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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 04 Feb 2019, 11:13 am

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Date: Sunday 10th February 2019
Time: 15:00 GMT
Location: Twickenham Stadium
Media Coverage: ITV, BBC (highlights only), Radio 5Live


Officials

Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Assistant 1: Andrew Brace (Ireland)
Assistant 2: Brendon Pickerill (New Zealand)
TMO: Glenn Newman (New Zealand)



Teams


England

15 Elliot Daly (Wasps, 26 caps), 14 Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks, 43 caps), 13 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 18 caps), 12 Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 28 caps), 11 Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 41 caps), 10 Owen Farrell (Saracens, 66 caps) (c), 9 Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 81 caps), 1 Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 52 caps), 2 Jamie George (Saracens, 33 caps), 3 Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 18 caps), 4 Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 69 caps), 5 George Kruis (Saracens, 28 caps), 6 Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons, 9 caps), 7 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 6 caps), 8 Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 37 caps).

16 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 8 caps), 17 Ben Moon (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps), 18 Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 82 caps), 19 Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 54 caps), 20 Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 19 caps), 21 Dan Robson (Wasps, uncapped), 22 George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 52 caps), 23 Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 30 caps).





France

15. Yoann Huget
14. Damian Penaud
13. Mathieu Bastareaud
12. Geoffrey Doumayrou
11. Gaël Fickou
10. Camille Lopez
9. Morgan Parra
1. Jefferson Poirot
2. Guilhem Guirado
3. Demba Bamba
4. Sébastien Vahaamahina
5. Félix Lambey
6. Yacouba Camara
7. Arthur Iturria
8. Louis Picamoles

Replacements
16. Pierre Bourgarit
17. Dany Priso
18. Dorian Aldegheri
19. Paul Willemse
20. Gregory Alldritt
21. Antoine Dupont
22. Romain Ntamack
23. Thomas Ramos


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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:17 pm

Sorry but Sinkler was utterly stupid there.

That costs games and world cup games if it's a yellow


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Post by king_carlos on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:17 pm

Incredibly stupid by Sinckler.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:18 pm

I like Sinckler, good player and in your face, doesn’t take it over the line though like now.

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Post by stub on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:18 pm

What a naughty boy Sinckler!

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Post by EnglishReign on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:18 pm

Well said Nige

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Post by Scottrf on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:18 pm

@collapse, that happened after he was tackled, you can’t use the play after the offence to judge the penalty.

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Post by Duty281 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:19 pm

Kyle Sinckler has this stupid streak in him. Not the first time, needs to curb it, because he's a fine player. Nige should have binned him.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:19 pm

More clear cut yellow for Sinkler. Not a goid day at the office for owens.

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Post by RDW on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:19 pm

Patronising slap on the head? Talking pish Dellaglio! It was a pretty hefty slap and grab. Lucky not to get a yellow.

So completely needless by Sinkler though!

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:20 pm

Scottrf wrote:@collapse, that happened after he was tackled, you can’t use the play after the offence to judge the penalty.

No it didnt. Fairly easy to see Ashton miss the kick forward before he is tackled on the replay.


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Post by stub on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:20 pm

Try number 6?

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Post by Scottrf on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:21 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:@collapse, that happened after he was tackled, you can’t use the play after the offence to judge the penalty.

No it didnt.
Did though. Who cares anyway, this is an absolute demolition.

I do agree that's stupid and should be a yellow for Sinckler though.


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Post by Duty281 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:21 pm

Superb awareness from Ben Youngs.

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Post by king_carlos on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:22 pm

RDW wrote:Patronising slap on the head? Talking pish Dellaglio! It was a pretty hefty slap and grab. Lucky not to get a yellow.

So completely needless by Sinkler though!

In a different match that is a yellow that could cost the game.

Sinckler is a lucky boy in several ways.

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Post by Rugby Fan on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:22 pm

Feels like 10 minutes left but it's still 25 to go

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Post by robbo277 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:22 pm

Silly by Sinckler, but I think just a penalty was the right call.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:23 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:@collapse, that happened after he was tackled, you can’t use the play after the offence to judge the penalty.

No it didnt.
Did though. Who cares anyway, this is an absolute demolition.

I do agree that's stupid and should be a yellow for Sinckler though.

Scott he missed the kick then was tackled.


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Post by Heaf on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:23 pm

Sinckler needs to learn or stop getting picked ...

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Post by Duty281 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:24 pm

Crikey, six tries! Wish the Welsh game was next week.

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Post by lostinwales on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:24 pm

Balances out - the French 3 could have gone off for 10 minutes for that high tackle

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Post by stub on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:24 pm

Yep, like Sinckler but he needs to control himself.

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Post by robbo277 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:24 pm

Heaf wrote:Sinckler needs to learn or stop getting picked ...

He's still by far and away our best tight head.

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Post by Scottrf on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:25 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:@collapse, that happened after he was tackled, you can’t use the play after the offence to judge the penalty.

No it didnt.
Did though. Who cares anyway, this is an absolute demolition.

I do agree that's stupid and should be a yellow for Sinckler though.

Scott he missed the kick then was tackled.

Yes but he didn't overrun it until he was tackled.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:26 pm

Ok we'll agree to disagree.

If that was given against England I'd be pretty peeved...

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Post by No9 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:26 pm

Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

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Post by Heaf on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:26 pm

robbo277 wrote:
Heaf wrote:Sinckler needs to learn or stop getting picked ...

He's still by far and away our best tight head.

Maybe but no good if he's sitting on the naught step ...

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Post by EnglishReign on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:27 pm

It was clearly off the French fist

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Post by stub on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:28 pm

Great by Lawes

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:29 pm

Great hit by Lawes.

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Post by No9 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:29 pm

EnglishReign wrote:It was clearly off the French fist

I looked again, and played in slow time... clearly off the English wrist... no off French player at all...

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Post by king_carlos on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:30 pm

This is getting scrappier and scrappier now. A few silly moments creeping in around the rucks as players get frustrated.

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Post by EnglishReign on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:30 pm

Still 20 to go haha

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Post by stub on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:30 pm

Fabulous scrum.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:31 pm

No9 wrote:Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

Owens has been dreadful today

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Post by king_carlos on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:31 pm

stub wrote:Fabulous scrum.

There's what Moon and Cole offer...

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Post by Duty281 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:31 pm

For what it's worth, England's largest victory margin over France is 37 points (in 1911!).

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Post by Scottrf on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:32 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:
No9 wrote:Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

Owens has been dreadful today
If the French coach had reffed England would still be well ahead.

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Post by Heaf on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:32 pm

Line-out not great today ...

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Post by lostinwales on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:32 pm

No9 wrote:Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

Use both eyes. The holding back is more debatable, but with both players on the ground it isn't clear. The officials all saw it though

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Post by No9 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:32 pm

That TMO call was as bad as the one against Wales last year. There’s no excuse with the technology they have...when you can see it’s easily on a sky box.. Shocked

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Post by stub on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:33 pm

Well said Scott!

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:35 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:
No9 wrote:Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

Owens has been dreadful today
If the French coach had reffed England would still be well ahead.

Exactly so England dont really need the help

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:36 pm

No Robson again.

Shame Owens didn't have a look at the punch thrown at Farrell admittedly but again most decisions have been correct.

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Post by Scottrf on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:36 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:No Robson again.

Yeah this is one of the major problems I've had with Jones. So reliant on Youngs.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:37 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:
No9 wrote:Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

Owens has been dreadful today

Worse than Ireland’s favourite son Barnes?

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Post by stub on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:38 pm

That’s right 7.5,.

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Post by LondonTiger on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:38 pm

Jones should have brought Robson on by now

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:38 pm

No9 wrote:That TMO call was as bad as the one against Wales last year. There’s no excuse with the technology they have...when you can see it’s easily on a sky box.. Shocked

A good point here. I felt Wales were let down three times last year with incorrect TMO calls, and two already this year.

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Post by No9 on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:39 pm

lostinwales wrote:
No9 wrote:Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

Use both eyes. The holding back is more debatable, but with both players on the ground it isn't clear. The officials all saw it though

Suggest you OPEN your eyes.. knock on... but not going to change anything..

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Post by Scottrf on Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:39 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
No9 wrote:That TMO call was as bad as the one against Wales last year. There’s no excuse with the technology they have...when you can see it’s easily on a sky box.. Shocked

A good point here. I felt Wales were let down three times last year with incorrect TMO calls, and two already this year.

And that's definitely the important point to make on an England vs France thread.

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