BP

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Post by BigGee on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:22 pm

Tovey did his old team a favour there

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Post by RDW on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:24 pm

Could we see an Edinburgh smash and grab like last season??

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Post by BigGee on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:25 pm

Last chance Saloon

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Post by RDW on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:26 pm

The backs might as well go for a shower - this isn't leaving the forwards

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Post by RDW on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:29 pm

Deserved win from the dragons - we just didn't do enough over the 80.

Our playoff hopes are hanging by a thread.

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Post by BigGee on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:29 pm

Very unadventurous from Edinburgh, can't say they did not deserve that

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Post by Eejit on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:30 pm

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Post by bsando on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:33 pm

Didn’t see who that was who got turned over but definitely saw it coming! What were they thinking?? Everyone was still on the floor!

Well done dragons! Easily the better team despite a few silly handling errors at times.

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Post by RDW on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:34 pm

Guess we'll have to win the Champions Cup to qualify for Europe next season!

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Post by BigGee on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:36 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Guess we'll have to win the Champions Cup to qualify for Europe next season!

Well Ulster not exactly ripping up trees, so it is not over yet. That BP may yet be important

#thanksjason

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Post by EWT Spoons on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:39 pm

That result was well and truly deserved, with Edinburgh being utterly mince and Dragons actually playing pretty well.

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Post by The Oracle on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:44 pm

We did it! We’re gonna win the leeeeeeague!
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Post by EWT Spoons on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:47 pm

I don't think Hickey or Pyrgos are really cutting it at the moment. Both too one dimensional at the moment. If the rumours are true about Hickey's wages, then I really hope he either shows his worth soon or there is a clause to let him go if he's not capable, as so far I have seen nothing to suggest he's better than Jaco.

I get Pyrgos likes a box kick, or is being told to box kick, and if you're box kicking it's absolutely right that its set in a way that an Edinburgh player can challenge for it, but it also lets the opposition get totally set and ready for pretty much anything coming there way.

I know there are 13 other players on the field, but given those two are supposed to control the game for Edinburgh, currently I just don't see it.

That said, there was a lot of dross on display. I know Cockers has done a lot of good since he came in, but him and his team are responsible for the tactics and style of play, and currently it's ineffective and painful to watch. Not saying cockers out or anything mad like that, just saying a lot of blame here needs to fall at his door and he needs to start sorting it out.

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Post by RDW on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 7:54 pm

Sounds strange but signing Pyrgos has played a big part in our utterly abysmal playing style - everything revolves around him. If we were stuck with Kennedy and Fowles our game plan wouldn't be so dictated by our 9.

It's also a major issue that Cockerill doesn't trust anyone but Pyrgos over 80 minutes.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 8:18 pm

Given both Fowles and Kennedy are out of contract this year, I really hope Cockers (or if we have such a thing as a scouting team) are having a look at possible replacements for someone who could step up a be first choice, or at least offer some realistic competition to Pyrgos.

Just for the record this isn't a reaction to just this game, we've been playing like this all season and I can't see anything improving whilst we play the way we do

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Post by RDW on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 8:36 pm

Edinburgh have now lost 5 games - they only lost 6 in the league last season.

As an aside - Hodge has to go. Our backs and attacking play under his regime has been retched.

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Post by jimbopip on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 8:45 pm


I'm hoping that was your Southern Kings moment for the season. But you never know....

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Post by RDW on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 8:48 pm

jimbopip wrote:
I'm hoping that was your Southern Kings moment for the season. But you never know....
We've already had that away to Zebre!

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Post by BigGee on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 10:03 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Edinburgh have now lost 5 games - they only lost 6 in the league last season.

As an aside - Hodge has to go. Our backs and attacking play under his regime has been retched.

Hard to be to critical of the backs as they never get the ball.

Edinburgh seem to have two tactics: pick and go or box kick and neither of them seem to be working very well.

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Post by RDW on Sun 25 Nov 2018, 10:30 pm

Thing is though they did get a lot of ball tonight they just made a complete arse of it. Our basic skills under Hodge are just shocking - night and day to what Glasgow's B team produced on Friday.

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Post by RiscaGame on Mon 26 Nov 2018, 12:11 am

Good win for Dragons. Atmosphere was a little flat at times, especially first half. We actually got the ball in Jordan Williams’ hands today too, which was a pleasant surprise.

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Post by Stone Motif on Mon 26 Nov 2018, 1:50 pm

RiscaGame wrote:Good win for Dragons. Atmosphere was a little flat at times, especially first half. We actually got the ball in Jordan Williams’ hands today too, which was a pleasant surprise.
Didn't see the game but sounds like a Herculean effort from our four back rowers saved our blushes there
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Post by RiscaGame on Mon 26 Nov 2018, 8:48 pm

I didn’t see Lewis Evans do much, to be honest. Think he must’ve been doing the Dan Lydiate unseen stuff. I’m sure a lot of them had high tackle counts, with the way Edinburgh played. The only real standouts from the pack were Griffiths (obviously) and Keddie for me.

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Post by Stone Motif on Mon 26 Nov 2018, 10:38 pm

RiscaGame wrote:I didn’t see Lewis Evans do much, to be honest. Think he must’ve been doing the Dan Lydiate unseen stuff. I’m sure a lot of them had high tackle counts, with the way Edinburgh played. The only real standouts from the pack were Griffiths (obviously) and Keddie for me.

ESPN had Hibbard (missed him) and Griffiths on 19, Shanks on 20 and Keddie and Cudd both on 23, only a few misses between them. Somebody was obviously listening to Bernard during extra D practice.
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Post by Brendan on Tue 27 Nov 2018, 8:42 am

Good win for Dragons. Hopefully it gives some belief to the players.

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Post by munkian on Tue 27 Nov 2018, 4:06 pm

Christ the Embra 9 and 15 are gobshites aren't they ? Didn't stop mouthing off or moaning all game.
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