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Post by Afro on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 4:12 pm

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Welcome to the FIFA Challenge League




Game uses FIFA 19 version as at 10/01/2019
https://sofifa.com/?v=19&e=159334&set=true

Week 20
Cambridge v Morecambe
Macclesfield v Forest Green
Exeter v Grimsby
Crewe v Carlisle
Lincoln v Mansfield
Colchester v Cheltenham

Match - week to be confirmed
Mansfield v Macclesfield




Links

https://www.twitch.tv/hero606v2

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rzMxThEbVCIiOq_gKOmMqH7WgcsIpYxleuPOWIzg-4Q/edit?usp=sharing

Team_________Manager
Cambridge Utd_________Dolph
Carlisle United_________Fluxy
Cheltenham Town_________Twist
Colchester_________Azzy
Crewe Alexandra_________Nads
Exeter City_________Trebs
Forest Green_________TAB
Grimsby Town_________Fernando
Lincoln City_________Bam
Macclesfield_________Hero
Mansfield Town_________Rof
Morecambe_________Afro


Matches_________Transfers_________Other
Fixtures_________Lawyers_________Rules
Table_________Foreigns_________Press Conferences
Injuries_________Releases_________
Tactics_________Confirmation_________
Results__________________
Cards__________________


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Post by Azzy on Thu 16 May 2019, 1:19 pm

When is the current season projected to end, can anyone work out a rough estimate?

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Post by Afro on Thu 16 May 2019, 1:32 pm

There are 7 more rounds of fixtures after the current one, so assuming the current round is completed on Monday, the last week would finish around mid-July
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Post by Azzy on Thu 16 May 2019, 3:02 pm

Then a nice summer break before we kick season two off with Fifa 20?

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Post by Afro on Thu 16 May 2019, 3:05 pm

Or enough time to fit another season where we play each other once before FIFA 20 comes out October time
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Post by Fluxy on Mon 20 May 2019, 10:07 am

Morning everyblobby!

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Post by TwisT on Mon 20 May 2019, 10:59 am

Morning. Any Hero update?

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon 20 May 2019, 2:54 pm

Don’t love anyone 3000

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Post by Fernando on Tue 21 May 2019, 12:46 pm

Is the league still going or we dead in the water

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Post by TwisT on Tue 21 May 2019, 12:50 pm

Waiting for Hero to tell us....hoping it is not dead.

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Post by Fernando on Wed 22 May 2019, 4:14 pm

Azzy, start the azzrentice for a bit since we're on a break clearly.

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Post by Azzy on Thu 23 May 2019, 10:53 am

I can easily start the Azzrentice, I don't have to actually do anything for it...apart from be hated by you all when I pick the wrong winner. So if you guys want to fill some time, please enter the Boardroom this way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.606v2.com/t68785-the-azzrentice-2019#3809240

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Post by Afro on Thu 23 May 2019, 1:22 pm

Azzy wrote:I can easily start the Azzrentice, I don't have to actually do anything for it...apart from be hated by you all when I pick the wrong winner. So if you guys want to fill some time, please enter the Boardroom this way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.606v2.com/t68785-the-azzrentice-2019#3809240

Well that killed the conversation!
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Post by Azzy on Thu 23 May 2019, 2:31 pm

Doesn't take much these days Sad

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Post by Fluxy on Tue 04 Jun 2019, 10:13 am

I miss this league already  rose

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Post by Afro on Tue 04 Jun 2019, 10:32 am

Shame as the league was really working. Just a lot of work on Hero's shoulders.

Anyone else got FIFA on XBox and willing to take over the games?

Ideally we would have a few people to spread the workload
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Post by Fluxy on Tue 04 Jun 2019, 11:57 am

I don't really want to put my hand up, but I could take a look and see what I could do.

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Post by TwisT on Tue 04 Jun 2019, 1:04 pm

Fluxy wrote:I miss this league already  rose

Snap. Those on FB chat has anyone asked Hero what's up? Is this him saying he doesn't want to do it anymore or is it just a break?

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Post by Azzy on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 2:56 pm

Afro wrote:Shame as the league was really working. Just a lot of work on Hero's shoulders.

Anyone else got FIFA on XBox and willing to take over the games?

Ideally we would have a few people to spread the workload
Until FIFA 19 is on EA Access, I can't oblige, but would happily once it's on there share the load with someone / some people.

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Post by Azzy on Fri 14 Jun 2019, 9:27 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48637239

You sexy little Jap heart heart heart

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Post by Trebs on Tue 02 Jul 2019, 1:52 pm

94/100
Annoyed with myself because the other six were gettable.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/quiz-how-many-100-most-expensive-premier-league-transfers-can-you-name

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Post by Azzy on Sun 21 Jul 2019, 8:11 am

BOOM!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49061594

Should have a big season ahead of him Smile

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Post by Fluxy on Sat 03 Aug 2019, 3:01 pm

Fluxy wrote:I don't really want to put my hand up, but I could take a look and see what I could do.

Afternoon gents, I appreciate that this post was a while ago - and I am getting through the busiest time of the year for myself at work - but I would be happy to try and look at hosting/playing the FIFA games, if there was still interest.

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Post by nadeem2099 on Mon 12 Aug 2019, 11:43 am

I'm still interested. But I'd like a reboot for FIFA 20. And I don't want to choose these lower league Poopie teams like Crewe again tbh.
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Post by Trebs on Mon 12 Aug 2019, 12:17 pm

For me we need to find a way of getting the fun of deals back. That takes precedence over whether it's tactics or fifa.

I did propose an idea for a league that didn't really get any traction, but if we could figure out an idea of loads of deals and fifa that would be awesome.

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Post by Azzy on Tue 13 Aug 2019, 1:22 pm

I'm down for whichever league we do - I just like doing a league Smile

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Post by Hero on Wed 14 Aug 2019, 12:58 pm

Hi everyone,

Very sorry for going AWOL, I think by now you all know the reason why, things haven't been great but getting through it. Hope all's well for you all.

Rich x

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Post by Afro on Wed 14 Aug 2019, 11:31 pm

Sorry to hear your news. Life has a tendency to throw these curve balls that can hit you like you wouldn’t expect.

You appear to have two great lads, and your a top bloke yourself, so this is now a new door opening for you both.

Take care of yourself fella Ok!
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Post by BamBam on Thu 15 Aug 2019, 9:48 am

Can only echo Afro's comments, look after yourself bud

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Post by Fluxy on Tue 27 Aug 2019, 12:49 pm

Mornin' Angle

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Post by Azzy on Thu 05 Sep 2019, 1:44 pm

How is everyone doing? Had a good summer?

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Post by Trebs on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 12:49 am

When's the new league starting? I've got to the stage where im stalking the Brexit and political boards, not daring to comment.


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Post by Afro on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 8:24 am

Im at the point where I’m posting. It’s a slippery slope....
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Post by Fluxy on Mon 23 Sep 2019, 8:50 am

I am contemplating getting the new Fifa...

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Post by Afro on Mon 23 Sep 2019, 9:07 am

Would be good to get it resurrected. For me, it was by far the best league to have been involved in. The biggest problem was that it required so much from a single person.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon 23 Sep 2019, 9:16 am

If I get the new FIFA, I could possibly take over. But I’m pretty skint so may have to wait till price drops

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Post by BamBam on Mon 23 Sep 2019, 12:12 pm

Unlikely to have time to really take part, but will be around for the chat

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Post by Trebs on Mon 23 Sep 2019, 12:21 pm

Afro wrote:Would be good to get it resurrected. For me, it was by far the best league to have been involved in. The biggest problem was that it required so much from a single person.

It's the deals side which needs sorting. Needs to be players we actually know rather than randomers and some way of forcing domestics.

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Post by Afro on Mon 23 Sep 2019, 4:11 pm

Trebs wrote:
Afro wrote:Would be good to get it resurrected. For me, it was by far the best league to have been involved in. The biggest problem was that it required so much from a single person.

It's the deals side which needs sorting. Needs to be players we actually know rather than randomers and some way of forcing domestics.

I don't think anyone would disagree with either. The idea of the Randomers was to start at a really low level and encourage a long lasting league. Didn't really work!!

In terms of forcing domestics, its the age old problem everyone has always agreed on, but we have never found the answer.
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Post by Hero on Mon 23 Sep 2019, 10:55 pm

Easiest way to do more domestics is for Trebs to not keep buying crap players so other people would want them Whistle

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Post by TwisT on Tue 24 Sep 2019, 9:26 am

Trebs wrote:
Afro wrote:Would be good to get it resurrected. For me, it was by far the best league to have been involved in. The biggest problem was that it required so much from a single person.

It's the deals side which needs sorting. Needs to be players we actually know rather than randomers and some way of forcing domestics.

Ah ha! Good to see all you people alive and well.

I had a thought about this over the summer as thought it might come up

Adding a 10% agents fee to foreign transfers which doesn't apply to domestics. In addition to this is that the agents fee then goes in a pot that you can only use for domestic transfers. So buying a 1m players actually costs you 1.1m as a transfer. This agent fee is put into a separate pot for you, so you have 100k to use towards a domestic. So really nothing changes......in reality you are still buying a 1m player for 1m, but now it is forcing you to allocate 100k in a domestic transfer only pot.

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Post by Afro on Tue 24 Sep 2019, 9:35 am

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Trebs wrote:
Afro wrote:Would be good to get it resurrected. For me, it was by far the best league to have been involved in. The biggest problem was that it required so much from a single person.

It's the deals side which needs sorting. Needs to be players we actually know rather than randomers and some way of forcing domestics.

Ah ha! Good to see all you people alive and well.

I had a thought about this over the summer as thought it might come up

Adding a 10% agents fee to foreign transfers which doesn't apply to domestics. In addition to this is that the agents fee then goes in a pot that you can only use for domestic transfers. So buying a 1m players actually costs you 1.1m as a transfer. This agent fee is put into a separate pot for you, so you have 100k to use towards a domestic. So really nothing changes......in reality you are still buying a 1m player for 1m, but now it is forcing you to allocate 100k in a domestic transfer only pot.

That would be worth a try, although playing Devil's advocate, people already have enough trouble keeping a budget up to date without adding an extra pot. But it is worth trying.

The biggest difficulty with domestics is that the selling manager will judge how much he needs to sell for to be able to replace with better in foreigns, so adds a premium. The buying manager then goes and buys from foreigns instead. So perhaps a cap on domestics prices, such as +10% of TM value

I think a successful league will be one with a smallish number of managers
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Post by Fluxy on Tue 24 Sep 2019, 11:35 am

You cannot force domestic transfers. Perhaps by having transfer windows you may, it worked relatively well in the old rugby leagues. But domestic transfer won't occur regularly.

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Post by Afro on Tue 24 Sep 2019, 12:05 pm

Fluxy wrote:You cannot force domestic transfers. Perhaps by having transfer windows you may, it worked relatively well in the old rugby leagues. But domestic transfer won't occur regularly.

You can encourage them though. If you had a pot that could only be used on domestics, then you might be encouraged to sell to put money in the non-domestic pot towards a foreign
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Post by Azzy on Tue 24 Sep 2019, 3:31 pm

I did more domestics than any other manager in this league - but I also have no issue with people who didn't do any. There's what, 250 players active in this league at any one time, but about 250,000 in world football? Why force domestics when there's tons of players we can buy?

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Post by TwisT on Tue 24 Sep 2019, 3:44 pm

I have no issue at all, but i think the problem arises that no domestics means the league losing activity. You end up doing your foreigns when it opens on a certain day and submit tactics on another day, but see no reason to be on the site at any other time.

I am not precious over that but i think there is a connection to that kind of mentality and leagues dying. You could argue though that is all you need to do.......you are still taking part in the important bits.

I do enjoy the dealing side of the league though. I thought the rough idea of a budget and then a proportion of that which can only be used on domestics could help


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Post by Afro on Tue 24 Sep 2019, 4:04 pm

I think Domestics make for a more enjoyable game when their is a prospect of a deal. They should be enocouraged so that it doesn't just become a treadmill of accept lawyer, buy foreign, wait a week, repeat
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Post by Trebs on Tue 24 Sep 2019, 10:48 pm

That's the problem.
People think their own players will get a tm value rise and will hold onto them till that happens. My locked values idea would have worked if it was permanent but I couldn't get that through.

What about starting with the bottom 8/10 premier league sides as a starting point. Can we agree on that?

I still like my league idea Sad
Can we combine that with fifa perhaps? Straight knockout tournament with 8 teams maybe?

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Post by Trebs on Tue 24 Sep 2019, 10:48 pm

Hero wrote:Easiest way to do more domestics is for Trebs to not keep buying crap players so other people would want them Whistle

Hey, Tom Cleverley has been brilliant for Watford this season.

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Post by Hero on Wed 25 Sep 2019, 12:37 pm

The issue always is as well with a domestic compared to a foreign is that you're having to negotiate and that often the seller wants more than you value that player at, whilst with a foreign you know from the off how much the player will be.
There's no haggling, there's no overpaying, simple clean transaction and you come away not feeling you've lost face.

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Post by Hero on Wed 25 Sep 2019, 12:41 pm

The way to address this in simple terms is to even them out, make the process the same for both domestics and foreigns.

So you either remove the haggling element from domestics, all players have a buy out clause.
Or to add a random haggling element to foreigns, how that is done I don't have the answer to.

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