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Post by GSC on Tue 18 Sep 2018, 9:09 pm

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I mean are we even sure Gordon isn't a one year wonder who never stuck around for his drop off season.

A lot of hype for a guy who's had more near comebacks than games played in years
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Post by dummy_half on Mon 20 Jan 2020, 3:50 pm

JDizzle wrote:About the best SuperBowl you could wish for as a neutral. KC favourites, but if they let SF get ahead like they did Houston and the Titans they might struggle to reel them in.

I really don't get that - SF were the #1 seeds in the NFC and have a fantastic defence and running game, plus a more than adequate QB. KC have Mahomes and Hill (which is plenty to beat most...)

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 20 Jan 2020, 3:56 pm

Lowlandbrit wrote:So, Niners and Chiefs to meet in Miami. Hard not to root for Andy Reid to finally get a ring.

The only thing stopping me from rooting for KC is Pat Mahomes's annoying as heck girlfriend.

Should be a great game - hopefully it lives upto the billing, after a rather flat conference weekend
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Post by BamBam on Mon 20 Jan 2020, 4:01 pm

What's his girlfriend done?

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Post by GSC on Mon 20 Jan 2020, 8:10 pm

the only thing stopping me from rooting for the chiefs is the trash bags they employ
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Post by JDizzle on Mon 20 Jan 2020, 9:42 pm

GSC wrote:the only thing stopping me from rooting for the chiefs is the trash bags they employ

Kinda went under the radar that KC used Tyreek’s issues off the field to get a discount on his contract.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Tue 21 Jan 2020, 11:39 am

BamBam wrote:What's his girlfriend done?

She is hella annoying. Also not great looking, he needs an upgrade in that department

And yes KC does employ some trash bags - the John Dorsey experience leaves a lot of that behind
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Post by GSC on Tue 21 Jan 2020, 7:00 pm

dorsey didnt trade for frank Clark
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Post by crazy_dave23 on Sun 02 Feb 2020, 7:07 pm

Dave's non specific prediction... Chiefs > 49ers

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun 02 Feb 2020, 10:10 pm

Chiefs - by a fair bit
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Post by JDizzle on Sun 02 Feb 2020, 11:24 pm

49ers 35-27

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Post by Lowlandbrit on Mon 03 Feb 2020, 10:45 am

Kyle Shanahan is developing a very unfortunate reputation.

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Post by Just John on Tue 04 Feb 2020, 4:50 pm

The Jacksonville Jaguars will become the first NFL franchise in history to hold multiple regular season games outside the US, after confirming they will play at, Wembley Stadium, twice, during the 2020 campaign.

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Post by Lowlandbrit on Sat 08 Feb 2020, 4:34 pm

XFLv2 kicks off tonight if anyone wants more football. Let's see if they can outlast the AAF. Most teams will be starting someone you would believe was a backup on an NFL team if someone told you (Josh Johnson! Landry Jones! Cardale Jones!); Bob Stoops, Marc Trestman, Jim Zorn and Pep Hamilton are among the HC.

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Post by gazzyD on Sun 15 Mar 2020, 2:47 pm

New CBA agreed leading to 17 game regular seasons and expanded playoffs

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Post by GSC on Mon 16 Mar 2020, 5:31 pm

within 90 minutes the Texans have won FA
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Post by JDizzle on Mon 16 Mar 2020, 5:57 pm

The over/under on teams who would have just traded a first round pick minimum straight up for Hopkins is surely in the 20s.

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Post by crazy_dave23 on Mon 16 Mar 2020, 7:30 pm

... did not see that coming...

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Post by Pr4wn on Tue 17 Mar 2020, 12:36 am

Buckner gets traded for a first too?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Tue 17 Mar 2020, 7:57 am

Diggs goes for a 1st, 4th, 5th and 6th
Hopkins goes for essentially a 2nd and the worst contract in the NFL on a RB, who's averaged 3.6 ypc since 2017.

Lmao Houston
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Tue 17 Mar 2020, 1:46 pm

I am sad
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Post by JDizzle on Tue 17 Mar 2020, 8:34 pm

So Rivers to Colts, Bridgewater to Panthers, Mariota to Raiders, Brees stays at Saints.

QBs still available/up for trade - Brady, Newton, Winston, Dalton, Carr (?), Brissett, Foles.

Teams still needing a QB - Pats, Chargers, Bucs, Bears

If I had to guess... Bears get Dalton, Chargers roll with Tyrod and a rookie, Brady goes to Arians and the Bucs to avoid playing Mahomes twice a year in LA and the Pats... Go for Cam I guess?

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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 18 Mar 2020, 12:16 am

And Brady comes to the Bucs. I don't know what to think about football any more.

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Post by GSC on Wed 18 Mar 2020, 7:51 am

Bradys firmly in decline and the Bucs roster isnt a top tier one so I cant say I see this ending in confetti
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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 18 Mar 2020, 8:11 am

The Bucs' receivers are among the best in the NFL. Once JPP came back from injury last season, their defence was also top 10.

As for Brady, I suppose we'll have to see. But yes, it's a huge gamble. Especially considering the Bucs' suspect offensive line.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 18 Mar 2020, 8:20 am

Pr4wn wrote:The Bucs' receivers are among the best in the NFL. Once JPP came back from injury last season, their defence was also top 10.

As for Brady, I suppose we'll have to see. But yes, it's a huge gamble. Especially considering the Bucs' suspect offensive line.

Yeah the OL combined with Arians love of going deep would be a worry for me - Brady's arm strength is still there for me, but his pocket mobility really declined last year. Do Tampa have cap room to go after OL? What are there main team needs would you say Pr4wn?
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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 18 Mar 2020, 8:27 am

OL is probably the biggest need. Also remains to be seen whether Jones can kick it up a gear at RB.

Arians will chop and change his scheme to fit Brady, of course.

On D, safety and corner are the holes. The front seven is looking handy, especially now given we've tagged Barrett and re-signed JPP.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 18 Mar 2020, 8:48 am

Pr4wn wrote:OL is probably the biggest need. Also remains to be seen whether Jones can kick it up a gear at RB.

Arians will chop and change his scheme to fit Brady, of course.

On D, safety and corner are the holes. The front seven is looking handy, especially now given we've tagged Barrett and re-signed JPP.

Definitely an intriguing team for next year!
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Post by GSC on Wed 18 Mar 2020, 9:36 am

relying on the defense to stay in form is a big question mark for me, particularly when defensive consistency has a higher variance year to year than offense and last year was a clear outlier.

Would also put a small question mark against the receivers going from a QB that attempted every throw to a QB that cant make a number of them anymore.

Theres a real chance for me that the Bucs are getting end of career Peyton rather than 55 TDs Peyton. And in the NFC I dont think Brady even being above average will be enough
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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 18 Mar 2020, 10:50 am

End of career Peyton won a Superbowl.

Also, the Buccaneers rode their defense to a Superbowl win once before.

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Post by GSC on Wed 18 Mar 2020, 12:36 pm

yes.

however if you're relying on the defense to be historically good, it prompts the question as to why you're investing 30m a year in Brady
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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 18 Mar 2020, 12:43 pm

Who said anyone was relying on the D? You've come up with that by yourself.

I said the D is good, and that it's possible to win while relying on a D. Nobody is suggesting these Bucs will do that?

Weird.

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Post by JDizzle on Wed 18 Mar 2020, 1:44 pm

Brady’s arm was fine last year. Manning’s was a noodle by the end. Whether he can avoid the rush (or he even wants to try - he gave up on plays early last year a lot) is another question.

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