England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

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England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by BigGee on Sun 10 Mar 2019, 6:43 pm

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England v Scotland
6N Round 5
Saturday 16th March
Twickenham Stadium
London

KO 17.00

Well here we are at the final round of matches and three teams can still come out on top following Ireland's demolition of France this afternoon.

England have the advantage of playing last and will know what they have to do, if Wales have not already wrapped it up with a Grand Slam earlier in the afternoon. That actually might be Scotland's best chance of getting anything out of this game if England get distracted about what is going on else where, particularly if they find playing for second spot a distraction, knowing Wales have already wrapped things up.

On paper, this is only going to be an English win, the only question being by how much.

Scotland have had an awful championship, where just about everything that could have gone wrong. They are only playing for pride, but history tells us that sides that are done at this stage in the competition, rarely have anything left in the tank for the final game.

It is not as if Scotland have any form at Twickenham either, we have not won there since 1983 (did I ever mention that I was there!). We had had a crap season and no-one gave us much of a chance that year either if I remember, then the following year we won the GS. Can I see that happening this time though?

Only in my dreams!

So what do both sides hope to get from the game?

England clearly want a BP victory, some revenge for last year and hopefully a championship. They would also like to show the continued emergence of such players as Cockanasiga, who could be pivotal to them doing well in the WC.

Scotland, despite whatever spin they put on the game, might just be happy with a decent performance and continued development of some of our young starlets. We took another pile of injuries this weekend and getting a half decent competitive side onto the pitch is going to be a challenge in itself. Still, this exposure might be the making of young Hastings, Bradbury, Graham, McDowell, Skinner, Ritchie and anyone else who gets to play, down the line.

Test rugby is a hard old place to earn your living and they will likely be finding that out next weekend.



England


Daly, Nowell, Slade, Tuilagi, May; Farrell, Youngs; Moon, George, Sinckler, Launchbury, Kruis, Wilson, Curry, B Vunipola.

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Genge, Cole, Shields, Hughes, Spencer, Ford, Te'o



Scotland:

Maitland; Graham, Grigg, Johnson, McGuigan; Russell, Price; Dell, McInally (capt), Nel; Toolis, Gilchrist; Skinner, Watson, Bradbury.

Replacements: Brown, Reid, Berghan, J Gray, Strauss, Laidlaw, Hastings, Harris


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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:36 pm

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by NeilyBroon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:37 pm

Well i dunno what to make of this. That's quite the implosion from England...

I'll take a draw happily frankly, though it begs the question, why haven't we played like this all tournament??
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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:37 pm

Right on cue.

Now settle down and get back to the game plan...and do the flippin basics right.

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by Heaf on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:38 pm

The ref does realise the ball has to go forwards for a knock on doesn't he?

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by sensisball on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:38 pm

Unfortunately Jones has leart from his mistake in Cardiff and has taken Farrell off.

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by TightHEAD on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:40 pm

Who put the tv on at halftime in The changing room, clearly they found out Wales had won
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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by mid_gen on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:41 pm

Our kicking game is so so poor. Finally Youngs is off!

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by tigertattie on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:43 pm

Jeebus
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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by Eejit on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:43 pm

Saaaammmmyyyy

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:43 pm

Utterly appalling

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by NeilyBroon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:43 pm

I nearly had a heart attack there!
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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by RDW on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:43 pm

Aaaaaahhhhh!!!!!

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by sensisball on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:43 pm

Have i just entered a parallel universe!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:44 pm

Scotland will win this and we will never hear the end of this ever....

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by BigGee on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:44 pm

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by Heaf on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:44 pm

Cole turnover looked OK to me ...

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:44 pm

Oh wow...

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by mid_gen on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:45 pm

Good grief. That tackling.

Speechless.

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:45 pm

Heaf wrote:Cole turnover looked OK to me ...

Yeah it did to me also.

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by sensisball on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:45 pm

Yes i have!!!!!!!

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by whocares on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:45 pm

I tuned off when England was 31-0 up to let the wife watch some house hunting program . Just tuned back in and am really wondering if am not in the f...ing twilight zone !
UNBELIEVABLE come back

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm

Utterly embarrassing

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by mid_gen on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm

This has comfortably been the most appalling 40 minutes I've ever seen from England at Twickenham.

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by whocares on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm

Choke of the century

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm

Has to be up there as a greatest comeback in history?

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by Heaf on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm

Well that's the most bizarre thing ever ...

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by BigGee on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:51 pm

A draw, it is like kissing your sister

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:51 pm

Wow

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by RDW on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:51 pm

What a ridiculous game

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by sensisball on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:51 pm

should have allowed the try in the corner.

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:51 pm

An exciting draw.

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by tigertattie on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:52 pm

#MoralVictory
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Post by Eejit on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:52 pm

That was completely mad.

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by Duty281 on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:52 pm

When England are good, they are scintillating. When England are bad, they are fecking awful. An inability to play the full 80 has cost them this tournament, and is the biggest worry ahead of the World Cup.


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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:52 pm

Draw fair result

England dominated first half
Scotland dominated second half

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by NeilyBroon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:52 pm

So do Scotland keep the cup?
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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by Brendan on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:52 pm

I think part of the problem is the motivation was gone.

Till Scotland have done well.

Is the 6 Nations Ireland and England getting worse or Wales and Scotland improved

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by The Great Aukster on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:53 pm

Shocker from the ref there, but that was the proverbial game of two halves.

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:53 pm

Duty281 wrote:When England are good, they are scintillating. When England are bad, they are fecking awful. An inability to play the full 80 has cost them this tournament, and is the biggest worry ahead of the World Cup.


Totally agree mate

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by RDW on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:53 pm

We were saying let them score in the corner - much more difficult kick!

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by NeilyBroon on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:53 pm

Eddie Jones face is priceless
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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by whocares on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:53 pm

sensisball wrote:should have allowed the try in the corner.

Thought the same thing . Still you retain the Calcutta cup .

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by majesticimperialman on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:54 pm

Well never in my born days did i expect a draw today. i actualy thought England would win at a canter. But well played to Scotland for fighting back and almost, almost winninhg the game....Great game from both teams.

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by Heaf on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:54 pm

Phew - saved a draw at least - never seen anything like this before ...

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:55 pm

RDW wrote:We were saying let them score in the corner - much more difficult kick!

I thought that when Nowell was going for the corner.

Great finish from Ford. He gave us an injection of something once he replaced Farrell. One of the worse performances I can remember from Farrell.

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by BigGee on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:56 pm

You know what I was saying about Toonie losing the dressing room!

I take it back!

He can certainly do a half time talk!

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by EnglishReign on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:57 pm

Probably got ptsd from that game

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by Barney McGrew did it on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:59 pm

Some of the worst rugby I have seen from England. How they managed to scrape a draw...!? I feel for Scotland.

For the RWC England have a problem - and a lot of it is in their collective heads.
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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by Heaf on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 6:59 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
RDW wrote:We were saying let them score in the corner - much more difficult kick!

I thought that when Nowell was going for the corner.

Great finish from Ford. He gave us an injection of something once he replaced Farrell. One of the worse performances I can remember from Farrell.

Yep - 2 tries given away needlessly ... I also still think his cross-kick at the end of the 1st half against Wales may have cost that game too.

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Re: England v Scotland 6N Round 5 Saturday 16th March

Post by George Carlin on Sat 16 Mar 2019, 7:00 pm

So what did I miss?
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