Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Page 2 of 6 Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next

Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EWT Spoons on Mon 28 Jan 2019, 9:47 am

First topic message reminder :

Scotland Vs Italy

Location: BT Murrayfield

KO: 14.15

TV: BBC(I think)



Last time out:
Italy 27 - 29 Scotland

Head to Head
Played:  19
Sco wins: 12
Italy wins: 7

EWT Spoons

Posts : 3390
Join date : 2012-02-02
Location : Edinburgh

Back to top Go down


Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by RDW on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 11:47 am

Can add Strauss to that list too - never really taken his chance at international level.

I still think Bradbury is the future - based on his form earlier in the season he would have been starting if we wasn't injured IMO.

RDW
Founder
Founder

Posts : 27679
Join date : 2011-06-01
Age : 32
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by bluestonevedder on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 11:47 am

EST wrote:
bluestonevedder wrote:
EST wrote:Here's my stab at what I think Toonie will pick:

Dell
McInally
Nel
Gilchrist
Gray
Ritchie
Hardie
Wilson

Laidlaw
Russell
Maitland
Johnson
Jones
Seymour
Hogg

Bhatti
Stewart
Berghan
Skinner
Graham
Price
Pete Horne
Maitland

Good looking team. I like the pack a lot other than Wilson at 8. I'm not a Scot and don't watch the Pro14 religiously, but are there really no better Scottish qualified 8s than him? I don't see what he brings other than a bit of abrasion.

The Wilson at 8 debate is one that is brought up every time Scotland play a game.  Pretty much every Scotland fan agrees that he isn't the future or really international quality, but through a combination of injuries and other players not taking their chances he inevitably ends up playing.  Other options are below:

Denton - injured
Blade Thompson - injured
Cornell Du Preez - injured and never looked at home at int
Bradbury - Injured
Ashe - unconvincing form  
Fagerson - injured and a bit lightweight
Strauss - fit but not the type of player that fits into toonies system and never convicned at int level

What about Strauss?

bluestonevedder

Posts : 3839
Join date : 2011-08-22

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by bsando on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 11:49 am

Last chance for Scotland to beat a Gatland coached Wales, really hope they can. 2010 still hurts despite most of the players being retired or not involved anymore. Gatland really has been like Edward the 1st to Scotland (to draw a historical comparison). Hopefully Pivac will be a more of an Edward the 2nd Wink

I feel like the media attention is all over Ireland, England and Wales this year which is great for Scotland!


bsando

Posts : 2372
Join date : 2011-11-27
Age : 30
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EWT Spoons on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 11:53 am

I'd agree with RDW that as things stand Bradbury has a real chance of being the future 8 for Scotland, and likely Edinburgh once a bigger/richer team throws some money at Mata.

Taking a stab at the team (which is dangerous given the Toonbola):

1. Dell
2. Rambo
3. Nel
4. Gray
5. Gilco
6. Ritchie
7. Hardie
8. Wilson
9. Laidlaw
10. Finn
11. Seymour
12. P. Horne (if fit)
13. Jones
14. Maitland
15. Hogg

16. Allan
17. Kerr
18. Berghan
19. Toolis
20. Skinner
21. Price
22. Harris (Toonie loves him)
23. Kinghorn


Last edited by EWT Spoons on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 11:55 am; edited 1 time in total

EWT Spoons

Posts : 3390
Join date : 2012-02-02
Location : Edinburgh

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by RDW on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 11:53 am

I'd forgotten he wasn't in charge last year. Bit of a stretch to say we wouldn't have won if he was involved - it's not like the team or tactics would have been much different.

RDW
Founder
Founder

Posts : 27679
Join date : 2011-06-01
Age : 32
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EST on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 11:54 am

bluestonevedder wrote:
EST wrote:
bluestonevedder wrote:
EST wrote:Here's my stab at what I think Toonie will pick:

Dell
McInally
Nel
Gilchrist
Gray
Ritchie
Hardie
Wilson

Laidlaw
Russell
Maitland
Johnson
Jones
Seymour
Hogg

Bhatti
Stewart
Berghan
Skinner
Graham
Price
Pete Horne
Maitland

Good looking team. I like the pack a lot other than Wilson at 8. I'm not a Scot and don't watch the Pro14 religiously, but are there really no better Scottish qualified 8s than him? I don't see what he brings other than a bit of abrasion.

The Wilson at 8 debate is one that is brought up every time Scotland play a game.  Pretty much every Scotland fan agrees that he isn't the future or really international quality, but through a combination of injuries and other players not taking their chances he inevitably ends up playing.  Other options are below:

Denton - injured
Blade Thompson - injured
Cornell Du Preez - injured and never looked at home at int
Bradbury - Injured
Ashe - unconvincing form  
Fagerson - injured and a bit lightweight
Strauss - fit but not the type of player that fits into toonies system and never convicned at int level

What about Strauss?

Yeah, forget him - have edited and included.

EST

Posts : 1385
Join date : 2012-05-25

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by bluestonevedder on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:03 pm

EST wrote:
bluestonevedder wrote:
EST wrote:
bluestonevedder wrote:
EST wrote:Here's my stab at what I think Toonie will pick:

Dell
McInally
Nel
Gilchrist
Gray
Ritchie
Hardie
Wilson

Laidlaw
Russell
Maitland
Johnson
Jones
Seymour
Hogg

Bhatti
Stewart
Berghan
Skinner
Graham
Price
Pete Horne
Maitland

Good looking team. I like the pack a lot other than Wilson at 8. I'm not a Scot and don't watch the Pro14 religiously, but are there really no better Scottish qualified 8s than him? I don't see what he brings other than a bit of abrasion.

The Wilson at 8 debate is one that is brought up every time Scotland play a game.  Pretty much every Scotland fan agrees that he isn't the future or really international quality, but through a combination of injuries and other players not taking their chances he inevitably ends up playing.  Other options are below:

Denton - injured
Blade Thompson - injured
Cornell Du Preez - injured and never looked at home at int
Bradbury - Injured
Ashe - unconvincing form  
Fagerson - injured and a bit lightweight
Strauss - fit but not the type of player that fits into toonies system and never convicned at int level

What about Strauss?

Yeah, forget him - have edited and included.

Fair enough. Denton has looked good in his few appearances for Tigers. Hopefully once he's back and playing regularly he'll be the 8 Scotland need.

It'll be an interesting dynamic once Barclay and Watson are both back competing for the backrow. Could see a 6. Hardie 7. Watson 8. Barclay!

bluestonevedder

Posts : 3839
Join date : 2011-08-22

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EST on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:06 pm

bluestonevedder wrote:
EST wrote:
bluestonevedder wrote:
EST wrote:
bluestonevedder wrote:
EST wrote:Here's my stab at what I think Toonie will pick:

Dell
McInally
Nel
Gilchrist
Gray
Ritchie
Hardie
Wilson

Laidlaw
Russell
Maitland
Johnson
Jones
Seymour
Hogg

Bhatti
Stewart
Berghan
Skinner
Graham
Price
Pete Horne
Maitland

Good looking team. I like the pack a lot other than Wilson at 8. I'm not a Scot and don't watch the Pro14 religiously, but are there really no better Scottish qualified 8s than him? I don't see what he brings other than a bit of abrasion.

The Wilson at 8 debate is one that is brought up every time Scotland play a game.  Pretty much every Scotland fan agrees that he isn't the future or really international quality, but through a combination of injuries and other players not taking their chances he inevitably ends up playing.  Other options are below:

Denton - injured
Blade Thompson - injured
Cornell Du Preez - injured and never looked at home at int
Bradbury - Injured
Ashe - unconvincing form  
Fagerson - injured and a bit lightweight
Strauss - fit but not the type of player that fits into toonies system and never convicned at int level

What about Strauss?

Yeah, forget him - have edited and included.

Fair enough. Denton has looked good in his few appearances for Tigers. Hopefully once he's back and playing regularly he'll be the 8 Scotland need.

It'll be an interesting dynamic once Barclay and Watson are both back competing for the backrow. Could see a 6. Hardie 7. Watson 8. Barclay!

Denton is very good at what he does, he had a real purple patch around the 2015 WC where he was one of our best players.  He has struggled with injuries since then and is one dimensional, but will definitely be in the conversation if he can keep fit.

Hopefully we can get those guys you mention back fit and firing for the WC - still think we need a big carrier in the mix and as RDW said Bradbury is probably out in front - he is a big young lad if you have not heard of him, and was starting at 6 for Edinburgh prior to his injury.

EST

Posts : 1385
Join date : 2012-05-25

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EWT Spoons on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:08 pm

apparently Kerr, G.Graham and Johnson are going to be in the squad, and kinghorn will be starting

EWT Spoons

Posts : 3390
Join date : 2012-02-02
Location : Edinburgh

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by bluestonevedder on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:13 pm

EST wrote:
bluestonevedder wrote:
EST wrote:
bluestonevedder wrote:
EST wrote:
bluestonevedder wrote:
EST wrote:Here's my stab at what I think Toonie will pick:

Dell
McInally
Nel
Gilchrist
Gray
Ritchie
Hardie
Wilson

Laidlaw
Russell
Maitland
Johnson
Jones
Seymour
Hogg

Bhatti
Stewart
Berghan
Skinner
Graham
Price
Pete Horne
Maitland

Good looking team. I like the pack a lot other than Wilson at 8. I'm not a Scot and don't watch the Pro14 religiously, but are there really no better Scottish qualified 8s than him? I don't see what he brings other than a bit of abrasion.

The Wilson at 8 debate is one that is brought up every time Scotland play a game.  Pretty much every Scotland fan agrees that he isn't the future or really international quality, but through a combination of injuries and other players not taking their chances he inevitably ends up playing.  Other options are below:

Denton - injured
Blade Thompson - injured
Cornell Du Preez - injured and never looked at home at int
Bradbury - Injured
Ashe - unconvincing form  
Fagerson - injured and a bit lightweight
Strauss - fit but not the type of player that fits into toonies system and never convicned at int level

What about Strauss?

Yeah, forget him - have edited and included.

Fair enough. Denton has looked good in his few appearances for Tigers. Hopefully once he's back and playing regularly he'll be the 8 Scotland need.

It'll be an interesting dynamic once Barclay and Watson are both back competing for the backrow. Could see a 6. Hardie 7. Watson 8. Barclay!

Denton is very good at what he does, he had a real purple patch around the 2015 WC where he was one of our best players.  He has struggled with injuries since then and is one dimensional, but will definitely be in the conversation if he can keep fit.

Hopefully we can get those guys you mention back fit and firing for the WC - still think we need a big carrier in the mix and as RDW said Bradbury is probably out in front - he is a big young lad if you have not heard of him, and was starting at 6 for Edinburgh prior to his injury.

I've heard his name thrown around a lot but never seen him play. I'll check him out.


bluestonevedder

Posts : 3839
Join date : 2011-08-22

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by RDW on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:15 pm

EWT Spoons wrote:apparently Kerr, G.Graham and Johnson are going to be in the squad, and kinghorn will be starting

Graham is probably good backrow bench cover.

RDW
Founder
Founder

Posts : 27679
Join date : 2011-06-01
Age : 32
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EWT Spoons on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:26 pm

Apparently Johnson is going to be starting at 12, Kinghorn will be on one wing and Seymour the other.

I'd then guess that Kerr and G.Graham will bench

Maitland still struggling with a knock. Could see Darcy on the bench, or Harris might be classed as wing cover, but i really hope not

EWT Spoons

Posts : 3390
Join date : 2012-02-02
Location : Edinburgh

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by bsando on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:38 pm

Insider knowledge! Ah interesting, interesting. Good chance for Blairhorn to show he’s worth keeping in the starting XV.

bsando

Posts : 2372
Join date : 2011-11-27
Age : 30
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by BigGee on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:43 pm

Maitland so surely come back in when fit. He has the best all round game of all our back three players

Almost never makes a mistske

BigGee
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 7874
Join date : 2013-11-05
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EWT Spoons on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:50 pm

bsando wrote:Insider knowledge! Ah interesting, interesting. Good chance for Blairhorn to show he’s worth keeping in the starting XV.


Aka - Twitter Smile

EWT Spoons

Posts : 3390
Join date : 2012-02-02
Location : Edinburgh

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EST on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:52 pm

BigGee wrote:Maitland so surely come back in when fit. He has the best all round game of all our back three players

Almost never makes a mistske

I totally agree - think he has been our best and most consistent performer for a while now.  I sometimes think he doesn't quite get the credit he deserves - we're bloody lucky to have him.


Last edited by EST on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:56 pm; edited 1 time in total

EST

Posts : 1385
Join date : 2012-05-25

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EWT Spoons on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:54 pm

EST wrote:
BigGee wrote:Maitland so surely come back in when fit. He has the best all round game of all our back three players

Almost never makes a mistske

I totally agree - thought he has been our best and most consistent performer for a while now.  I sometimes think he doesn't quite get the credit he deserves - we're bloody lucky to have him.

Also agree.

I think he's let down by not being as exciting to watch as Hogg or Seymour, when at full flow. But his all round game is probably superior.

EWT Spoons

Posts : 3390
Join date : 2012-02-02
Location : Edinburgh

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by RDW on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 12:56 pm

Maitland was probably one of our players of the year last year - he had a great season.

RDW
Founder
Founder

Posts : 27679
Join date : 2011-06-01
Age : 32
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by bsando on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:01 pm

Yep Maitland was my choice of player of the season last year as well

bsando

Posts : 2372
Join date : 2011-11-27
Age : 30
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by RDW on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:01 pm

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 DyPcbkyXcAAkUzM

RDW
Founder
Founder

Posts : 27679
Join date : 2011-06-01
Age : 32
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EWT Spoons on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:04 pm

I'm not blown away by that team.

I don't get what Toonie sees in Harris.
I don't like our replacement lock to be playing 6. If Skinner picks up a knock then Toolis & Gilco are playing the full 80.


EWT Spoons

Posts : 3390
Join date : 2012-02-02
Location : Edinburgh

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by RDW on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:05 pm

I'm quite happy with it - now's the time time see if Skinner really is an international 6. All 3 locks have 80 minute engines so I'm not worried about that.

Bench is underwhelming but we always knew that was going to be the case.

Excited to see what Johnson can do.

RDW
Founder
Founder

Posts : 27679
Join date : 2011-06-01
Age : 32
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by bsando on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:08 pm

No J Gray at all, interesting. Looks like a good starting XV to me, shame about Maitland but I like the balance of the pack. Can’t wait

bsando

Posts : 2372
Join date : 2011-11-27
Age : 30
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EWT Spoons on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:08 pm

I'm maybe being harsh, it's primarily the bench the concerns me. Starting 15 is fine, but Strauss & Harris and no real lock cover just worry me.

EWT Spoons

Posts : 3390
Join date : 2012-02-02
Location : Edinburgh

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by Mad for Chelsea on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:08 pm

Team's oot:

Dell McInally Nel
Toolis Gilchrist
Skinner Ritchie Wilson
Laidlaw Russell
Johnson H. Jones
Kinghorn Hogg Seymour

Kerr Bhatti Berghan Graham Strauss Price Hastings Harris

Only real surprise in the starting XV is Skinner at 6, pushing Ritchie to 7. Not fussed about that, Toonie wanting an extra carrier in the backrow with Watson out makes some sense I guess. It does force the presence of two backrowers on the bench, something I'm not really a massive fan of TBH, but there you go. Other than that, given injuries/knocks, the starting XV is as expected. Excited to see how Jonhson goes. Hastings on the bench ahead of Horne, who might not quite have recovered, or maybe Toonie wants to give the Hastings/Russell axis another go. Harris is one I really just don't get. He's been generally poor for Scotland in his limited chances, and I just don't see what he adds to the squad. Would much rather have Grigg or Graham in there.

Mad for Chelsea

Posts : 12021
Join date : 2011-02-11
Age : 31

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EST on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:11 pm

A real mixed bag there. Strong front 5, but you could argue that both flankers are playing out of position - Skinner looked a bit cumbersome in the Autumn at 6. We have a big issue with the forward replacements - as weak a group of replacements as I can remember and I generally like having a specialist lock on the bench. Chris Harris, surely in the last chance saloon - i'm not sure what Toonie is seeing in him.

EST

Posts : 1385
Join date : 2012-05-25

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by BigGee on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:12 pm

With Hastings on the bench, he had to pick someone who could cover OC and wing.
Graham will get his chance, I fancy he would have played if Horne P had been fit and picked.

Most of those selections hsve been determined by the injuries. Probably the only one to be unlucky is Hardie

BigGee
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 7874
Join date : 2013-11-05
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by BigGee on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:14 pm

Strauss can have a good impact off the bench. It is as a starter that he struggles, he just has not got the legs for 80 mins

BigGee
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 7874
Join date : 2013-11-05
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by RDW on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:16 pm

Gray and Maitland injured

Glasgow Warriors centre Sam Johnson will make his Scotland debut in this Saturday’s Guinness Six Nations opener against Italy at BT Murrayfield Stadium (kick-off 2.15pm) – live on BBC.

The Australia-born midfielder [picured right] is one of three uncapped players named in the match-day 23, with former Fosroc Academy and Leicester Tigers hooker Jake Kerr joined by Newcastle Falcons back-row Gary Graham on the bench [pictured below].

Johnson is one of six personnel changes to the team that started Scotland’s final home Autumn Test win over Argentina (14-9).

Glasgow Warriors wing Tommy Seymour replaces Saracens’ Sean Maitland, who has failed to recover sufficiently from a hamstring injury sustained while representing his club side.

The four remaining changes come in the pack, where hooker Stuart McInally, lock Ben Toolis, and back-row forwards Sam Skinner and Ryan Wilson start in place of injured trio Fraser Brown (knee), Jonny Gray (shoulder) and Hamish Watson (hand), and Josh Strauss, who moves to the bench.

The changes mean an all-Edinburgh tight-five will take to the field as Toolis partners Grant Gilchrist in the second-row and McInally packs down with front-row colleagues Allan Dell and Willem Nel.

Clermont Auvergne scrum-half Greig Laidlaw returns to captain once more alongside Finn Russell, who reverts to his more familiar stand-off berth to accommodate the incoming Johnson, who partners clubmate Huw Jones in midfield.

Stuart Hogg and Blair Kinghorn form the back-three with the incoming Seymour.

Scotland Head Coach, Gregor Townsend, said: “It’s a privilege to be involved in the Guinness Six Nations, a tournament that has grown in quality over the past few seasons. You can sense the excitement throughout the rugby world on the eve of this year’s Championship and we're looking forward to our starting our campaign at BT Murrayfield.

“Italy have made life tough for Scotland in every Test match we’ve played. I remember that as a player, as a supporter and as a coach – and they were better than us in most of last season’s contest in Rome. They played with pace, were physical and we had to play really, really well in the final quarter to win.

"That performance and also the recent displays of Benetton Treviso are sharp reminders for our players that this will be a difficult fixture.

"Our challenge is to win the physical battle, which is a strength of Italian rugby. We will also have to bring energy and accuracy in order to get our campaign off to a winning start.”

Townsend also confirmed that Scotland wing Lee Jones will play no part in the opening rounds of the Guinness Six Nations campaign, having sustained a knee injury playing for Glasgow Warriors in the Guinness PRO14.

Scotland team to play Italy in the Guinness Six Nations
Saturday 2 February, kick-off 2.15pm – live on BBC

15. Stuart Hogg VICE-CAPTAIN (Glasgow Warriors) - 65 caps

14. Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) - 46 caps
13. Huw Jones (Glasgow Warriors) - 19 caps
12. Sam Johnson (Glasgow Warriors) - uncapped
11. Blair Kinghorn (Edinburgh) - 7 caps

10. Finn Russell (Racing 92) - 40 caps
9. Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Clermont Auvergne) - 66 caps

1. Allan Dell (Edinburgh) - 17 caps
2. Stuart McInally VICE-CAPTAIN (Edinburgh) - 22 caps
3. Willem Nel (Edinburgh) - 26 caps
4. Ben Toolis (Edinburgh) - 14 caps
5. Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh) - 28 caps
6. Sam Skinner (Exeter Chiefs) - 3 caps
7. Jamie Ritchie (Edinburgh) - 6 caps
8. Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) - 41 caps

Substitutes
16. Jake Kerr (Leicester Tigers) - uncapped
17. Jamie Bhatti (Glasgow Warriors) - 11 caps
18. Simon Berghan (Edinburgh) - 14 caps
19. Gary Graham (Newcastle Falcons) - uncapped
20. Josh Strauss (Sale Sharks) - 17 caps
21. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors) - 19 caps
22. Adam Hastings (Glasgow Warriors) - 7 caps
23. Chris Harris (Newcastle Falcons) - 6 caps

Squad players unavailable through injury: Jonny Gray (shoulder), George Horne (shoulder), Pete Horne (shoulder), Lee Jones (knee), Sean Maitland (hamstring), Grant Stewart (shoulder).


RDW
Founder
Founder

Posts : 27679
Join date : 2011-06-01
Age : 32
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by BigGee on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:18 pm

Anyway, Well done to the newbies

Johnson could be the 12 We have been looking for and surely Gary Graham was always destined to play for Scotland. Him and Strauss will bring a lot of physicality off the bench

Jake Kerr deserves a mention for persistence after being rejected by Edinburgh. He has done it on the road the hard way

BigGee
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 7874
Join date : 2013-11-05
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by 123456789. on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:26 pm

I'm hoping that's a horses for courses selection, we will get mullered at the breakdown if we persist with Skinner and Ritchie at Flanker through the tournament. The front 5 is to be expected and Cockerill has produced a masterclass with that that group. The back row is iffy to say the least. I'd say that none of them are totally equipped to perform at the highest level there. The backline is fairly predictable. Johnson is a good player. Huw Jones needs a big game. The back three is very strong although Chris Harris is living a charmed life and Darcy Graham can't be far away. It will be interesting to see how the team alters when Jonny Gray and Maitland return to full fitness. What worries me more than anything else is what we'll do if things aren't going well with 20 minutes to go. Ali Price is the only player there who would seem likely to come on and change things in an effective way, but given the sheer number of times Greig Laidlaw has dragged us home it would seem odd to take him off. Hastings is a good player but there's little he can do that Russell can't. Harris is miles behind the players starting ahead of him. The forwards on the bench are certainly 'replacements' rather than 'finishers' or 'game changers'. It should be a team good enough to see us home against Italy comfortably, but I imagine will need tweaking through the later stages.

123456789.

Posts : 364
Join date : 2015-10-10

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by LondonTiger on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:31 pm

Really pleased for Jake Kerr, even if he will be dropped like a shot when other options are fit again.

LondonTiger
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 21442
Join date : 2011-02-10

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by BigGee on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 1:36 pm

I don't doubt it will change and probably by next weekend for the Ireland game. I bet some of those injured players are being held back and not risked.

We could also get others like ZF and FB coming back into the mix. Others will likely filter back during the tournament as well.

This team should be good enough to win. That pack should give us good ball and the backs should score tries if they get the ball

I am happy enough with it

BigGee
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 7874
Join date : 2013-11-05
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by maestegmafia on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 2:06 pm

Any news on Italy yet?

maestegmafia
Maes
Maes

Posts : 22585
Join date : 2011-03-05
Location : Glyncorrwg

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by Mad for Chelsea on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 2:06 pm

I think, given injuries, and perhaps an understandable desire to give the likes of Gray & Maitland an extra week off to recover, the team's pretty much as expected, and about as good as we could want. It should really be enough to put Italy away fairly comfortably. The two selections I'm least pleased with is the presence of the two backrowers on the bench, and Harris.

On the former, with Grays out, and Skinner starting on the flank, it does make some sense. The only real other option is Swinson, and I'm not sure he's a great bench option TBH. Strauss should add some good carrying, and it'll be good to see what Graham can do. It's also true that Scotland's lock options in general are all more than happy with playing the full 80, so it's perhaps less of a problem than it could be. Not ideal, but understandable.

Harris I just don't get. Other than a straightforward draw and give against Fiji I don't think he's ever done anything particularly positive in a Scotland shirt. I get that he nominally covers wing, but whenever he's come on there for Scotland he's been gash. I also get that we could do with OC cover, as with Graham on the bench, if Jones has to come off you'll end up with a midfield of Hastings Russell Johnson, which is not great. But in that case I'd really rather see Grigg instead TBH. It seems Harris is there for his supposed versatility, but for me he's just not good enough. Clearly Toonie sees something in him though, so...

Mad for Chelsea

Posts : 12021
Join date : 2011-02-11
Age : 31

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EST on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 2:08 pm

Like you say BigGee, I imagine it will change next week - I would be very concerned if that BR went up against Ireland - I strongly suspect O'Mahoney would have a field day against Skinner

EST

Posts : 1385
Join date : 2012-05-25

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by NeilyBroon on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 2:17 pm

I feel pretty happy with the squad, and feel that despite its shortcomings, that's a bench with a lot of points to make a la graham, price, strauss.

Like others I'm a bit put off by the back row but i think jury's out for me on Skinner at 6. It can't be worse than having big bob there and we need to try things in the backrow, italy is our only chance realistically to do minor tinkering. Hardie can consider himself unlucky though, definitely deserves a bench spot over Graham at least, though hoping the latter proves himself after all the england drama.

As for harris, well... He's not exactly the player our coaches seem to make out he is. I'd sooner see lang join the squad if we want versatility.
NeilyBroon
NeilyBroon

Posts : 1684
Join date : 2012-01-12
Age : 28
Location : Southampton

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by LondonTiger on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 2:27 pm

15 Jayden HAYWARD (Benetton Rugby, 12 caps)
14 Angelo ESPOSITO (Benetton Rugby, 15 caps)*
13 Luca MORISI (Benetton Rugby, 20 caps)*
12 Tommaso CASTELLO (Zebre Rugby Club, 15 caps)
11 Michele CAMPAGNARO (Wasps Rugby, 38 caps)*
10 Tommaso ALLAN (Benetton Rugby, 43 caps)
9 Tito TEBALDI (Benetton Rugby,29 caps)
8 Sergio PARISSE (Stade Francais, 134 caps) – capitano
7 Abraham STEYN (Benetton Rugby, 25 caps)
6 Sebastian NEGRI (Benetton Rugby, 12 caps)
5 Dean BUDD (Benetton Rugby, 16 caps)
4 David SISI (Zebre Rugby Club, esordiente)
3 Simone FERRARI (Benetton Rugby, 17 caps)
2 Leonardo GHIRALDINI (Stade Toulosain, 99 caps)
1 Andrea LOVOTTI (Zebre Rugby Club, 30 caps)

a disposizione
16 Luca BIGI (Benetton Rugby, 15 caps)
17 Cherif TRAORE’ (Benetton Rugby, 5 caps)*
18 Tiziano PASQUALI (Benetton Rugby, 13 caps)
19 Federico RUZZA (Benetton Rugby,  7 caps)*
20 Jimmy TUIVAITI (Zebre Rugby Club, 1 cap)
21 Guglielmo PALAZZANI (Zebre Rugby Club, 28 caps)
22 Ian MCKINLEY (Benetton Rugby, 4 caps)
23 Edoardo PADOVANI (Zebre Rugby Club, 15 caps)*

LondonTiger
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 21442
Join date : 2011-02-10

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by NeilyBroon on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 2:37 pm

As expected mostly Benetton, we can expect them to be abrasive for sure!
NeilyBroon
NeilyBroon

Posts : 1684
Join date : 2012-01-12
Age : 28
Location : Southampton

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by lostinwales on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 3:07 pm

David Sisi at 4 is interesting

lostinwales

Posts : 8607
Join date : 2011-06-09
Location : Out of Wales :)

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by bluestonevedder on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 3:08 pm

What's happened to Tommasso Boni? I remember him being a real handful last year every time he played. I can't see any articles saying he's injured...

bluestonevedder

Posts : 3839
Join date : 2011-08-22

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by George Carlin on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 3:33 pm

Treviso v Glasburgh.

Bring it, my beautiful Italian friends.

boxing
George Carlin
George Carlin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 14694
Join date : 2011-06-23
Location : United Arab Emirates

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by tigertattie on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 3:41 pm

Someone tell me what I should think of that team!!!

I’m conflicted!

I’d have wee Horne benching and goodness knows why Harris is still there. I’m worried if Johnson is struggling in his first cap we might see jones at 12 with Harris at 13 again which sacred the bajeesus our of me!
tigertattie
tigertattie

Posts : 6771
Join date : 2011-07-11
Location : On the naughty step

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by NeilyBroon on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 5:13 pm

Wee horne is supposedly struggling with a shoulder. Yes agree that our centre pairings don't look great outside of starting. Let's just pray it doesnt come to that!
NeilyBroon
NeilyBroon

Posts : 1684
Join date : 2012-01-12
Age : 28
Location : Southampton

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by Eejit on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 5:32 pm

Good to see Toony changing it up a little bit for this game. There aren't going to be many more opportunities to have a look at players ahead of the world cup.

Tell you what though, if I was an Italian fan I'd fancy this game.

Eejit

Posts : 1348
Join date : 2015-02-24
Location : London via Glasgow

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 5:40 pm

Our 6 & 7 are very inexperienced at this level, just as well we've got a calm, measured, steady old hand at 8 to keep them in check. Oh wait... Whistle

TheMildlyFranticLlama

Posts : 1523
Join date : 2013-11-07
Age : 33
Location : Brighton

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by jimbopip on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 6:05 pm

tigertattie wrote:Someone tell me what I should think of that team!!!

I’m conflicted!

I’d have wee Horne benching and goodness knows why Harris is still there. I’m worried if Johnson is struggling in his first cap we might see jones at 12 with Harris at 13 again which sacred the bajeesus our of me!

If injury/having an off-day strikes we could end up with

10. Hastings
12. Dancer
13. Rolf Harris
14. Darcy The Dancer.

So...who's scared now?

jimbopip

Posts : 4914
Join date : 2012-10-14
Location : sunny Essex

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by RDW on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 6:08 pm

jimbopip wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Someone tell me what I should think of that team!!!

I’m conflicted!

I’d have wee Horne benching and goodness knows why Harris is still there. I’m worried if Johnson is struggling in his first cap we might see jones at 12 with Harris at 13 again which sacred the bajeesus our of me!

If injury/having an off-day strikes we could end up with

10. Hastings
12. Dancer
13. Rolf Harris
14. Darcy The Dancer.

So...who's scared now?

Darcy Graham would somehow find his way into the 23?

RDW
Founder
Founder

Posts : 27679
Join date : 2011-06-01
Age : 32
Location : London

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by tigertattie on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 6:15 pm

RDW wrote:
jimbopip wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Someone tell me what I should think of that team!!!

I’m conflicted!

I’d have wee Horne benching and goodness knows why Harris is still there. I’m worried if Johnson is struggling in his first cap we might see jones at 12 with Harris at 13 again which sacred the bajeesus our of me!

If injury/having an off-day strikes we could end up with

10. Hastings
12. Dancer
13. Rolf Harris
14. Darcy The Dancer.

So...who's scared now?

Darcy Graham would somehow find his way into the 23?

Please forgive Jimbo. His advancing years are catching up on him.
tigertattie
tigertattie

Posts : 6771
Join date : 2011-07-11
Location : On the naughty step

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by EWT Spoons on Thu 31 Jan 2019, 6:19 pm

RDW wrote:
jimbopip wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Someone tell me what I should think of that team!!!

I’m conflicted!

I’d have wee Horne benching and goodness knows why Harris is still there. I’m worried if Johnson is struggling in his first cap we might see jones at 12 with Harris at 13 again which sacred the bajeesus our of me!

If injury/having an off-day strikes we could end up with

10. Hastings
12. Dancer
13. Rolf Harris
14. Darcy The Dancer.

So...who's scared now?

Darcy Graham would somehow find his way into the 23?

He does have magic feet that lad.

EWT Spoons

Posts : 3390
Join date : 2012-02-02
Location : Edinburgh

Back to top Go down

Scotland vs Italy 6 nations.  Sat 2nd Feb - Page 2 Empty Re: Scotland vs Italy 6 nations. Sat 2nd Feb

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 2 of 6 Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum