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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:09 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46751577




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Post by RiscaGame on Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:03 pm

Surprised this has taken so long to be made public, to be fair.

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Post by The Oracle on Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:34 pm

My mate named his son after Regan King. Big Scarlets fan. True story!
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Post by BamBam on Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:51 pm

Obviously awful for those who lost money, but I won't criticise King too much after seeing a friend of mine who nearly lost everything due to his gambling addiction

It is an illness, and beyond the control of the person suffering, in my friends case it was only the intervention of those closest to him which has seen it off for now.

I hope he is getting the help he needs, by the sounds of it with his family member stepping in, he is

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:17 pm

Yeah a high profile Irish player had the same issues. He is a coach now and by all accounts he still has the same problems and is bound to blow up badly at some stage.

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Post by Pie on Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:10 pm

BamBam wrote:Obviously awful for those who lost money, but I won't criticise King too much after seeing a friend of mine who nearly lost everything due to his gambling addiction

It is an illness, and beyond the control of the person suffering, in my friends case it was only the intervention of those closest to him which has seen it off for now.

I hope he is getting the help he needs, by the sounds of it with his family member stepping in, he is

everyone has the ability to make a choice and this means people don't have to be responsible for their actions. I have worked very closely with people with drug/alcohol issues and what I see most s people blaming their misfortune on someone else.

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Post by yappysnap on Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:31 am

Jeez i bet they love working with you Pie, old Mr Empathy.


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Post by BamBam on Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:05 am

Pie - I say this with all the respect that you deserve - go Frak yourself

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Post by Pie on Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:10 am

BamBam wrote:Pie - I say this with all the respect that you deserve - go Frak yourself

Exactly the sort of response I'd expect, it shows you up as you can't engage in debate and respect someone else's opinion but at least you own it Laugh

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:47 pm

Saying that mental health is mind over matter is pretty much the same as saying you can woah cancer away.

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Post by LondonTiger on Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:49 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Yeah a high profile Irish player had the same issues. He is a coach now and by all accounts he still has the same problems and is bound to blow up badly at some stage.
Someone we should not name due to the injunction taken out I guess. Unless the forum is hosted on French servers and poster is in France? Never sure how it works to be honest.

Any way we all know who you mean.

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Post by Pie on Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:41 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Saying that mental health is mind over matter is pretty much the same as saying you can woah cancer away.

I didnt say mental health was mind over matter. I said people make their own choices in life. Choose to drink, choose to have the next one, choose to inject drugs, choose to go gambling.

When we disavow our own autonomy then we give up command of our own outcome.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:59 pm

And we all know that addiction etc is mental health. So yeah. Roll it back, ' captain'.

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Post by Pie on Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:08 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:And we all know that addiction etc is mental health. So yeah. Roll it back, ' captain'.

I disagree. in some cases no doubt mental health is at play; in others it is avarice, weakness, peer pressure. To dismiss all these behaviors as mental health is to dismiss each person's responsibility for their own actions and their own outcomes. It is an unfortunate idea that all negative behaviors and outcomes are somehow out of the control of the actor. If as a recovered addict, I go back into the world with the same pressures and do not lapse then explain my ability to do that? It choice, with proper supports and education.

Too many people are willing to dismiss these behaviors as 'mental health' which suggests we have no ability to influence or control our own actions? Unless you restore autonomy people will always fail to control their outcomes

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:23 pm

Disagree all you like. Just makes you wrong captain.

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Post by miaow on Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:47 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
Any way we all know who you mean.
I don't. Insinuate for me, please...

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Post by Taylorman on Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:09 pm

Pie wrote:
BamBam wrote:Pie - I say this with all the respect that you deserve - go Frak yourself

Exactly the sort of response I'd expect, it shows you up as you can't engage in debate and respect someone else's opinion but at least you own it Laugh

Yeah i guess its difficult dealing with the Mr perfects of this world. Laugh

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Post by BamBam on Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:42 am

Pie wrote:
BamBam wrote:Pie - I say this with all the respect that you deserve - go Frak yourself

Exactly the sort of response I'd expect, it shows you up as you can't engage in debate and respect someone else's opinion but at least you own it Laugh

Please refer to my earlier post for some advice on what you can do with your opinion

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Post by LondonTiger on Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:58 am

miaow wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:
Any way we all know who you mean.
I don't. Insinuate for me, please...

L'Equipe ran a story back in 2007, just before Ireland faced France in the RWC. Should be possible to find reference to it using google.

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Post by Gooseberry on Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:32 am

LondonTiger wrote:
miaow wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:
Any way we all know who you mean.
I don't. Insinuate for me, please...

L'Equipe ran a story back in 2007, just before Ireland faced France in the RWC. Should be possible to find reference to it using google.

Im reading that Ronan O'Gara has denied any truth in stories about him.

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Post by LondonTiger on Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:51 am

That he did.

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Post by Pie on Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:35 pm

BamBam wrote:
Pie wrote:
BamBam wrote:Pie - I say this with all the respect that you deserve - go Frak yourself

Exactly the sort of response I'd expect, it shows you up as you can't engage in debate and respect someone else's opinion but at least you own it Laugh

Please refer to my earlier post for some advice on what you can do with your opinion

You're a millennial right.....why dont you use your words Laugh

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Post by Taylorman on Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:41 pm

Pie wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:And we all know that addiction etc is mental health. So yeah. Roll it back, ' captain'.

I disagree. in some cases no doubt mental health is at play; in others it is avarice, weakness, peer pressure. To dismiss all these behaviors as mental health is to dismiss each person's responsibility for their own actions and their own outcomes. It is an unfortunate idea that all negative behaviors and outcomes are somehow out of the control of the actor. If as a recovered addict, I go back into the world with the same pressures and do not lapse then explain my ability to do that? It choice, with proper supports and education.

Too many people are willing to dismiss these behaviors as 'mental health' which suggests we have no ability to influence or control our own actions? Unless you restore autonomy people will always fail to control their outcomes

Thats right, and sometines thats called suicide, and that happens too often.

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