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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 30 May 2019, 12:25 am

Points Table after Match 48: Final

660 : Alfie
650 : Goose
600 : James
580 : Guildford
550 : Robbo
530 : Dolphin
530 : Duty
505 : Jules
500 : Pal Joey
495 : Tiger
435 : KP_fan
405 : MfC
310 : Olly

* * * * * * * * *
Pick the Winner:

and

Pick the Margin:

N - Narrow
C - Comfortable
E - Easy
T - Thrashing

Narrow0-15 runs
or super over
1-2 wickets or
0-6 balls remaining*
or super over
Comfortable16-49 runs3-5 wickets or
7-18 balls remaining*
Easy50-99 runs6-8 wickets or
19-30 balls remaining*
Thrashing100+ runs9+ wickets or
31+ balls remaining*

* The lowest fitting tier of wickets and balls remaining will apply. For example, a win by 9 wickets with 1 ball remaining or a win by 1 wicket with 20 balls remaining are both Narrow.


Scoring:

10 points for picking correct winning team
10 points for picking correct winning margin (N,C,E,or T)
25 points for correct pick tie result (NT)
5 points for one rung off winning margin
0 points for more than one rung off winning margin but you still get 10 points for the win.
0 points for a 'No Result'.

Double points for nominated *Golden Matches* for:

Matches 1-10
Matches 11-20
Matches 21-30
Matches 31-39
Matches 40-45
Matches 46-47 Semi Finals (double points)
Match 48 Final (triple points)


Matches 46-47:

Match 46: India v New Zealand
Match 47: Australia v England

Match 48: New Zealand v England

Good luck everyone... ! OK


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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 30 May 2019, 12:31 am

England - C
West Indies - N
New Zealand - E
Australia - E
South Africa - C
*England - E*
Sri Lanka - N
India - C
New Zealand - C
Australia - N


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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 30 May 2019, 5:34 am

England C
West Indies C
New Zealand E
Australia T
South Africa E
England C GOLD
Afghanistan N
India C
New Zealand C
Australia E


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Post by alfie on Thu 30 May 2019, 6:27 am

Eng C
WI C
NZ C
Aus E
SA N
Eng C
Sri C
Ind N
NZ C
Aus N

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Post by Gooseberry on Thu 30 May 2019, 7:33 am

Eng  C
WI C
NZ E
Aus T GOLD
SA C
Eng E
Sri N
Ind N
NZ C
Aus N


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Thu 30 May 2019, 7:47 am

England - N
West Indies - C
New Zealand - T
Australia - C
South Africa - N
England - C - GOLD
Afghanistan - E
South Africa - N
New Zealand - C
West Indies - E


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Post by LondonTiger on Thu 30 May 2019, 8:19 am

England N
WI C
NZ E
Australia E
SA C
England E
Afghanistan N
India N
New Zealand E
Australia C


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Post by LondonTiger on Thu 30 May 2019, 8:19 am

Gooseberry wrote:Eng - E
WI C
NZ E
Aus T
Aus C
NZ N
SA E
ENG C
Sri N
In C

You may need to change the order

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Post by Gooseberry on Thu 30 May 2019, 8:41 am

LondonTiger wrote:
You may need to change the order

Yikes yeah dunno how I managed it that badly! Rushing trying to do it on mobile walking to work. (Edited)


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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 30 May 2019, 8:56 am

Gooseberry wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:
You may need to change the order

Yikes yeah dunno how I managed it that badly! Rushing trying to do it on mobile walking to work.  (Edited)


Just use the same order, Goose... ya fruitcake! Very Happy

How do we do points, LT?
I don't want to be stingy dealing in single points... fractions of points. Rather make it juicy so we can all rack up some decent points.

Does this seem OK?

20 points for correct win and winning margin either N, C, E or T.

10 points for correct win but only one rung off the actual result.
eg. you tip India T and the actual result is India E = 10 points

5 points for correct win but more than one rung off the winning margin.
eg. you tip England T and the actual result is England N

For a tie - nominate "NT" after your winning team
eg. Australia NT .. and it will be treated as an extra rung from N. 50 points for correct picking NT. If it's only an N... 10 points.
For a "No Result" ... 0 points allocated.

I'm meddling with the idea of a *Golden Pick* match - where you nominate winning team & correct margin with an * eg. *Aus E* v SL - so you'd get 40, 20 and 10 points ... double the usual points.


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Post by Duty281 on Thu 30 May 2019, 9:01 am

England - E
Pakistan - E
New Zealand - T (Golden Point)
Australia - T
South Africa - E
England - T
Afghanistan - E
India - C
New Zealand - E
Australia - E

Thanks. thumbsup


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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 30 May 2019, 9:08 am

Does that seem OK, Doots? It should work... not too complicated.
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Post by Duty281 on Thu 30 May 2019, 9:13 am

I think so! Should work at any rate.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Thu 30 May 2019, 9:23 am

Thanks for setting this up!

England - C
Pakistan - C
New Zealand - E (golden match)
Australia - E
South Africa - C
England - C
Afghanistan - N
India - C
New Zealand - C
Australia - N


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Post by LondonTiger on Thu 30 May 2019, 9:23 am

Pal Joey wrote:

How do we do points, LT?
I don't want to be stingy dealing in single points... fractions of points. Rather make it juicy so we can all rack up some decent points.

Does this seem OK?

20 points for correct win and winning margin either N, C, E or T.

10 points for correct win but only one rung off the actual result.
eg. you tip India T and the actual result is India E = 10 points

5 points for correct win but more than one rung off the winning margin.
eg. you tip England T and the actual result is England N



Personally I would want to make the correct result as important as the margin so:

!0 for the result
10 for correct margin
5 for just one rung out

But up to you really.

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 30 May 2019, 9:29 am

Ok... let's do that.

I'll go Match 6: *England E* for golden point match for this round.

(we'll do this for each block of matches... 5 times including the semis / final block of matches)
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Post by robbo277 on Thu 30 May 2019, 9:56 am

Match 1: England - C
Match 2: West Indies E
Match 3: New Zealand T
Match 4: Australia E - Golden match
Match 5: South Africa C
Match 6: England T
Match 7: Afghanistan N
Match 8: India C
Match 9: New Zealand E
Match 10: Australia T

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Post by alfie on Thu 30 May 2019, 10:14 am

So we have to nominate one of our selections for this Golden Point thing , eh ?

OK I will make the third game , my "NZ to beat Sri Lanka , C" my choice. Is that OK ?

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 30 May 2019, 10:20 am

Yes OK thanks Alfie... also Robbo, LT and Duty. OK
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Post by JuliusHMarx on Thu 30 May 2019, 10:40 am

Match 1: England - C
Match 2: Pakistan - N
Match 3: New Zealand - C
Match 4: Australia - T
Match 5: South Africa - E - Gold (gold), always believe in your soul
Match 6: England - N
Match 7: Sri Lanka - E
Match 8: South Africa - C
Match 9: New Zealand - E
Match 10: West Indies - N

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 30 May 2019, 10:49 am

The Lost Valley of Gold: SA Easy over, with golden fries for Match 5 then for you, Jules. Thanks OK
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Post by James100 on Thu 30 May 2019, 11:15 am

Match 1: England C
Match 2: West Indies C
Match 3: New Zealand E GOLD
Match 4: Australia C
Match 5: South Africa N
Match 6: England C
Match 7: Afghanistan C
Match 8: India N
Match 9: New Zealand E
Match 10: Australia N

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 30 May 2019, 11:29 am

Thanks James
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Post by guildfordbat on Thu 30 May 2019, 2:15 pm

Match 1: SA C
Match 2: West Indies C

Joey,
Sorry I'm late to the party - away a lot oy y'day and today until now. Feel free to disqualify me from Match 1 - although genuinely what I would have gone for before the start, feel Eng are a bit over hyped and, in any case, need to go against the majority to spring a surprise! Smile
Other predictions to follow later today.
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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 30 May 2019, 2:25 pm

No worries, Guildford. Great to have you back on board!  Smile
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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Thu 30 May 2019, 7:01 pm

Just edited my post as I thought T was for "tight" rather than "thrashing". Have changed those to Ns. Upset I didn't trust my gut and go with an "Easy" England win, which would have brought me an extra 5 points. Think only Duty's got those, so he's into an early lead by my reckoning Very Happy

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Post by Gooseberry on Fri 31 May 2019, 8:09 am

If only south Africa had had the option of claiming they hadn't read the rules and changing their minds  in 92 🤣

I was just the one rung out too by the way! (oops no I wasnt i changed it didnt I gahhh)

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Post by guildfordbat on Fri 31 May 2019, 9:07 am

Joey,
Here goes with the rest of my match selections:

3. NZ - C
4. Aus - E
5. SA - C
6. E - C
7. SL - C
8. I - N
9. NZ - E
10. Aus - C GOLD.

Thanks.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Fri 31 May 2019, 9:12 am

What’s golden points?

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Post by LondonTiger on Fri 31 May 2019, 9:25 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:What’s golden points?

Double points. Not to be mistaken with the shower.

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Post by guildfordbat on Fri 31 May 2019, 9:29 am

I assume you are meant to pick one GOLD choice for this first batch of ten matches, that right? Cheers.

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Post by LondonTiger on Fri 31 May 2019, 9:36 am

guildfordbat wrote:I assume you are meant to pick one GOLD choice for this first batch of ten matches, that right? Cheers.

That was my understanding.

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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 31 May 2019, 11:59 am

guildfordbat wrote:I assume you are meant to pick one GOLD choice for this first batch of ten matches, that right? Cheers.

Yes Guildford, this is the first of 5 batches.
I'll post the scoreboard after this match... or a few hours after it finishes... which is early Saturday morning here.
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Post by robbo277 on Fri 31 May 2019, 1:47 pm

After today I'm off to a wedding, then on holiday and coming back in time for West Indies vs South Africa at the Rose Bowl. Not sure when I'll get a chance to do the next set of guesses. I'm definitely away when the second block starts, so I'll do the whole block of 10 now for ease. Long way to look forward without getting a look at everyone, but here it is.

So starting with Pakistan vs Sri Lanka and ending with Sri Lanka vs Australia:

Game 11: Pakistan C
Game 12: England E - gold
Game 13: New Zealand E
Game 14: India C
Game 15: West Indies C
Game 16: Bangladesh C
Game 17: Australia E
Game 18: India C
Game 19: England E
Game 20: Australia T

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Post by Gooseberry on Fri 31 May 2019, 1:51 pm

robbo277 wrote:After today I'm off to a wedding, then on holiday

I bet most of the Pakistan team wish they were too

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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 31 May 2019, 2:07 pm

Leaderboard after Match 2:

30 Robbo277
25 Alfie
25 Dolphin Z
25 Gooseberry
25 Good Golly I'm Olly
25 London Tiger
25 James100
20 Pal Joey
15 Guildfordbat
15 Duty281
15 KP_fan
10 JuliusHMarx
10 Mad for Chelsea

Quite a few of you collected the extra 5 points for picking WI - C ... one rung off the winning E; which only Robbo got on the mark.

Thanks for your picks in advance, Robbo. Have a great time away!


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Post by Gooseberry on Fri 31 May 2019, 2:33 pm

Joey was it not a thrashing? 104 runs?

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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 31 May 2019, 2:42 pm

They won by 7 wickets.

So according to the table in the op: Easy, 2nd column "6-8 wickets".
Or is it a T because there were more than "31+ balls remaining"?

If the latter, then Robbo would be on 25...
and everyone on 25 (in the table above) would be on 20, GB would be on 10.
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 31 May 2019, 2:48 pm

Sorry I did not notice earlier....Hope I can still participate

Matches 1-10:

Match 1: England - South Africa
(Eng-T)
Match 2: West Indies - Pakistan
(WI-T)
Match 3: New Zealand - Sri Lanka
(NZ-C)
Match 4: Afghanistan - Australia
(Aus-T)
Match 5: South Africa - Bangladesh
(SA-E)
Match 6: England - Pakistan
(Eng-E)
Match 7: Afghanistan - Sri Lanka
(Afg-N)
Match 8: South Africa - India
(Ind-C)
Match 9: Bangladesh - New Zealand
(NZ-C)
Match 10: Australia - West Indies
(WI-N)
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Post by Gooseberry on Fri 31 May 2019, 3:11 pm

Pal Joey wrote:They won by 7 wickets.

So according to the table in the op: Easy, 2nd column "6-8 wickets".
Or is it a T because there were more than "31+ balls remaining"?

If the latter, then Robbo would be on 25...
and everyone on 25 (in the table above) would be on 20, GB would be on 10.

Sorry I got mixed up and thought that post referred to the scores after game one.

But surely that has to go down as a thrashing because of the balls remaining? I means theres no way you could see that as anything else ....it does throw up a problem though ...what if they won with one wicket left and 31 balls? That wouldnt be a thrashing
Nor would winning with 10 wickets on the last ball.

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Post by guildfordbat on Fri 31 May 2019, 6:58 pm

Pal Joey wrote:


* The lowest fitting tier of wickets and balls remaining will apply. For example, a win by 9 wickets with 1 ball remaining or a win by 1 wicket with 20 balls remaining are both Narrow.



Goose - some small print for you. Smile

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Post by Gooseberry on Fri 31 May 2019, 8:08 pm

In that case the fine print is worse than Pakistan :p

I refer the honrouable gentleman to the above post about south Africa and reading the rules. Also if we arent allowed to book warner it's quite reasonable for any of us to ignore the rules, including the chap who's picked his scores after the first two games were played.

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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 31 May 2019, 10:21 pm

guys... I must admit I'm a little unsure myself. Looked like a comprehensive T to me as well.

Tiger can you help clarify?

KP_fan wrote:Sorry I did not notice earlier....Hope I can still participate
I'll get you into to the table, KP_f... thanks for your picks. What is your golden (double points) match? Let me know before next match.

I can't give you "Eng - T" after the event (nice try!) but I'll give you "WI - T".

So you're on 15 points. You're still nicely placed with 47 matches to go. Smile
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Post by KP_fan on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 8:59 am

Pal Joey wrote:guys... I must admit I'm a little unsure myself. Looked like a comprehensive T to me as well.

Tiger can you help clarify?

KP_fan wrote:Sorry I did not notice earlier....Hope I can still participate
I'll get you into to the table, KP_f... thanks for your picks. What is your golden (double points) match? Let me know before next match.

I can't give you "Eng - T" after the event (nice try!) but I'll give you "WI - T".

So you're on 15 points. You're still nicely placed with 47 matches to go. Smile

Thanks for letting me in Late
Double point game is Match-7 Afg-SL
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Post by Pal Joey on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 11:00 pm

OK thanks KP_f.

Points Table after Match 4

90 Robbo
70 Goose
70 Duty
70 James
65 Alfie
60 Tiger
60 Olly
60 MfC
55 Dolphin
55 Pal Joey
45 Guildford
40 KP_fan
35 Jules

Duty collected double points (40) for picking "NZ-T" in his golden match.
Same for Robbo with his "Aus-E" correct pick golden match.
Gooseberry, Mad for Chelsea and James100 all picked up a tidy 30 points for their golden matches too.

edit: Dolphin... I need my eyes checked. Had you on 65 but just noticed on the spreadsheet you are on 55... (10+15+15+15)


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Post by LondonTiger on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 8:04 am

Pal Joey wrote:They won by 7 wickets.

So according to the table in the op: Easy, 2nd column "6-8 wickets".
Or is it a T because there were more than "31+ balls remaining"?

If the latter, then Robbo would be on 25...
and everyone on 25 (in the table above) would be on 20, GB would be on 10.

Easy because losing 3 wickets trumps the number of balls.

While I know the game was really a thrashing, the rules had not considered a team winning inside 15 overs.

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 7:01 pm

Literally no-one predicted a Bangladesh victory, and London Tiger even wasted his golden ticket on South Africa. Surely no-one else was daft enough to do that? Were they?

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Post by Pal Joey on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 10:58 pm

The search for the lost valley of gold seemed like a good idea at the time. I'm sort of half shocked but not totally surprised by the result. Sorry for SA.

We all got "0" if that's any consolation, Julius. Laugh

Guess what?
I've put all my golden eggs in the England - E basket. Dolphin and Olly have theirs in England - C.

So they better win well enough... but not a thrashing, Duty and Robbo. You big T-zers!  Smile
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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 03 Jun 2019, 9:44 am

JuliusHMarx wrote:Literally no-one predicted a Bangladesh victory, and London Tiger even wasted his golden ticket on South Africa. Surely no-one else was daft enough to do that? Were they?

Thanks for pointing that out. I was hoping it may slip under the radar.

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Mon 03 Jun 2019, 12:40 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:Literally no-one predicted a Bangladesh victory, and London Tiger even wasted his golden ticket on South Africa. Surely no-one else was daft enough to do that? Were they?

Thanks for pointing that out. I was hoping it may slip under the radar.

I was the other one daft enough to do it.

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