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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 30 May 2019, 12:25 am

First topic message reminder :

Points Table after Match 48: Final

660 : Alfie
650 : Goose
600 : James
580 : Guildford
550 : Robbo
530 : Dolphin
530 : Duty
505 : Jules
500 : Pal Joey
495 : Tiger
435 : KP_fan
405 : MfC
310 : Olly

* * * * * * * * *
Pick the Winner:

and

Pick the Margin:

N - Narrow
C - Comfortable
E - Easy
T - Thrashing

Narrow0-15 runs
or super over
1-2 wickets or
0-6 balls remaining*
or super over
Comfortable16-49 runs3-5 wickets or
7-18 balls remaining*
Easy50-99 runs6-8 wickets or
19-30 balls remaining*
Thrashing100+ runs9+ wickets or
31+ balls remaining*

* The lowest fitting tier of wickets and balls remaining will apply. For example, a win by 9 wickets with 1 ball remaining or a win by 1 wicket with 20 balls remaining are both Narrow.


Scoring:

10 points for picking correct winning team
10 points for picking correct winning margin (N,C,E,or T)
25 points for correct pick tie result (NT)
5 points for one rung off winning margin
0 points for more than one rung off winning margin but you still get 10 points for the win.
0 points for a 'No Result'.

Double points for nominated *Golden Matches* for:

Matches 1-10
Matches 11-20
Matches 21-30
Matches 31-39
Matches 40-45
Matches 46-47 Semi Finals (double points)
Match 48 Final (triple points)


Matches 46-47:

Match 46: India v New Zealand
Match 47: Australia v England

Match 48: New Zealand v England

Good luck everyone... ! OK


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Post by Pal Joey on Mon 03 Jun 2019, 10:46 pm

I went to bed at England 82/2... and woke up to a shock result.

I could see some positive signs for Pakistan in those opening 12 or so overs with England batting. Chances were there.
They looked hungry for a win, nothing to lose... and if they bowled to their potential they could certainly rattle any good side.

None of us got it. We all must have been brainwashed into "not seeing it coming". A lesson for us all!  Smile
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Post by eirebilly on Tue 04 Jun 2019, 8:36 am

I completely missed the tipping comp. Oh well, best of luck to all Very Happy
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Post by guildfordbat on Tue 04 Jun 2019, 8:52 am

Pal Joey wrote:I went to bed at England 82/2... and woke up to a shock result.

I could see some positive signs for Pakistan in those opening 12 or so overs with England batting. Chances were there.
They looked hungry for a win, nothing to lose... and if they bowled to their potential they could certainly rattle any good side.

None of us got it. We all must have been brainwashed into "not seeing it coming". A lesson for us all!  Smile

Rats and double rats - as regards this competition anyway! I saw an early loss coming England's way but had it to be against South Africa and not Pakistan! mad

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Post by Pal Joey on Tue 04 Jun 2019, 10:49 pm

Points Table after Match 7:

90 : Robbo
85 : Goose
85 : Alfie
70 : Duty
70 : James
70 : Pal Joey
60 : Tiger
60 : Olly
60 : MfC
55 : Dolphin
55 : Guildford
45 : Jules
40 : KP_fan

Nice work from Alfie who correctly picked SL - C
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Post by guildfordbat on Tue 04 Jun 2019, 11:47 pm

Pal Joey wrote:Points Table after Match 7:

90 : Robbo
85 : Goose
85 : Alfie
70 : Duty
70 : James
70 : Pal Joey
60 : Tiger
60 : Olly
60 : MfC
55 : Dolphin
55 : Guildford
45 : Jules
40 : KP_fan

Nice work from Alfie who correctly picked SL - C

Ahem, cough.

Way this is going, I can't afford to miss out on any acknowledgement! Wink

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Post by Pal Joey on Wed 05 Jun 2019, 12:14 am

guildfordbat wrote:
Pal Joey wrote:Points Table after Match 7:

90 : Robbo
85 : Goose
85 : Alfie
70 : Duty
70 : James
70 : Pal Joey
60 : Tiger
60 : Olly
60 : MfC
55 : Dolphin
55 : Guildford
45 : Jules
40 : KP_fan

Nice work from Alfie who correctly picked SL - C

Ahem, cough.

Way this is going, I can't afford to miss out on any acknowledgement! Wink

and a nice push for 2 runs out into the covers sees Guildford move onto 55 now... the bottom of the scoreboard starting to move along now. Smile
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Post by guildfordbat on Wed 05 Jun 2019, 12:22 am

Laugh Ha! Thanks, Joey.

Getting as desperate for points as Surrey - as Goose might say and probably will! Wink

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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 05 Jun 2019, 8:01 am

It's just for fun Guildford.

Unlike the RLC and CC which are serious sporting competitions played for pride, glory and a measure of worth

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Post by guildfordbat on Wed 05 Jun 2019, 9:04 am

Gooseberry wrote:It's just for fun Guildford.

Unlike the RLC and CC which are serious sporting competitions played for pride, glory and a measure of worth

Goose - I've lost track of which one of us is doing the fishing and who is doing the biting! Wink

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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 05 Jun 2019, 9:06 am

guildfordbat wrote:
Gooseberry wrote:It's just for fun Guildford.

Unlike the RLC and CC which are serious sporting competitions played for pride, glory and a measure of worth

Goose - I've lost track of which one of us is doing the fishing and who is doing the biting! Wink


Don't worry you'll get your revenge when Surrey win Division 2 next year Whistle

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Post by guildfordbat on Wed 05 Jun 2019, 11:57 pm

Gooseberry wrote:
guildfordbat wrote:
Gooseberry wrote:It's just for fun Guildford.

Unlike the RLC and CC which are serious sporting competitions played for pride, glory and a measure of worth

Goose - I've lost track of which one of us is doing the fishing and who is doing the biting! Wink


Don't worry you'll get your revenge when Surrey win Division 2 next year Whistle

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 06 Jun 2019, 8:59 am

Points Table after Match 9:

115: Robbo
110: Goose
110: Alfie
100: Pal Joey
95 : Duty
90 : James
90 : MfC
85 : Dolphin
80 : Tiger
75 : Olly
75 : Guildford
70 : KP_fan
55 : Jules
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Post by JuliusHMarx on Thu 06 Jun 2019, 9:56 am

White ball cricket isn't proper cricket anyway.

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 06 Jun 2019, 10:52 am

JuliusHMarx wrote:White ball cricket isn't proper cricket anyway.

Hang in there Jules. Your bold predictions may pay off sooner than you think. Wink
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Post by Gooseberry on Thu 06 Jun 2019, 2:15 pm

Games 11 to 20 before i forget :

Pakistan C  ...although I suspect this one will be NR looking at the forecast
Eng E
NZ T
India N 
Windies C
Bang C
Aus E GOLD
India C
Eng C
Aus E

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 06 Jun 2019, 6:46 pm

Thanks Gooseberry.  OK

Points Table after Match 10:

130 : Goose
130 : Alfie
125 : Robbo
120 : Pal Joey
110 : James
110 : MfC
105 : Duty
105 : Guildford
95 : Dolphin
95 : Tiger
75 : Olly
70 : KP_fan
55 : Jules

Aus - N result... by 15 runs.
Guildford's golden match - he scored 30 points for selecting Aus - C.
MfC, James and myself got the correct result along with Alfie and Goose; who both now share the lead on 130 points.
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Post by JuliusHMarx on Thu 06 Jun 2019, 8:01 pm

So today was Aus - N. Do people get points for being one rung away i.e. Aus - C?

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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 1:09 am

JuliusHMarx wrote:So today was Aus - N. Do people get points for being one rung away i.e. Aus - C?

Yes, 10 for the win; 5 points for being one rung away.

Beautifully simple isn't it? It's built on the following premise: near enough is sometimes good enough but only to a lesser degree.
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Post by LondonTiger on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 8:17 am

Games 11-21 (21 starts before 20 finishes so including just in case)


Pakistan C (v Sri Lanka)
England N (v Bangladesh)
New Zealand E (v Afghanistan)
India N (v Australia)
West Indies C (v SA)
Bangladesh C (v SL)
Australia C (v Pakistan)
India N (v NZ)
England N (v WI)
Australia E (v SL)
South Africa C (v Afghanistan)


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Post by alfie on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 8:19 am

11-20

Pak C
Eng C
NZ E
Ind N
SAF C
Bang C
Aus E
Ind N
Eng C
Aus E (Golden)

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 8:31 am

Match 11: Pakistan T
Match 12: England T
Match 13: NZ - C
Match 14: Australia - N (Golden)
Match 15: West Indies - E
Match 16: Bangladesh - C
Match 17: Australia - N
Match 18: India - E
Match 19: England - N
Match 20: Australia - T
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 8:54 am

11 thru 20...thx

Pakistan (N)
Bangladesh( N)
NZ(T)
India (C)
SA (C)
SL( C)
Pak (N)
NZ (N)
WI(C)
Aus (T)-Golden Match


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Post by LondonTiger on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 8:57 am

KP_fan wrote:11 thru 20...thx

Pakistan (N)
Bangladesh( N)
NZ(T)
India (C)
SL( C)
Pak (N)
NZ (N)
WI(C)
Aus (T)
SA ( T)

Have you missed game 15 - WI v SA?

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 9:20 am

Pal Joey wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:So today was Aus - N. Do people get points for being one rung away i.e. Aus - C?

Yes, 10 for the win; 5 points for being one rung away.

Beautifully simple isn't it? It's built on the following premise: near enough is sometimes good enough but only to a lesser degree.

Surely WI - N is only one rung away from Aus - N but in the other direction to AUS - C. Predicting a 1 run victory by team 1, when team 2 wins by 1 wicket, is deserving of 5 points.


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Post by Duty281 on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 9:24 am

Pak - E
Eng - E
NZ - E
Ind - N
SA - N
Bangladesh - C
Aus - C
NZ - C
Eng - E
Aus - T (Golden Point)

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 9:31 am

Narrow, Comfortable, Easy, Thrashing

Match 11: Pakistan - E
Match 12: England - E
Match 13: New Zealand - E
Match 14: India - N
Match 15: West Indies - C
Match 16: Sri Lanka - N
Match 17: Australia - C
Match 18: India - C
Match 19: England - N
Match 20: Australia - T

Can I have Sri Lanka there as a placeholder?

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 9:32 am

Sri Lanka - N
England - C
New Zealand - E - golden duck
India - N
West Indies - N
Sri Lanka - N
Australia - C
NZ - N
England - N
Australia - C

Predicted Total - 25 points

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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 10:16 am

Pakistan C
England C
New Zealand E (Golden match)
Australia N
South Africa N
Sri Lanka C
Australia E
NZ N
WI N
Australia C

South Africa E


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Post by guildfordbat on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 10:17 am

My predictions / kisses of death:

11. Pakistan - C
12. England - T
13. NZ - E
14. India - E
15. WI - C
16. SL - C
17. Australia - E
18. India - E
19. WI - N
20. Australia - T GOLD

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Post by KP_fan on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 10:22 am

LondonTiger wrote:
KP_fan wrote:11 thru 20...thx

Pakistan (N)
Bangladesh( N)
NZ(T)
India (C)
SL( C)
Pak (N)
NZ (N)
WI(C)
Aus (T)
SA ( T)

Have you missed game 15 - WI v SA?

Thanks...I fixed and resubmitted
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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 10:24 am

Thanks for your selections everyone... good luck!
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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 07 Jun 2019, 12:38 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
Pal Joey wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:So today was Aus - N. Do people get points for being one rung away i.e. Aus - C?

Yes, 10 for the win; 5 points for being one rung away.

Beautifully simple isn't it? It's built on the following premise: near enough is sometimes good enough but only to a lesser degree.

Surely WI - N is only one rung away from Aus - N but in the other direction to AUS - C. Predicting a 1 run victory by team 1, when team 2 wins by 1 wicket, is deserving of 5 points.

I can see what you're getting at; and I was thinking about that too. However, picking the winner is paramount obviously.

The degree of winning margin is relevant for the winning team only.

It's not like a continuous open series (...-LT-LE-LC-LN-WN-WC-WE-WT-LT-LE-LC-LN-WN-WC-WE-WT-...) where LN is only one rung off WN.
Imagine if your team gets thrashed (0 for wrong pick) do you also expect 5 points for the thrashing even though it was done by the other team?

I went with the harsher option. If you don't pick the winner - then no points whatsoever. So a closed series of possible outcomes for the winner only.
Consider a table top with sheer cliffs at each end but only for the winning team. (-X-...WN-WC-WE-WT...-X-) where -X- are the cliff edges. steam

It'a much easier for me to manage too - just bang in a 10 or a 5... and up pops the new total. 0 is the default of course. Laugh
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Post by James100 on Sat 08 Jun 2019, 10:45 am

For today's games England and New Zealand both comfortable, will do the rest when I get a minute. Cheers

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Post by guildfordbat on Sat 08 Jun 2019, 10:52 am

Pal Joey wrote:
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I went with the harsher option. If you don't pick the winner - then no points whatsoever. ...

Quite right too. Proper old school. You win or you come nowhere. Smile

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat 08 Jun 2019, 10:55 am

James100 wrote:For today's games England and New Zealand both comfortable, will do the rest when I get a minute. Cheers

Cheers James. OK

Just waiting for Mad for Chelsea now.
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Post by James100 on Sat 08 Jun 2019, 11:05 am

Match 12: England - C
Match 13: New Zealand - C
Match 14: India - C
Match 15: West Indies - C
Match 16: Bangladesh - C
Match 17: Australia - E
Match 18: India - C
Match 19: England - C
Match 20: Australia - E GOLD

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat 08 Jun 2019, 11:05 am

guildfordbat wrote:
Pal Joey wrote:
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I went with the harsher option. If you don't pick the winner - then no points whatsoever.  ...

Quite right too. Proper old school. You win or you come nowhere. Smile

I took my inspiration from Tomkinson's Schooldays.
Now... if you'll excuse me... I have to go and look for the school leopard. Smile

Thanks James.
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Post by JuliusHMarx on Sat 08 Jun 2019, 5:52 pm

guildfordbat wrote:
Pal Joey wrote:
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I went with the harsher option. If you don't pick the winner - then no points whatsoever.  ...

Quite right too. Proper old school. You win or you come nowhere. Smile

Nowhere it is, then.

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Post by Pal Joey on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 8:43 am

Points Table after Match 13:

175 : Robbo
170 : Pal Joey
160 : Goose
160 : Alfie
145 : Tiger
145 : Guildford
140 : Duty
135 : James
130 : Dolphin
110 : MfC
110 : Olly
105 : Jules
85 : KP_fan

Robbo got 30 points for his ENG-E golden match and is back in the lead on 175 points.
Tiger, Julius and myself each scored 40 points for picking NZ-E for our golden match.
Guildford got 40 points for correctly picking both ENG-T and NZ-E, so is now surging up the ranks.
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Post by Gooseberry on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 9:00 am

Ooof Plunkett cost me dear by going bananas at the death and bowling cheaply! 7 runs from being spot on and costing robbo his gold.
That'll teach me to play tactics!

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Post by guildfordbat on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 10:52 am

Gooseberry wrote:Ooof Plunkett cost me dear by going bananas at the death and bowling cheaply! 7 runs from being spot on and costing robbo his gold.
That'll teach me to play tactics!

Hi goose - if it's any consolation (and I'm not too upset it isn't Wink ) Coulter- Nile's last over of Australia's game against the Windies going for 4 boundaries cost me maximum points by 1 run! mad Very Happy

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Post by Pal Joey on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 12:25 am

Points Table after Match 14:

195 : Robbo
175 : Goose
175 : Alfie
170 : Pal Joey
160 : Tiger
160 : Guildford
155 : Duty
155 : James
145 : Dolphin
120 : Jules
110 : MfC
110 : Olly
105 : KP_fan

Well done to KP_f, Robbo and James who correctly picked India C.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 9:38 am

Hiya,

Was away last week at a conference (working for a change), so rather falling behind on this, but going to get my predictions in for matches 15-20 anyway, if that's ok. Thanks for the reminder Pal.

Match 15: South Africa - C
Match 16: Bangladesh - E
Match 17: Australia - N
Match 18: New Zealand - N
Match 19: England - E
Match 20: Australia - T (golden match)

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Post by Pal Joey on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 10:53 am

Thanks MfC... good to see you back.
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Post by Pal Joey on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 10:16 pm

Points Table after Match 17:

225 : Robbo
205 : Goose
190 : Alfie
185 : Pal Joey
185 : James
180 : Tiger
175 : Guildford
175 : Duty
165 : Dolphin
140 : Jules
125 : MfC
125 : Olly
105 : KP_fan


Last edited by Pal Joey on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 10:44 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Corrected to Match 17)
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Post by JuliusHMarx on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 10:40 pm

You mean after match 17?

How did some people get 30 points off that match?

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Post by Pal Joey on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 10:50 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:You mean after match 17?

How did some people get 30 points off that match?

Yes, as in the OP. Forgot to edit the last posting. All fixed now.

Goose, Robbo and James all won 30 points (AUS-E) as this was their golden match.

You, Duty, Flipper and Tiger all got a maximum 20 points for AUS-C.

Sarfaraz the rest of us... Alfie, Olly, MfC, Guildfordbat and myself were one rung off and scored 15 points.
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Post by JuliusHMarx on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:09 pm

Ah ok, I think I understand how it works. You can get up to 40 points for golden match, but only 30 if you get the margin one rung away (15 x 2)?


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Post by Pal Joey on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:22 pm

That's right. One rung away is 15 points. 30 points (double) for your golden match.

It's Asif you never went to Maths class, Jules.
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Post by JuliusHMarx on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:33 pm

I know, it's pathetic really, considering I invented the Duckworth Lewis method.

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