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Post by LondonTiger on Wed 03 Apr 2019, 11:08 am

First topic message reminder :

Table
England 2pts (+2.08nrr)
Afghanistan
Australia
Bangladesh
India
New Zealand
Pakistan
Sri Lanka
West Indies
South Africa 0pts (-2.08 nrr)


Pool Fixtures

Thu, May 30 
10:30 England vs South Africa  (The Oval)

Fri, May 31 
10:30 West Indies vs Pakistan (Trent Bridge)

Sat, Jun 1 
10:30 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka (Cardiff)
13:30 Afghanistan vs Australia (Bristol)

Sun, Jun 2 
10:30 South Africa vs Bangladesh (The Oval)

Mon, Jun 3 
10:30 England vs Pakistan (Trent Bridge)

Tue, Jun 4 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka (Cardiff)

Wed, Jun 5 
10:30 South Africa vs India (Southampton)
13:30 Bangladesh vs New Zealand (The Oval)

Thu, Jun 6 
10:30 Australia vs West Indies (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 7 
10:30 Pakistan vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)

Sat, Jun 8 
10:30 England vs Bangladesh (Cardiff)
13:30 Afghanistan vs New Zealand (Taunton)

Sun, Jun 9 
10:30 Australia vs India (The Oval)

Mon, Jun 10 
10:30 South Africa vs West Indies (Southampton)

Tue, Jun 11 
10:30 Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)

Wed, Jun 12 
10:30 Australia vs Pakistan (Taunton)

Thu, Jun 13 
10:30 India vs New Zealand (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 14 
10:30 England vs West Indies (Southampton)

Sat, Jun 15 
10:30 Australia vs Sri Lanka (The Oval)
13:30 Afghanistan vs South Africa (Cardiff)

Sun, Jun 16 
10:30 India vs Pakistan (Old Trafford)

Mon, Jun 17 
10:30 Bangladesh vs West Indies (Taunton)

Tue, Jun 18 
10:30 England vs Afghanistan (Old Trafford)

Wed, Jun 19 
10:30 New Zealand vs South Africa (Edgbaston)

Thu, Jun 20 
10:30 Australia vs Bangladesh (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 21 
10:30 England vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)

Sat, Jun 22 
10:30 Afghanistan vs India (Southampton)
13:30 New Zealand vs West Indies (Old Trafford)

Sun, Jun 23 
10:30 Pakistan vs South Africa (Lord’s)

Mon, Jun 24 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Bangladesh (Southampton)

Tue, Jun 25 
10:30 England vs Australia (Lord’s)

Wed, Jun 26 
10:30 New Zealand vs Pakistan (Edgbaston)

Thu, Jun 27 
10:30 India vs West Indies (Old Trafford)

Fri, Jun 28 
10:30 South Africa vs Sri Lanka (Edgbaston)

Sat, Jun 29 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Pakistan (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs New Zealand (Lord’s)

Sun, Jun 30 
10:30 England vs India (Edgbaston)

Mon, Jul 1 
10:30 Sri Lanka vs West Indies (Riverside Ground)

Tue, Jul 2 
10:30 Bangladesh vs India (Edgbaston)

Wed, Jul 3 
10:30 England vs New Zealand (Riverside Ground)

Thu, Jul 4 
10:30 Afghanistan vs West Indies (Headingley)

Fri, Jul 5 
10:30 Bangladesh vs Pakistan (Lord’s)

Sat, Jul 6 
10:30 India vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs South Africa (Old Trafford)




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Post by king_carlos on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 3:59 pm

Looks like Warner called through the second to me. Finch was fuming!

Warner isn't timing anything out there, unusual for that to be the case after 15 overs.

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Post by AlciG on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 4:00 pm

Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:Finch runs himself out 61-1

All Warner's fault

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 4:05 pm

AlciG wrote:
Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:Finch runs himself out 61-1

All Warner's fault
Finch was hesitating. Jadhav is one if India’s weaker fielder, dodgy shoulder and a wicket keeper

Had finch gone straightaway he’d have made it easy

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Post by JDizzle on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 4:47 pm

Terrible innings from Warner really.

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Post by Gooseberry on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 5:25 pm

It does feel like aus have settled for protecting their NRR over winning knowing they are well set for a top 4 place thanks to Pakistan SL being rained off.

In Warners case its perhaps cos of his dodgy form and desire to just get some runs under his belt

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 5:35 pm

202-3 Khawaja gone for 42, Bumrah far too good to be playing paddle shots against

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Post by Gooseberry on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 5:41 pm

Going South very quickly now. I guess this makes India number one in the power rankings

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Post by king_carlos on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 5:44 pm

It's still doable from here but only if Maxwell really comes off.

It's been an odd innings from Aus. Losing Finch when they did really stalled the innings for a long time.

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Post by Duty281 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 5:45 pm

Australia still in this. India need wickets. RRR just under 11 with 11 overs left. If one or both of Maxwell and Smith can bat through, it could get very close.

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Post by guildfordbat on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 5:46 pm

Duty281 wrote:Australia still in this. India need wickets. RRR just under 11 with 11 overs left. If one or both of Maxwell and Smith can bat through, it could get very close.

Totally agree.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 5:49 pm

Think this is gone for India. Smith is batting as well as he ever does and Maxwell seems to have one of those days.

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Post by Duty281 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 5:50 pm

Good jinx MSP. Another poor decision reversed by DRS and Smith goes.

And Stonis bowled for a duck. That probably is that for Australia.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 5:56 pm

Just when I was about to type India may be missing Shami, Bhuvi produces a double wicket over. Smith gone to an excellent review from Kohli, and then Stoinis gone bowled 2nd ball.

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Post by guildfordbat on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 5:59 pm

Maxwell also now gone and so surely have Australia's hopes.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:00 pm

Lol at anyone thinking the Aussies were anywhere near winning or being in control of this - Warner’s innings absolutely slaughtered their hopes, and they don’t have anyone who can hit decently at a ground as big as The Oval beyond Maxwell who comes off once every 50 innings
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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:02 pm

So Australia's latest batting sensation is out there with yet another rescue job on hand as Chahal gets Maxwell.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:12 pm

Australia still fighting. Carey is giving it his all. And they need 84 of 42, not at all impossible in the T-20 era. Even handy 10s and 15s from Cummins and Starc along with Karey and NCN can still produce a miracle for Australia.
This team is something, come the World Cup, they just become a side transformed. Today is tough for them, but the way they pick their game up for the big games, is just superb.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:16 pm

Carey still believes he can win it for Australia, even Bumrah is getting some tap. India need to get him soon.

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Post by Duty281 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:24 pm

Carey's playing a strong innings, but the top order have left him too much to do.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:28 pm

This man Carey, the fellow can really bat. Perhaps they should bat him ahead of Stoinis. He started the fightback against the West Indies, and he's still at it against India.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:31 pm

Australia need 53 of 18. Carey is still there, but he doesn't have much company. Starc can swing it, and if he and Carey make the next over a real big one, then perhaps... 5 of the first 2 balls...

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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:32 pm

Bumrah has taken 3 wickets, but not his best day still. Going for a few too many boundaries than usual...

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Post by dummy_half on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:34 pm

The thing with the bails is ridiculous - while the others I've seen have been very gentle contacts, the Warner one gave the wickets a pretty good whack at the base of leg stump, and you could see from Warner's reaction that he was amazed the bails didn't dislodge.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:39 pm

Bumrah finishes with an excellent over. Showed off a few of his tricks, and this time Carey had no clue.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:41 pm

Yes, they really need to do something about the stupid bails. Life is already unfair to the bowler, and on top of it there shouldn't be such torcher.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:46 pm

Comfortable win for India in the end. Bumrah and Bhuvi showing their class in the end, both picking up 3 wickets each. Bhuvi has had issues in recent times and Shami had overtaken him in terms of bowling though not by much. But the all-round package that Bhuvi brings helped him get ahead. He needed a good bowling performance though to back it up, and today he bowled the most decisive over that clearly swung the game for India.

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:50 pm

Indian bowlers showed a lot of skill...starting with the wrist spinners, who tied Aussies in knots even if they did not take a buckeful of wickets.....like they did in last game...because there wasn't even half of the  help available.

But the star skillful bowler of the days was Bhuvi.....he was able to get a bit of skiddy reverse....and Kohli missed a trick by taking him off after his double-strike over.

Bhuvi could have run through them...Bhuvi has grabbed the opportunity ahead of shami with both hands.....high on pace, excellent control, the only one to get some kind of seam movement with the new and old ball in the game today.....and a lot of variations.

Kohli's other mistake was taking Carey for granted,...thinking match was in the pocket and before they relaized he had run away.


A small applause for Pandya....didn't have wickets to show against his name....but bowled with a lot of fire and aggression and kept coming at the batsmen with variations.


next game we want Kuldeep & Pandya to get some wickets to show for their efforts
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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:54 pm

Kuldeep Yadav had another not so impressive game. is it time to give him a bit of time off and bring in Jadeja? Or Shami?
Unless there is spin on the next pitch, think Kohli should do that. If it doesn't spin much, then go for Shami. If it is likely to spin, then Jadeja, or give Kuldeep one more opportunity, because if he's on song, he's certainly a match-winner.
He surely is struggling though, and its been so since the IPL itself.

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 6:59 pm

msp83 wrote:Kuldeep Yadav had another not so impressive game. is it time to give him a bit of time off and bring in Jadeja? Or Shami?
Unless there is spin on the next pitch, think Kohli should do that. If it doesn't spin much, then go for Shami. If it is likely to spin, then Jadeja, or give Kuldeep one more opportunity, because if he's on song, he's certainly a match-winner.
He surely is struggling though, and its been so since the IPL itself.

Naah...in my view having two writs spinners is India's diffrentator.....you have to look at him not relative to Chahl but..... how the opposition spinner performed on the pitch.....and he was better than Zampa and Tahir & Tabraiz

and two wrist spinners in tandem makes Chahl more effective
I think its a matter of time before he picks a bucketful of wickets in the coming tow or three games


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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 7:03 pm

Kuldeep's role is to take middle order wickets. He is starting to struggle a bit on that front. It is his wicket taking abilities in the middle overs that got him ahead of Jadeja and R Ashwin it should be remembered.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 7:13 pm

Not too many spinners, of whichever kind, is not expected to really run through the Indian batting lineup regularly. Kuldeep, regardless of his recent struggles, is in any case is miles ahead of someone like Shamsi. So performing better than Shamsi shouldn't be the yardstick we should assess Kuldeep by.
I wouldn't be inclined to drop him yet, but Kuldeep is a bit of a concern going ahead. And we do have options in Jadeja and Shami, with the former adding to the batting too, besides his electric fielding abilities that he showed off as a sub even today. But Kohli has suggested that Shami would play only when conditions really demand that. So 2 rist spinners indeed is the way he seems to be thinking, though you never can completely trust Virat with selections, he might pick Shami for Jadhav next game afterall!

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 7:13 pm

msp83 wrote:Kuldeep's role is to take middle order wickets. He is starting to struggle a bit on that front. It is his wicket taking abilities in the middle overs that got him ahead of Jadeja and R Ashwin it should be remembered.

on this pitch Jadeja would have done worse and with Jadeja as his spin partner.....Chahl may not have performed either
Batsmen are struggling against Kuldeeep relative to the pitch and performance of other bowlers on both sides

Have patience a BIG bagful of wickets awaits him in one of next 2 or 3 games
Shami will come in only if conditions are extremely seam friendly one day

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Post by JDizzle on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 7:29 pm

I thought Kuldeep bowled pretty well from what I saw today. I am sure the wickets will come - would definitely be a mistake in my book to replace him with Jadeja. But the make takeaway is that if India's batting can keep getting off to start's like that and putting up big totals, with their bowling attack they are going to be very tough to beat. Aus needed early wickets from Starc and Cummins and when they didn't get them it was all India.

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Post by VTR on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 9:30 pm

Aussies were never going to chase that. Don't think they are as great as some on here make out, support bowling is pretty average and some of the batsmen aren't great. Heavily reliant on Starc and Cummins to fire. Admittedly not bad players to have, not sure what the plan after that is though

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Post by KP_fan on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 6:52 am

https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/india-vs-australia-cricket-adam-zampas-hand-warmers-reignite-ball-tampering-stir-as-twitter-explodes-after-suspicious-video-2179299.html?ref=hp_top_pos_7

Zampa has been seen engaging in a suspicious activity....putting his hand inside his pocket on to something and rubbing it on the ball
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Post by msp83 on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 8:20 am

There indeed is some talk around Zampa! Would they be so foolish after all that has happened?

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Post by msp83 on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 8:29 am

That brings me to Smith/Warner. Justin Langer called for crowd to leave them alone. India skipper Virat Kohli told off the Indian fans for booing and calling Smith a cheater. It is nice at a larger level what Virat did. But he should remember his own experience in Australia during the last tour. He is not a cheat like Smith or Warner, but he got booed for no reason regularly during the test series, particularly after India started competing hard on the field and though some former players came out against the same, didn't see any current Australian player telling the crowd off like Virat did here. And we all remember what they did tu Stuart Broad don't we? And if it was a non-Australian player who would have done what Smith and Warner did, would the Australian public and media ever let them forget it?
Think Virat needn't go either way, he should just mind his business...
And probably the crowd should let it go, the continued booing might eventually act as an inspiration for Smith and Warner...

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Post by KP_fan on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 8:45 am

msp83 wrote:That brings me to Smith/Warner. Justin Langer called for crowd to leave them alone. India skipper Virat Kohli told off the Indian fans for booing and calling Smith a cheater. It is nice at a larger level what Virat did. But he should remember his own experience in Australia during the last tour. He is not a cheat like Smith or Warner, but he got booed for no reason regularly during the test series, particularly after India started competing hard on the field and though some former players came out against the same, didn't see any current Australian player telling the crowd off like Virat did here. And we all remember what they did tu Stuart Broad don't we? And if it was a non-Australian player who would have done what Smith and Warner did, would the Australian public and media ever let them forget it?
Think Virat needn't go either way, he should just mind his business...
And probably the crowd should let it go, the continued booing might eventually act as an inspiration for Smith and Warner...

Ha ha
"One guy" on this forum will tell us all now

"Kohli& Dhoni are supporting Smith.....Look I told you it's an Indo-Australian conspiracy ( with hidden Russian hand) to troll England & deny them front-runner tag" Smile Smile

As he has already told us all.....that Aussie could not chase it yesterday because they are mediocre ( an not because they ran into a solid opponent)
& in the same breath won't hesitate pointing out " Look how Eng are title favorites because they beat the day-light out of a hapless Bangladesh on far-away-small-ground-on-a pitch-that suited-Eng&-blunted-BD"
Cool


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Post by Duty281 on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 9:41 am

Potentially interesting encounter between South Africa and the West Indies looks set to be shortened by the rain. Seems it'll be 50-50 as to whether a completed game is played.

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Post by VTR on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 10:12 am

Thanks for making the post I wasn't ever going to make KP Fan. Think you need to look at the utter garbage you spout at times before calling out others.

Anyway, back in the real world of actual cricket, we could be looking at three or four days of rain ruined/DLS lottery games

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Post by Duty281 on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 10:26 am

Windies fielding first. Huge advantage for them if the game does get shortened, as looks likely, although Andre Russell is out of this game because of injury.

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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 10:33 am

This has all the feelings of a no result game.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 10:37 am

Umpire just guessed there
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Post by Duty281 on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 10:45 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Umpire just guessed there

I really think technology should do all the work now. Umpiring standards have sharply declined over the past few years.

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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 10:48 am

Duty281 wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Umpire just guessed there

I really think technology should do all the work now. Umpiring standards have sharply declined over the past few years.
 
As we hark back to the days of Awful Taufel Sad

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Post by Gooseberry on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 10:50 am

If it does get no resulted then that really narrows the competition for top 4 spots. We all kinda knew from day 1 the big 3 should make it but with new zelands strong start as well it does look pretty sealed unless Pakistan or the Windies can make a sudden charge.
Having games rained off makes that less likely.
I'm rooting for windies ...they are the most entertaining team at the cup.

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Post by Gooseberry on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 10:56 am

Going back to Zampa the statement is that he has hand warmers in his pockets and has done for every game. It's a plausible reason.

This isnt like when Atherton was caught bang to rights with sand.

In terms of Kholi...yes the Aussies cant complain about booing given their history ( I'm remembering the injured Simon Jones being spat on) but you wont make a positive change to a global culture using the " well they started it" approach.
It's very big of him and absolutely the spirit of the sport. He wants to play the sport on the field I a competitive fair but gentile way. Thats not a bad thing


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Post by Duty281 on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 11:04 am

https://www.accuweather.com/en/gb/southampton/so14-7/minute-weather-forecast/330732

The great rain is coming.

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Post by VTR on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 11:06 am

I'm all for rain if it means we don't have to see that stupid salute again!

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Post by Duty281 on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 11:13 am

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