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Post by BigGee on Sun 19 May 2019, 3:08 pm

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Glasgow Warriors v Leinster
Pro14 Playoff Final
Celtic Park
Glasgow

25th May 2019
KO 18.30

Live on Premier Sports

Well the last game of the season for the Pro14 and I don't think many people will disagree with the fact that the two best teams in the league are meeting each other in the final.

The Ladyboys from Dublin, who think that winning trophies is their birth right and have a trophy cabinet back home which kind of suggests that they might be right, against the Mighty Glasgow Warriors, who may not get the chance of another home final in a citadel of Glaswegian sport, for a long long time.

History suggests Leinster for another win and the bookies, always good judges of these sorts of things would concur. However Glasgow have been in sparkling form ever since their spanking by Sarries in the Euro quarters. Rather than depress them, it seems to have inspired them and they have gone on quite a run since then, dispatching Ulster, Leinster (in Dublin), Edinburgh and finally dishing out a hammering to Ulster, the like of which no one really saw coming, in their semi final. They are on form, are confident and are playing some sparkling rugby.

Leinster, it is probably fair to say, a bit like Ireland this season, have not quite been firing on all cylinders. They to received a lesson from Sarries in the Euro finals and can no longer claim to be the best in Europe. Still despite that, they are still grinding out the results. Munster threw the kitchen sink at them in the first half of their semi but could not get over the line, Leinster won it comfortably enough in the end, but at the expense of losing Devin Tooner to a bad looking knee injury.

So what is the final going to come down to?

Leinster have the big game mentality and are devilishly hard to score against, but yet this will be their third big game in three weeks and what have they got left in the tank if it becomes another war.

Glasgow have the ability to score tries against anyone and Leinster will have to be at their best defensively to close them down. Glasgow will also have the home advantage and probably a much bigger proportion of the crowd, despite an ill judged attempt to envoke a bit of sectarianism by Leo Cullen.

My feeling is that Glasgow have to start well and get their noses in front. Leinster are at their best when out in front and shutting down a team chasing a lead. If Glasgow can get off to the kind of start they did against Ulster and can maintain it, then the efforts of the past three weeks may start to take their toll. If that does not happen though, the kicking and power game of Leinster will be hard to overcome.

Either way a great game at a great venue beckons!

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Post by Eejit on Tue 21 May 2019, 1:08 pm

Only change I’d think about maybe making is Niko on the bench for Shug to offer something a bit different.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Tue 21 May 2019, 1:08 pm

I almost fell asleep watching Under the skin. Wanted to like it but it was too slow. Nothing to do with Scotland but speaking of Robert Pattinson I enjoyed his recent file Good Time. Its a bank robber and his disabled brother.

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Post by EST on Tue 21 May 2019, 1:09 pm

R!skysports wrote:Just popping in to mention one of my fav film....

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Featuring a young Peter Capaldi!

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Post by BigGee on Tue 21 May 2019, 1:10 pm

RDW wrote:
EWT Spoons wrote:I thought I had stumbled into the Edinburgh & Glasgow thread by mistake.

This should be a good game, if Glasgow can play to the standard they did on Fri they could be in with a real shout of winning this game.  However, if Leinster...Leinster then Glasgow could end up strangled out the game.

Thought about going through for the match, but given Hearts play Celtic just before, the trains to and from will be rammed.  Also if Celtic win the cup, I wouldn't be surprised if they congregate outside Parkhead, which will be fun for those going to game.

the Scottish Cup is half 2 I think and the Glasgow game doesn't kick off until 5 - you could head to the weege at 3pm and avoid all the football fans. Hearts are pretty much guaranteed to lose too meaning they won't hang about in Glasgow - should be quiet enough in the evening after the Glasgow game.

Famous last words of course!

Kick off is 18.30, they have clearly decided, quite sensibly to give a good stagger to the games.

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Post by EST on Tue 21 May 2019, 1:12 pm

Eejit wrote:Only change I’d think about maybe making is Niko on the bench for Shug to offer something a bit different.

That's another option - on balance, I think i'd probably keep Shug on the bench - this is just the type of game (crowd >30,000) that he thrives in.

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Post by BigGee on Tue 21 May 2019, 1:12 pm

EST wrote:
R!skysports wrote:Just popping in to mention one of my fav film....

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Featuring a young Peter Capaldi!

In a very gentle role, hard to see him morphing into Malcolm Tucker on that performance!

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Post by Don Alfonso on Tue 21 May 2019, 1:14 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:I almost fell asleep watching Under the skin. Wanted to like it but it was too slow. Nothing to do with Scotland but speaking of Robert Pattinson I enjoyed his recent file Good Time. Its a bank robber and his disabled brother.

Someone was absolutely raving about it to me the other day. Pattinson, post-Twilight, has worked almost exclusively with art-house directors. Looking forward to The lighthouse - loved The Witch.

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Post by BigGee on Tue 21 May 2019, 1:14 pm

Keeble might start over Bhatti, but it would only be a straight swap with the bench.

Big Ollie looked pretty hungry for action when he came on and carried very well. Bhatti is also playing well though, so it is 50/50 for me.

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Post by Eejit on Tue 21 May 2019, 1:15 pm

EST wrote:
Eejit wrote:Only change I’d think about maybe making is Niko on the bench for Shug to offer something a bit different.

That's another option - on balance, I think i'd probably keep Shug on the bench - this is just the type of game (crowd >30,000) that he thrives in.

Could use a big 20 minutes to show why he’s on there big money. Shouldn’t start though as Seaman Steyn deserves it, he’s been really good and Rennie does seem to reward form.

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Post by EST on Tue 21 May 2019, 1:18 pm

BigGee wrote:Keeble might start over Bhatti, but it would only be a straight swap with the bench.

Big Ollie looked pretty hungry for action when he came on and carried very well. Bhatti is also playing well though, so it is 50/50 for me.

I like the idea of Ollie coming on with 30 mins to go - he is probably our most destructive ball carrier, and I think that stage in the game can be at his most useful - Bhatti is also playing very well at the moment, and will be fired up considering its his last game.

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Post by jimbopip on Tue 21 May 2019, 1:19 pm

I can't see any changes to the 23. Possibly Niko might be considered, but DTH did well against Ulster and will be closer to 100% match fit for having had a run out. For Niko to Bench Not A Show Pony would have to drop out. I think the bench is better without Niko; Jones covers 12, 13, 15 and seaman can cover the wings. Niko only really cover wing and full back.

BBB will surely start. DR seems to have players he puts a great deal of trust in and the Tackle Monster is his go to back rower. The toss up is between Mr and Mrs at 7.

The only other area of contention is whether he starts Bhatti or OK. Bhatti is the form player, but Kebble might get it just by being bigger and (slightly) more aggressive.

I just hope Nigel O'wens has one of his outstandingly good games and doesn't (a) come out with a preconceived idea of how the scrums will work out and (b) decide to let the breakdowns look after themselves.

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Post by EST on Tue 21 May 2019, 1:19 pm

Don Alfonso wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:I almost fell asleep watching Under the skin. Wanted to like it but it was too slow. Nothing to do with Scotland but speaking of Robert Pattinson I enjoyed his recent file Good Time. Its a bank robber and his disabled brother.

Someone was absolutely raving about it to me the other day. Pattinson, post-Twilight, has worked almost exclusively with  art-house directors. Looking forward to The lighthouse - loved The Witch.

Kermode and Mayo were talking about this the other week as well, I suppose when you have made a fortune on a franchise such as twilight you can then go on and do what really interests you.

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Post by jimbopip on Tue 21 May 2019, 4:23 pm

Panic over chaps. Smile

The Hagia Sophia's sister, Aileen Tu, is taking the ticket.

Mind you if I've got to keep her supplied with Tennants' screwtops and black pudding suppers I might have been cheaper paying for both tickets myself.

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Post by Pot Hale on Tue 21 May 2019, 7:13 pm

If Leinster can get 15 players on the pitch who know how to beat Glasgow they could be on a winner.

Toner is injured so that’s the line out and scrum banjaxed.  Then there’s the departing players who’ll be looking for a send off.
Wonder if Mick Kearney will be backup?
Jack McGrath to start or continue bench role before going up the M1 to Ulster?
Nick McCarthy before he heads to Munster?
Noel Reid and SOB get one last fling before taking the Queen’s shilling?

Henshaw and Ringrose hardly seem to know each other these days. And with Lowe wandering in off his wing, the Glas backline should have a field day.

Rob Kearney has apparently recovered from his HIA. So Larmour back on the wing and Dave K wondering if he’ll get the 23 shirt over ROL.
Will Ross Byrne start again ahead of Sexton?

Hopefully they serve cappuccino in the Members Lounge.

I wonder what colour jerseys they will wear.
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Post by tigertattie on Wed 22 May 2019, 1:11 pm

jimbopip wrote:I can't see any changes to the 23. Possibly Niko might be considered, but DTH did well against Ulster and will be closer to 100% match fit for having had a run out. For Niko to Bench Not A Show Pony would have to drop out. I think the bench is better without Niko; Jones covers 12, 13, 15 and seaman can cover the wings. Niko only really cover wing and full back.

BBB will surely start. DR seems to have players he puts a great deal of trust in and the Tackle Monster is his go to back rower. The toss up is between Mr and Mrs at 7.

The only other area of contention is whether he starts Bhatti or OK. Bhatti is the form player, but Kebble might get it just by being bigger and (slightly) more aggressive.

I just hope Nigel O'wens has one of his outstandingly good games and doesn't (a) come out with a preconceived idea of how the scrums will work out and (b) decide to let the breakdowns look after themselves.

any idea how Glasgow fair with Nige as the ref? I know some teams jsut struggle as they can't "bend the rules" at the breakdown when Nige is leaving things as a free for all!!!
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Post by Collapse2005 on Wed 22 May 2019, 1:16 pm

Is Nige reffing? Nooooooooooooo

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Post by LondonTiger on Wed 22 May 2019, 1:22 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Is Nige reffing? Nooooooooooooo

Not many other options. Brace or Mitrea?

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Post by Hazel Sapling on Wed 22 May 2019, 1:31 pm

tigertattie wrote:
jimbopip wrote:I can't see any changes to the 23. Possibly Niko might be considered, but DTH did well against Ulster and will be closer to 100% match fit for having had a run out. For Niko to Bench Not A Show Pony would have to drop out. I think the bench is better without Niko; Jones covers 12, 13, 15 and seaman can cover the wings. Niko only really cover wing and full back.

BBB will surely start. DR seems to have players he puts a great deal of trust in and the Tackle Monster is his go to back rower. The toss up is between Mr and Mrs at 7.

The only other area of contention is whether he starts Bhatti or OK. Bhatti is the form player, but Kebble might get it just by being bigger and (slightly) more aggressive.

I just hope Nigel O'wens has one of his outstandingly good games and doesn't (a) come out with a preconceived idea of how the scrums will work out and (b) decide to let the breakdowns look after themselves.

any idea how Glasgow fair with Nige as the ref? I know some teams jsut struggle as they can't "bend the rules" at the breakdown when Nige is leaving things as a free for all!!!

Generally pretty well in my mind. He tends to reward open attacking play and turnovers that play into Glasgow's hands. I don't think he likes the scrums to go on forever either.

Other viable options would have been Whitehouse who has been a bit more up and down this season or one of the South African refs. I don't think Joubert is allowed in Scotland

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Post by BigGee on Wed 22 May 2019, 6:33 pm

Hoggy's probable final interview as a Glasgow Warrior with Tom English for the BBC

What a ride it has been!


Stuart Hogg admitted to having a wee tear in his eye as he said his farewells to Scotstoun last Friday, the only thing staving off a full blubathon being the fact that his stay at Glasgow Warriors had just been extended by a week following the evisceration of Ulster in the Pro14 semi-final.

Saturday's final against Leinster at Celtic Park will be the last act before leaving for Exeter Chiefs - and he knows what's coming.

"I get really nervous before every game and this one isn't going to be any different, especially since it's going to be the last time I pull on the jersey and I want to make the most of it," he says. "It's actually worse than nerves. Sometimes I get a little bit scared. I do, genuinely. But I love it at the same time.




"If I was relaxed and not fussed about what's happening, I'd probably play like a bag of crap, so I want those nerves and I want to win this final. I want to finish on a high."
'The people around this club are special'

Hogg's Glasgow story goes back to 2010, when he arrived at the club, and then into the spring of 2011, when he made his debut in a drab 16-16 draw against the Dragons at Firhill.

It all seems like a lifetime ago. The crowd that night was 1,709, against the 10,000 sell-out against Ulster on Friday and the expected 40,000-plus at Celtic Park on the weekend. Glasgow finished his debut season with six wins from 22 games in the old Magners League. They ended up 11th of 12 teams, fully 50 points behind the champions Munster, with only Aironi keeping them off the bottom.

As he's about to play his last game, that first one is something he's been thinking about.

"At one stage, there was a high crossfield kick that was heading for the far corner and I was never in a month of Sundays getting to it," he says, with a smile. "There's a photo of me running and I'm worried about the bounce of the ball, but the pitch was that boggy and sandy that the ball just sat down. I remember that well because if the ball bounced I was absolutely buggered.

"We finished second bottom that season. We played Ulster at home and they had more fans than we did. Everything's changed at this club since then.

"Everything I've achieved in the game has been as a Glasgow Warrior. The people around the club are special. They'd make you want to stay. They're friends for life. I'm excited about the next challenge but I'll be forever grateful for the opportunities I've been given here."




'I was sitting in the stand with a pint'

What an epic journey it's been, a journey that could have come to an abrupt halt halfway through when he experienced his 'difficult phase' after his first Lions tour. Coming to the end of the 2013-14 season, Hogg decided he wanted to leave Glasgow. He saw his future at Ulster and, by his own admission, behaved badly.

Gregor Townsend, the then Glasgow coach, responded by dropping him. The last time Glasgow met Leinster in a final was at the RDS Arena in 2014 and Hogg was nowhere near the matchday squad.

"I was sitting up in the stand with a pint," he says. "It was rubbish and all my own doing. At the time, I had one foot in Ulster and one foot in Glasgow.

"We all make mistakes, we all grow up. Looking back, getting that boot up the backside was probably the best thing that ever happened to me."

The following season brought the Pro12 title and Hogg was mesmeric throughout. He has never minded admitting that he's a rugby obsessive, nor has he ever made any secret of the gratitude he feels from making his living by throwing a ball around.

"The game is getting harder, everybody is getting bigger and faster, but I love it more and more," he says. "I'm not afraid to say I'm obsessed with rugby.

"It's all about continuing to learn. Rugby is changing. There are different set-piece plays, different counter-attack opportunities, different kick-off options. The exciting thing is that every team poses different threats and that's the beauty of it. No game is ever the same.

"I've changed as a player over the years. The biggest thing is the ability to catch and pass and put others into space. At times, I tried too often to pull something out of the bag to get the crowd on their feet, but now I realise that it's the basics that are most important - take and give and keep yourself in the game.

"I get great satisfaction out of scoring tries but also by putting boys away or by attracting defenders to me and creating space."

'I had an absolute shocker'





Glasgow are not the same side as last season. They were one-dimensional a year ago, a boom or bust job, fantastically entertaining on a given day but also physically and mentally frail. They've worked tirelessly on bringing more belligerence to their game without sacrificing their natural instinct to attack.

They really thought that they were in a good enough place to throw something substantial at Saracens in the quarter-final of the Champions Cup in March, but they were popgun to Sarries' bazooka. Head coach Dave Rennie monstered his players behind the scenes in the aftermath. Huw Jones, the centre, recalled Rennie using the word 'imposters' in a savage review session the following week.

"The Saracens game gave us the kick up the backside that we needed," Hogg says.

"I can't remember Dave saying that, but we probably deserved it. I was really down after that game. I had an absolute shocker. It took me a week to get over it.

"I'd worked incredibly hard to get back playing after my injury against Ireland in the Six Nations. That was my return and to play the way I did... basic skills let me down.

"When a team gets beaten, it's always difficult, but when you have a shocker into the bargain, you always look at your own performance first and it took me time to recover from that."

Glasgow managed to turn that misery to their advantage in the Pro14 run-in. Their hard edge returned and they're now playing their best stuff of the season, which is convenient because they're now facing the ultimate test - the four-time European champions who are still hurting from losing their title to Saracens a few weeks back.

"Nothing changes as to the way we want to play," says Hogg. "You often find that when teams get to play-off rugby, they shut up shop, kick the ball and try to squeeze you more than they'd normally do. We won't be doing that.

"Leinster are a cracking side with world-class individuals and you only have to look at the ball handling ability of the front row at the weekend to know what they're about - Cian Healy to Tadhg Furlong, who put Sean Cronin in for a try against Munster.

"We're fully aware of how big this is going to be. We need to front up in defence and make sure we're in their face at every single opportunity. We can't allow them time to breathe.

"It's about being squeaky clean around the breakdown and getting Nigel [Owens, the referee] on our side. It's about not making silly errors that'll give them cheap field position. They'll want to squeeze us into making mistakes but if we're disciplined at the breakdown and in our defensive line we should be grand.

"It's something that Dave has touched on over the past few months. Teams see us as a bit flash, a side that can score from anywhere but also a side that others think can be battered up front. One of our big rocks is brutality and we'll have to bring all of it to this final."

The romantic in him longs for the dream farewell, but the realist won't let him go there. He might have only game to go as a Warrior, but he has a world of work ahead of him.





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Post by EST on Thu 23 May 2019, 8:06 am

I'ts been good to see Hoggy mature over the years, his career could have been much worse off if he continued on the trajectory he set in 13/14. I always thought that it took real leadership from Toonie to drop him for that final against Leinster, turned out to be a brilliant bit of man management.

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Post by tigertattie on Thu 23 May 2019, 9:42 am

EST wrote:I'ts been good to see Hoggy mature over the years, his career could have been much worse off if he continued on the trajectory he set in 13/14.  I always thought that it took real leadership from Toonie to drop him for that final against Leinster, turned out to be a brilliant bit of man management.

Hogg was lucky that Toonie was the boss or he could of either A: not been punished if the coach was a wet blanket or B: Sent packing elsewhere for being a trumped up little diva

I think Toonie gave him the boot up the jacksie from one borderer to another and then had a frank discussion about how Hogg and Glasgow need to work together for the benefit of both!
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Post by jimbopip on Thu 23 May 2019, 12:11 pm

TT, have you ordered your Warriors shirt yet?

Team for tomorrow?

Same 23 as last week. Smile

Ladyboys team? Doesn't matter, we know exactly how they will play. It won't be pretty; one-out rugby for the most, kicks to the corner and lots of aggressive line speed in defence.

noticed that our Irish cousins seemed to have drifted away from this thread, but then there is only so much you can say about the Ladyboys: they know how to win things, they are very good at it, they are not as good at it as Sarries nor as good as they once were.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Thu 23 May 2019, 12:18 pm

You sound like a Munster fan. Looking forward to it, should be a good game.

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Post by Tramptastic on Thu 23 May 2019, 12:23 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:You sound like a Munster fan. Looking forward to it, should be a good game.

Simmer doon, there's no need for name calling.

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Post by jimbopip on Thu 23 May 2019, 12:50 pm

Tramptastic wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:You sound like a Munster fan. Looking forward to it, should be a good game.

Simmer doon, there's no need for name calling.

Laugh Munster fan... Laugh

I think it should be a cracking game...As long as Glasgow turn up and don't get all Sarriefied on us.

I do think the ladyboys must be creamcrackered after the last two weeks and if Glasgow are able to play at high tempo for 80 minutes then it could be a long afternoon for the Dubs.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Thu 23 May 2019, 12:52 pm

Tramptastic wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:You sound like a Munster fan. Looking forward to it, should be a good game.

Simmer doon, there's no need for name calling.

Yeah you're right. These two sides met in the final just once before in 2014 I think. Leinster obviously winning that one.

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Post by Tramptastic on Thu 23 May 2019, 1:07 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:
Tramptastic wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:You sound like a Munster fan. Looking forward to it, should be a good game.

Simmer doon, there's no need for name calling.

Yeah you're right. These two sides met in the final just once before in 2014 I think. Leinster obviously winning that one.

I think you are mistaking me for a Glasgow fan

I am of Galloway and have no investment in either of the Scottish Pro sides beyond cheering on Scottish Players (and hoping Matawalu does something insane every 5 seconds) Hug

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Post by Collapse2005 on Thu 23 May 2019, 1:18 pm

No not really. I wasn't making any assumptions, just throwing out there my two cents.

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Post by Pot Hale on Thu 23 May 2019, 4:52 pm

I like Alisdair Reid, the Scottish Rugby Correspondent in the Scotland Times comments on the final ticketing prices today:

Sensible ticket prices will lead to big crowd
I very much doubt whether Celtic Park will be filled to its towering rafters on Saturday, but the fact that more than two thirds of the tickets had been sold by Tuesday afternoon is a pretty impressive feat and a tribute to the faith of the Scottish Rugby Union, Celtic and the City of Glasgow in bidding to take the Guinness Pro14 final there.

It is also a reminder that sensible pricing — an area of vast improvement by the SRU over the past few years — is the key to getting people through the turnstiles. At the time of writing, adult tickets can still be bought for £25. Kids can get in for as little as £1 but be warned that the offer ends at midnight on Friday. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scotland/leo-cullens-critics-must-learn-to-take-a-joke-mbcpcf3h6
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Post by EST on Fri 24 May 2019, 9:15 am

Teams out at lunch today I guess - as I said before, very much doubt there will be many changes from a Glasgow perspective.

Prediction wise, I think Leinster are favourites. I can see them controlling territory and possession, and in VDF they have a point of difference - Glasgow don't really have player who is as good over the ball as him. A lot will depend on how much the preceding two weeks has taken out of the Ladyboys, if Glasgow can get an early foothold it should be a cracker.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri 24 May 2019, 9:38 am

Well given its in Celtic park it could be like a home game for Leinster?

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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri 24 May 2019, 9:40 am

Personally I see Glasgow as slight favorites. They are a good side and its in Glasgow and they have very good players and a good coach. They have only won the pro14 once and I think will be pretty motivated to get the win. Id love a Leinster win but wouldn't be too upset to lose to this Glasgow side.

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Post by Hazel Sapling on Fri 24 May 2019, 10:22 am

I do wonder if Leinster did a Glasgow of last year who started the season on fire, had a great autumn with the internationals, got cut down to size in the Six Nations and sort of limped into the playoffs with inconsistent performances. It is hard to tell due to the heavy rotation of the side whether anything can be read into the last few months though

Leinster are a great side and on paper should be favourites. Glasgow have the knockout power to beat anyone but don't have the defense for a slog fest. The more open the game is, the more likely that Glasgow will win.

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Post by tigertattie on Fri 24 May 2019, 10:37 am

Hopefully Glasgow win this as it could be the last ever pro 14 final with Mrs May shuffling off into the darkness making way for Boris and his red button pressing tendancies!
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Post by jimbopip on Fri 24 May 2019, 11:12 am


S it looks like Kearney will be at full back, meaning Larmour and Lowe on the wings.

Is that Larmour and Lowe who wrote "My Fair Lady" and other musicals?


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Post by jimbopip on Fri 24 May 2019, 11:59 am

Team's oot Very Happy

Same 23 as last week except The Nuke replaces Mr D'Arcy on the bench. So OK and the Nike to bring lots of bulk on for the last quarter.

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Post by BigGee on Fri 24 May 2019, 12:02 pm

Am half way to Scotland, just stopped in Westherby for coffee and to see the team

And why would we change it?

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Post by jimbopip on Fri 24 May 2019, 12:04 pm

Gee, there really should be a 606 rallying point pre match. If you don't organise one I may report you to the Mods.

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Post by RDW on Fri 24 May 2019, 12:05 pm

Poor Darcy - the only one to be dropped!

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Post by jimbopip on Fri 24 May 2019, 12:07 pm

The opposition;

LEINSTER RUGBY (caps in brackets):

15. Rob Kearney (209)
14. Jordan Larmour (38)
13. Garry Ringrose (64)
12. Robbie Henshaw (36)
11. James Lowe (29)
10. Johnny Sexton (159) CAPTAIN
9. Luke McGrath (112)
1. Cian Healy (207)
2. Seán Cronin (172)
3. Tadhg Furlong (101)
4. Scott Fardy (43)
5. James Ryan (30)
6. Rhys Ruddock (160)
7. Josh van der Flier (72)
8. Jack Conan (88)

16. Bryan Byrne (41)
17. Ed Byrne (44)
18. Andrew Porter (52)
19. Ross Molony (81)
20. Max Deegan (45)
21. Nick McCarthy (35)
22. Ross Byrne (70)
23. Rory O’Loughlin (61)

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Post by BigGee on Fri 24 May 2019, 12:17 pm

Which stand you in Jim?

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Fri 24 May 2019, 12:19 pm

I said in an earlier post that injuries permitting the only two changes DR would be even thinking about would be switching Keeble and Bhatti around and bringing the Nuke onto the bench. He's gone with the latter, and stuck with Bhatti as a starter. Makes sense given how well he's been playing recently, and with Keeble's impact off the bench.

Glasgow team therefore very much as expected.

Leinster team looks fearsome, but Toner's quite a big loss IMO. Such a strong line-out and maul operator, and really gets stuck in. One of the more under-appreciated players around IMO. Glasgow have been pretty good at pinching opposition line-out balls in recent times (Gray and Cummings have both been good), and it's an area they might target. I also wonder if Glasgow have an edge off the bench.

But it is a very impressive looking Leinster XV.

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Post by Pot Hale on Fri 24 May 2019, 2:29 pm

Three Byrnes on the Bench.

Says it all really.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri 24 May 2019, 2:47 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:I said in an earlier post that injuries permitting the only two changes DR would be even thinking about would be switching Keeble and Bhatti around and bringing the Nuke onto the bench. He's gone with the latter, and stuck with Bhatti as a starter. Makes sense given how well he's been playing recently, and with Keeble's impact off the bench.

Glasgow team therefore very much as expected.

Leinster team looks fearsome, but Toner's quite a big loss IMO. Such a strong line-out and maul operator, and really gets stuck in. One of the more under-appreciated players around IMO. Glasgow have been pretty good at pinching opposition line-out balls in recent times (Gray and Cummings have both been good), and it's an area they might target. I also wonder if Glasgow have an edge off the bench.

But it is a very impressive looking Leinster XV.

Toner is a great player alright, probably Irelands most under-rated player of all time (big statement) but by Christ Fardy is a good man to bring in too.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri 24 May 2019, 3:24 pm

https://www.the42.ie/cullen-celtic-leinster-pro14-final-4650128-May2019/

Leo says saweee.

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Post by Pot Hale on Fri 24 May 2019, 5:03 pm

A new media policy has been created for Leinster coaches and players.   Certain words must not be used in future including ‘Celtic’, ‘Rangers’, ‘Glasgow’, ‘fans’, ‘players’, ‘support’ and ‘battered’ lest they cause offence.  ‘Offence’ is also banned.

Leinster have insisted that Cullen don sackcloth and ashes in advance of appearing on the ***** Park pitch tomorrow in front of the opposition team’s **** and *******ers. Both ****** and ***** have asked **** not to say anything that might indicate or invoke ****** for **** or ****.  

Leinster hope this clarifies the matter and look forward to being in **** to face ***** being **** or create ****.

Warning: the above is an attempt at humour.  No **** should be taken or given especially **** of ****, ***** and ****
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Post by Eejit on Fri 24 May 2019, 5:31 pm

Pot Hale wrote:A new media policy has been created for Leinster coaches and players.   Certain words must not be used in future including ‘Celtic’, ‘Rangers’, ‘Glasgow’, ‘fans’, ‘players’, ‘support’ and ‘battered’ lest they cause offence.  ‘Offence’ is also banned.

Leinster have insisted that Cullen don sackcloth and ashes in advance of appearing on the ***** Park pitch tomorrow in front of the opposition team’s **** and *******ers. Both ****** and ***** have asked **** not to say anything that might indicate or invoke ****** for **** or ****.  

Leinster hope this clarifies the matter and look forward to being in **** to face ***** being **** or create ****.

Warning: the above is an attempt at humour.  No **** should be taken or given especially **** of ****, ***** and ****

It wasn't a very good attempt, was it. What's really funny is Leinster's recent Pro14 form - LDLLW. HILARIOUS.


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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri 24 May 2019, 6:03 pm

Who cares when you have already qualified for the play offs?

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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri 24 May 2019, 6:04 pm

https://youtu.be/bJWRq84_rZk

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Post by Pot Hale on Sat 25 May 2019, 12:22 am

Collapse2005 wrote:https://youtu.be/bJWRq84_rZk

Now that is funny. I’ve never seen that before. Cullen should hire him as his press agent for a break out the red panties moment.

It was fun tonight in the old homestead - The Pot Still - lots of whiskys n beers consumed and not a mention of the major international incident last weekend. TFFT. Fair play to Leo for givin the apology - let’s hope that Craig still doesn’t want to ‘have a private word’ with him - I’m fearin’ for his safety.

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