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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Mon 07 Jan 2019, 10:36 am

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Felt like a new season deserves a new thread...

It's reported in Italy that Maurizio Arrivabene has been fired. His strained relationship with Ferrari's prized asset Sebastian Vettel and cost him his job. Arrivabene got one last dig at Vettel though by replacing Raikkonen with LeClerc.

Mattia Binotto will be confirmed as new team boss

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Post by Soul Requiem on Mon 04 Nov 2019, 10:34 am

Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:Schumacher won his 7th championship after 228 races, when the calendar had fewer races.

Mediocre Hamilton reaches a 6th championship in 248 races.

There’s no comparison between Schumacher and Hamilton

That actually makes Hamiltons the greater achievement, dry your eyes though Nathaniel.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Mon 04 Nov 2019, 12:03 pm

Marky wrote:
Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:Schumacher won his 7th championship after 228 races, when the calendar had fewer races.

Mediocre Hamilton reaches a 6th championship in 248 races.

There’s no comparison between Schumacher and Hamilton

I bet the only thing sweeter than the champagne to Hamilton is the tears of his haters Wink
The real Hamilton is the degenerate who was seen between 2009-13. Continually crashing into Massa. That’s his level.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Mon 04 Nov 2019, 12:04 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:
Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:Schumacher won his 7th championship after 228 races, when the calendar had fewer races.

Mediocre Hamilton reaches a 6th championship in 248 races.

There’s no comparison between Schumacher and Hamilton

That actually makes Hamiltons the greater achievement, dry your eyes though Nathaniel.
Diane Abbott style numeracy skills. Good job you aren’t a banker.

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Post by Soul Requiem on Mon 04 Nov 2019, 1:34 pm

Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:Schumacher won his 7th championship after 228 races, when the calendar had fewer races.

Mediocre Hamilton reaches a 6th championship in 248 races.

There’s no comparison between Schumacher and Hamilton

That actually makes Hamiltons the greater achievement, dry your eyes though Nathaniel.
Diane Abbott style numeracy skills. Good job you aren’t a banker.

Fewer races in a calendar year means when you win titles you'll have raced less not more, great logic as always.

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Post by Marky on Mon 04 Nov 2019, 2:04 pm

Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:
Marky wrote:
Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:Schumacher won his 7th championship after 228 races, when the calendar had fewer races.

Mediocre Hamilton reaches a 6th championship in 248 races.

There’s no comparison between Schumacher and Hamilton

I bet the only thing sweeter than the champagne to Hamilton is the tears of his haters Wink
The real Hamilton is the degenerate who was seen between 2009-13. Continually crashing into Massa. That’s his level.

That's like saying "the real Schumacher was the guy who won nothing between 1996 and 1999", because his wasn't the fastest car either.

I'm not saying Hamilton is better than Schumacher, but he is far better than mediocre. Saying Hamilton only won because his teammates weren't up to scratch then pretending Eddie Irvine and Rubens Barrichello were world class racers in the Ferrari is tremendous laughing

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Post by dyrewolfe on Mon 04 Nov 2019, 3:36 pm

I really don't know why you guys even bother responding to that muppet. He does nothing but troll and try to get people to bite. He never posts anything worth reading.

I wish the mods would just ban him already...an IP ban so he can't just make a new account.

Anyway, for those individuals who have difficulty processing logic, Hamilton's achievements are FAR above Schumacher's by the simple reason Lewis has never cheated his way to a title.




Tried to do the same thing to Jacques Villeneuve...but failed hilariously:




Also got done for having illegal launch control software, as well as ignoring black flags:




And to think some people still salute Schumacher as a "great" driver. Successful undoubtedly. Great...no...
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Post by dyrewolfe on Mon 04 Nov 2019, 3:50 pm

No name Bertie wrote:Next year is going to be a 22 race season and the F1 owners want to make it a 25 race season within a few years.  Teams are worried about personel fatigue and burnout having to travel the world to keep the show on the road always under intense pressure to perform and meet their own improvement targets.

That is utterly ridiculous and its probably the only thing I am in agreement with the teams on.

Its a recipe for disaster and could well plunge some of the smaller teams into financial problems with the increased costs. They would also surely have to change the regs on use of parts...or else they would have to be designed to last even longer.

Seems Liberty want to ride their horse until it breaks down. mad

I like the fact that there are breaks in the season...it makes the races more special when they do come around. Too much of anything is bad and could well turn off the punters.

I'd like to know where they plan on hosting these extra races, given that several of the traditional circuits have said its no longer viable for them to host races. If they go the Ecclestone route of getting new circuits built in far-flung places that have no motorsport tradition, they can look forward to more empty stands.

Just madness IMO.
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Post by No name Bertie on Wed 06 Nov 2019, 12:12 am

One of the issues for Red Bull, Mercedes and other non-Ferrari teams has been the extra power the Ferrari engine produces. One of the possible causes may have been Ferrari holding fuel in reserve once the fuel had flowed past the flowmeter. So although they may have been validly meeting the fuel flow limit (as measured by the flowmeter) they may have been holding fuel in reserve after the flowmeter - injecting that into the engine when the additional power was needed. With the Red Bull's clarification to the FIA - that should now be ruled out.

Some claim the drop in straight line power of the Ferrari engine was noticeable in the US race - however this might have been coincidental - because Vettels car had issues from the start, while LeClerc was using an old engine with the power turned down to prevent possible engine failure.

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Post by No name Bertie on Wed 06 Nov 2019, 12:32 am

dyrewolfe wrote:
No name Bertie wrote:Next year is going to be a 22 race season and the F1 owners want to make it a 25 race season within a few years.  Teams are worried about personel fatigue and burnout having to travel the world to keep the show on the road always under intense pressure to perform and meet their own improvement targets.

That is utterly ridiculous and its probably the only thing I am in agreement with the teams on.

Its a recipe for disaster and could well plunge some of the smaller teams into financial problems with the increased costs. They would also surely have to change the regs on use of parts...or else they would have to be designed to last even longer.

Seems Liberty want to ride their horse until it breaks down. mad

I like the fact that there are breaks in the season...it makes the races more special when they do come around. Too much of anything is bad and could well turn off the punters.

I'd like to know where they plan on hosting these extra races, given that several of the traditional circuits have said its no longer viable for them to host races. If they go the Ecclestone route of getting new circuits built in far-flung places that have no motorsport tradition, they can look forward to more empty stands.

Just madness IMO.
The teams comments to the plans was that it shouldn't affect them financially because they would get additional funding associated with the funds the extra races bring in - but it will affect the personnel.  

Larger teams might be able to switch personnel to relieve pressure and burnout (sharing the workload out on race preparation and "race weekends") but key personnel would have unavoidable extra workload - and smaller teams would be less able to share out the workload.  

It has been mentioned that the "long race weekends" has been shortened to enable the possibility of more back to back races.  I think currently the equipment and team arrives Wednesday or Thursday, there are also publicity events on these days, then there is the Free Practice sessions on Friday, Final Practice session and qualifying Saturday, Race Sunday - then the packing up Sunday and shipping out to the next race or where-ever.

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Post by Just John on Tue 12 Nov 2019, 12:34 pm

Albon confirmed at RB for 2020.

F1 also commits to being carbon neutral by 2030 laughing

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Post by Marky on Tue 12 Nov 2019, 1:13 pm

Leclerc taking a 10 place grid penalty in Brazil this weekend for a new engine, ruling him out of the win anyway.

Vettel might beat him now Whistle

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Post by dyrewolfe on Tue 12 Nov 2019, 3:00 pm

Just John wrote:Albon confirmed at RB for 2020.

F1 also commits to being carbon neutral by 2030 laughing


Nice to see that the carbon footprint figures they provided confirmed my thoughts about the sport. Nearly half the CO2 emissions are from logistics, flying / driving the equipment all over the world. About a quarter from personnel travel. Less than 1% from the actual race weekends.


F1 plans to offset emissions through a combination of replanting trees and using the engineering knowhow in the sport to develop new technologies that can capture carbon from the atmosphere.

It calculated the sport's total carbon emissions in 2018 as 256,551 tonnes, not including fans' transport to races, comprising:

- Logistics (road, air and sea freight) 45%
- Personnel travel 27.7%
- Factories and facilities 19.3%
- Events 7.3%
- Total F1 car emissions including all race and test mileage: 0.7%


So going back to 3 litre V8 or even V10 engines wouldn't make a significant difference. Maybe take it up to 2-3% at most.

Retain the energy recovery technology and make them as thermally efficient as possible...but lets hear them screaming at 18,000 rpm again!

I can see how the teams might make their factories and R&D work carbon neutral, but given there are no practical alternatives to flying, sailing or HGVs for hauling the gear around, I struggle to see how they will plant enough trees, or whatever, to offset those emissions.


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Post by dyrewolfe on Tue 12 Nov 2019, 3:14 pm

Marky wrote:Leclerc taking a 10 place grid penalty in Brazil this weekend for a new engine, ruling him out of the win anyway.

Vettel might beat him now Whistle


Depends. Rain is quite common in Brazil. Pretty much ever since his maiden win for Toro Rosso, rain has not been Vettel's friend. Whistle

I wouldn't bet against Leclerc still finding a way past Seb - unless team orders come into effect.
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Post by Just John on Sun 17 Nov 2019, 6:25 pm

Ridiculous SC decision, Bottas couldn’t off parked that more safely. Expect Hamilton will be a sitting duck now, with Verstappen on fresh rubber. Merc pretty much had nothing to lose though.

Ferrari’s have taken each other out laughing

Could be a Honda powered 1-2-3 Shocked

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Post by Just John on Sun 17 Nov 2019, 6:47 pm

Verstappen wins
Gasly 2nd
Hamilton 3rd (potential penalty)

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Post by GSC on Sun 17 Nov 2019, 6:54 pm

not the best piece of driving from albon it must be said.
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Post by dyrewolfe on Sun 17 Nov 2019, 6:58 pm

Well that was a pretty boring race for the most part - apart from the two Safety Cars. First one, as John said, was utterly ridiculous and wasted precious laps that could have been spent racing.

Second one caused by Vettel sabotaging Ferrari's entire race, hitting Leclerc's front wheel, breaking Charles' suspension and giving himself a puncture. picard Laugh

Replays show Leclerc held his line...Vettel just should have moved over a few more inches.

Congrats Red Bull...they seemed to have a clear performance advantage in Brazil, judging from the way Verstappen breezed past Hamilton twice.

Albon really unlucky not to earn his first podium. Defending against Hamilton, he left the door open through a corner, Lewis dived in, Alex belatedly tried to stop him and got shunted off track for his pains.

Mercedes' engine really seemed to struggle for power. Bottas retired with a blown engine after trying to get past Leclerc for lap after lap. Lewis had to settle for 3rd (pending investigation) after being unable to out-drag Gasly down the straight on the final lap. Just 0.1 sec in it in the end.

Sainz had a pretty quiet race but took advantage of the carnage further up the track to finish 4th. Norris coming in 8th made it another decent race for McLaren.

Fantastic result for Alfa with Kimi & Gio finishing 5th and 6th.

Ricciardo 7th for Renault.
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Post by GSC on Sun 17 Nov 2019, 7:58 pm

sainz on the podium.
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Post by GSC on Sun 17 Nov 2019, 7:59 pm

TR now lead Renault by a point in the constructors
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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun 17 Nov 2019, 8:07 pm

When you are a piece of garbage like Hamilton only relevant because of the most dominant car in F1 history. Talentless dosser.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 17 Nov 2019, 9:15 pm

Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:When you are a piece of garbage like Hamilton only relevant because of the most dominant car in F1 history. Talentless dosser.

Tell me....How did your hero Seb do today? Oh of course he totally wrecked his team-mate, his and Ferrari's race.
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Post by dyrewolfe on Sun 17 Nov 2019, 10:02 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:When you are a piece of garbage like Hamilton only relevant because of the most dominant car in F1 history. Talentless dosser.

Tell me....How did your hero Seb do today? Oh of course he totally wrecked his team-mate, his and Ferrari's race.


At least the "talentless dosser" managed to finish the race.

Natty Jac must be having lots of fun wallowing in his bowl of salt. Laugh
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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun 17 Nov 2019, 10:16 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:When you are a piece of garbage like Hamilton only relevant because of the most dominant car in F1 history. Talentless dosser.

Tell me....How did your hero Seb do today? Oh of course he totally wrecked his team-mate, his and Ferrari's race.
Being Scottish, a wasteland of a nation, I’d be embarrassed to even open my mouth.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun 17 Nov 2019, 10:17 pm

dyrewolfe wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:When you are a piece of garbage like Hamilton only relevant because of the most dominant car in F1 history. Talentless dosser.

Tell me....How did your hero Seb do today? Oh of course he totally wrecked his team-mate, his and Ferrari's race.


At least the "talentless dosser" managed to finish the race.

Natty Jac must be having lots of fun wallowing in his bowl of salt. Laugh
The talentless dosser robbed F1 of its first Thai podium winner. Now pipe down you imbecile

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