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Post by LondonTiger on Tue 11 Jun 2019, 12:48 pm

Table

New Zealand5 9 1.591
England581.862
Australia580.812
India471.029
Bangladesh55-0.27
Sri Lanka54-1.778
West Indies530.272
South Africa53-0.193
Pakistan53-1.933
Afghanistan50-2.089
Pool Fixtures

Thu, May 30 
10:30 England vs South Africa  (The Oval)

Fri, May 31 
10:30 West Indies vs Pakistan (Trent Bridge)

Sat, Jun 1 
10:30 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka (Cardiff)
13:30 Afghanistan vs Australia (Bristol)

Sun, Jun 2 
10:30 South Africa vs Bangladesh (The Oval)

Mon, Jun 3 
10:30 England vs Pakistan (Trent Bridge)

Tue, Jun 4 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka (Cardiff)

Wed, Jun 5 
10:30 South Africa vs India (Southampton)
13:30 Bangladesh vs New Zealand (The Oval)

Thu, Jun 6 
10:30 Australia vs West Indies (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 7 
10:30 Pakistan vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)

Sat, Jun 8 
10:30 England vs Bangladesh (Cardiff)
13:30 Afghanistan vs New Zealand (Taunton)

Sun, Jun 9 
10:30 Australia vs India (The Oval)

Mon, Jun 10 
10:30 South Africa vs West Indies (Southampton)

Tue, Jun 11 
10:30 Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)

Wed, Jun 12 
10:30 Australia vs Pakistan (Taunton)

Thu, Jun 13 
10:30 India vs New Zealand (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 14 
10:30 England vs West Indies (Southampton)

Sat, Jun 15 
10:30 Australia vs Sri Lanka (The Oval)
13:30 Afghanistan vs South Africa (Cardiff)

Sun, Jun 16 
10:30 India vs Pakistan (Old Trafford)

Mon, Jun 17 
10:30 Bangladesh vs West Indies (Taunton)

Tue, Jun 18 
10:30 England vs Afghanistan (Old Trafford)

Wed, Jun 19 
10:30 New Zealand vs South Africa (Edgbaston)

Thu, Jun 20 
10:30 Australia vs Bangladesh (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 21 
10:30 England vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)

Sat, Jun 22 
10:30 Afghanistan vs India (Southampton)
13:30 New Zealand vs West Indies (Old Trafford)

Sun, Jun 23 
10:30 Pakistan vs South Africa (Lord’s)

Mon, Jun 24 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Bangladesh (Southampton)

Tue, Jun 25 
10:30 England vs Australia (Lord’s)

Wed, Jun 26 
10:30 New Zealand vs Pakistan (Edgbaston)

Thu, Jun 27 
10:30 India vs West Indies (Old Trafford)

Fri, Jun 28 
10:30 South Africa vs Sri Lanka (Edgbaston)

Sat, Jun 29 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Pakistan (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs New Zealand (Lord’s)

Sun, Jun 30 
10:30 England vs India (Edgbaston)

Mon, Jul 1 
10:30 Sri Lanka vs West Indies (Riverside Ground)

Tue, Jul 2 
10:30 Bangladesh vs India (Edgbaston)

Wed, Jul 3 
10:30 England vs New Zealand (Riverside Ground)

Thu, Jul 4 
10:30 Afghanistan vs West Indies (Headingley)

Fri, Jul 5 
10:30 Bangladesh vs Pakistan (Lord’s)

Sat, Jul 6 
10:30 India vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs South Africa (Old Trafford)




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Post by LondonTiger on Tue 11 Jun 2019, 12:49 pm

Was asked to update the original post with results and table - but as that thread is about to implode having reached the maximum posts have created a new thread instead.

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Post by Duty281 on Tue 11 Jun 2019, 12:56 pm

Meanwhile, it looks like any faint hope we had of seeing a contest at Bristol has been extinguished by the constant rain. What a miserable cricketing week this is going to be.

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Post by robbo277 on Tue 11 Jun 2019, 1:17 pm

Went to watch South Africa vs West Indies yesterday, bit of a disaster all round.

My friend forgot his wallet so had to go back to get it, meaning we set off 30 minutes late. In the end we got to Southampton Central and realised this wasn't actually the station we were meant to go to. A quick taxi to the ground and we arrived around 11:30. We therefore missed all 7.3 overs and saw no cricket. Full refund on the tickets, but obviously train fares and the day off work are sunk costs.

While we were waiting, hopeful for the scheduled game to resume, we purchased a bat and ball and started our own game in the rain just by the Colin Ingleby-MacKenzie stand. At one point the game was stopped as Sir Clive Lloyd was escorted into the ground and presumably to a VIP area. He declined to have a bat.

Not how I envisaged my trip out to a Cricket World Cup game, but we did what we could with the cards we were dealt and it ended up being a decent day out.

In terms of the standings, I wonder how these washouts will factor into the final equation. Not sure if Bangladesh or Sri Lanka will trouble the latter stages and South Africa are now needing a miracle, but both Pakistan and the West Indies will feel the weather has robbed them of a point, and with both teams as realistic outsiders for the top 4 this could end up being a crucial point for one of them.

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Post by KP_fan on Tue 11 Jun 2019, 2:55 pm

BD with their captain Mashrafe Mortaza struggling to run in and deliver at even 120kph
& Shakib reportedly with strained / inflamed quadriceps would feel a welcome break to get a point.

Lanka meanwhile rests-n-relax and has accumulated 4 point beating only Afg  Rolling Eyes

Having to face passionate supporters at home...they cannot go back with just an Afghan win.....so at some point they will gather themselves, rise and spoil someone's party
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Post by Gooseberry on Tue 11 Jun 2019, 9:24 pm

Trouble is KPF just a point against one of the weakest teams makes qualification near impossible for them and pretty much ends that dream. A win was really needed there. It was always an outside shot but it robs them of a chance of glory. Again a its one of those sides chasing the big 4 thats lost out on a chance to pressure them. The injuries are a problem, but even if they were an outside bet to win the game the chance of a win is more important than the single point.
For Sri Lanka as you say its lifted them to what appears a respectable position despite being rank awful, and pretty much guaranteed they wont finish bottom even if Afghan pull a shock win somewhere.

Tomorrows game might start a touch late but should get through a full allocation or close to using the additional hours. Should be a cracker, if the same Pakistan that played England turn up we could have another shock and some real competition again.
India New Zealand sadly looks in a lot of danger with rain forecast all day. That would have been a cracker of a fixture. a point a piece wont worry either team uduly though.
Friday in Southampton should be dry for England and whats almost a must win fixture for the west Indies. The two most exciting Batting line ups and some sunshine, and a lot of pressure on England.
The dry weather should stay after that by the looks of it, maybe some showers affecting Pakistan India on Sunday but should be enough play for a game. That really would be sad to see rained off.

Possibly some showers in the North West which could hit the Pakistan India game at Old Trafford, but not enough to rain it off. Generally getting warmer and drier over the next two weeks though.

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Post by guildfordbat on Tue 11 Jun 2019, 9:49 pm

Clearly Surrey's Guildford outground should be a World Cup venue! Wink 95 overs there today before bad light ended play. Ok, we were lucky with the weather today but the groundstaff deserve medals after yesterday's torrential rain.

Robbo - lovely tragi-comic post of your trip to the Rose Bowl (I believe it's being called that again for the WC!). I've never been there but have heard a few horror stories of people getting lost on the way or even unable to get out of the car park to leave! A few years back, one of my daughters went to the hotel at the ground for a university Christmas do - she and her fellow students ended up being snowed in and the coach was very late to take them back to Southampton Uni. The hotel staff weren't happy about them even waiting in the foyer!

Galted - cool. I had a few other issues this am and was probably a bit snotty anyway. Hug

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Post by Gooseberry on Tue 11 Jun 2019, 10:05 pm

Have to say I'm quite surprised by the spread of games. Wondering how so many ended up in a relatively tight Bristol/Taunton/Cardiff area when theres many better venues underutilised. Seems the later group games are more Nothern based plus a couple are Lords.
I guess it's just a logistics thing to save on road miles but it seems kinda weird. And really there could've been more in the big London venues as much as that would pea off the regionals.


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Post by KP_fan on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 9:22 am

Gooseberry wrote:Trouble is KPF just a point against one of the weakest teams makes qualification near impossible for them and pretty much ends that dream. A win was really needed there. It was always an outside shot but it robs them of a chance of glory. Again a its one of those sides chasing the big 4 thats lost out on a chance to pressure them. The injuries are a problem, but even if they were an outside bet to win the game the chance of a win is more important than the single point.
For Sri Lanka as you say its lifted them to what appears a respectable position despite being rank awful, and pretty much guaranteed they wont finish bottom even if Afghan pull a shock win somewhere.

As I wrote before the Eng game, BD and their fans realistically do not expect to qualify for last 4....and would be happy if their team finished a credible 6th.....and so between the risk of no points as their 2 stars are injured vs. an assured point yesterday and live to fight another day, the latter is not a bad scenario.

We all agree that rain has robbed the rigor that this format was meant to bring & introduced the "lottery" element that it was meant to eliminate.
How Lanka stand now....they are very likely to spoil someone's party in their remaining games are vs Ind, Eng, Aus and WI
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Post by KP_fan on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 9:32 am

Marcus Stoinis is out of the world cup with a side strain & Mitch Marsh is the cover.....but it seems Shaun Marsh is the one to play today.

I have found a side or groin strain to occur when a seamer tries to bowl faster than his body permits...and we saw Stoinis was trying to hit 135kph.....when he is naturally a 125kph bowler.

Irfan Pathan & Bhuvneshwar in the past has suffered from this and I am afraid even now he is bowling at speeds faster than his body limits.

Aus should replace Zampa with Lyon....so that their 4th bowler is more solid.
and then use Maxwell, Smith etal as 5th bowler
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 9:44 am

I like Zampa and really cant stand Lyon but Lyon is the better bowler so I do not understand why Australia are picking Zampa ahead of Lyon.


Not great news for Stoinis and his absence will certainly affect Australia's chances.
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Post by James100 on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 9:54 am

Rumours are Kane Richardson and Shaun Marsh in for zampa and Stoinis. If correct, I'm surprised to see Richardson get the nod ahead of Behrendorff

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Post by KP_fan on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 10:09 am

Australia 1 David Warner, 2 Aaron Finch (capt), 3 Usman Khawaja, 4 Steven Smith, 5 Shaun Marsh, 6 Glenn Maxwell, 7 Alex Carey (wk), 8 Nathan Coulter-Nile, 9 Pat Cummins, 10 Mitchell Starc, 11 Kane Richardson

Aus dump Zampa...in an all pace attack including Richardson, who looked very impressive when I saw him last against India.
and Marsh in for Stoinis....& so Maxwell and Smith become the primary off and leg spinners....and to me smith is not worse than Zampa as a leggie
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Post by KP_fan on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 10:11 am

My Money ( literally 10$) are on Pak for following reasons:
1-the tournament will open up more and the Aus-Eng game would then be more meaningful
2- Pak will be happy and let their guard down in next game vs India
3- return is a good 2.75 time on Pak Wink
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Post by KP_fan on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 10:17 am

Pak also have dropped Shadab for Shaheen Afridi....in an all pace attack...but as dasicussed before their 5th and 6th bowlers i.e spin of Shoaib and Hajeez is quite handy
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Post by Duty281 on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 10:19 am

Blimey, we'll see some cricket today! And a result!

Great toss for Pakistan to win. An early chance for them to get at Warner, who doesn't seem to be in the best form. Australia haven't really got going in this tournament - beaten comfortably by India, a very scrappy win against the Windies, and a stroll against a hopelessly outmatched Afghanistan side.

Should be a close game, provided we see the Pakistan that played against England just over a week ago.

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 10:35 am

Finch is the key man for the Aussies I feel (although I would not be surprised to see Warner smash his way into form). If Pakistan can remove him early then they will get a huge boost.

Amir bang on the money immediately Very Happy
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Post by Pal Joey on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 10:41 am

Yeah, I think they will take a more aggressive approach this match... which could be dangerous against this attack. Australia need to get through this one after being roughed up nicely by India.
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Post by Duty281 on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 10:47 am

Amir bowling excellently. Shaheen sending down a load of dross.

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 10:59 am

Much better having Hasan Ali bowling in tandem with Amir. Pressure is what Pakistan need to build against these two, especially Warner.
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Post by Pal Joey on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:02 am

Good to see Warner looking happy and relaxed... having a laugh with Malik.

So he's a jolly nice guy after all? Whistle



(or he'd have us believe...)
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:05 am

This is now starting to turn into a very good start for the Aussies.

I really do like Finch, he has such a very balanced approach to the game.
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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:08 am

Looking at the selections then noones expecting much for the spinners. Aus though just seem a bit short on the bowling front. If one of the seamers breaks down ....

Good positive start for them

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:12 am

Far too many bad, inaccurate deliveries from the Pakistanis, and the Aussie openers have duly punished them. 10 overs down with no wicket - Australia should be setting something highly challenging here.

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Post by Pal Joey on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:17 am

Gooseberry wrote:Looking at the selections then noones expecting much for the spinners. Aus though just seem a bit short on the bowling front. If one of the seamers breaks down ....

Good positive  start for them

Maybe could have 'rested' Khawaja and bought in Lyons... move Carey up. That would be a much more balanced side.
But then again, Usman might have some luck this time at this type of ground? Though I like watching Lyons bat too... Wink

Duty281 wrote:Far too many bad, inaccurate deliveries from the Pakistanis, and the Aussie openers have duly punished them. 10 overs down with no wicket - Australia should be setting something highly challenging here.

Par score is 316 for ODIs on this ground? This season or last? Do you know off the top of your head, Duty?
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:22 am

The conditions were there for Pakistan to take 1 or 2 wickets in the opening 10 overs. Chances were there but Pakistan's opening attack has been seen off by the Aussie batsmen with relative ease.

Not good signs for all the other teams that Warner is looking to have regained some of his confidence, he will only improve.
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Post by Duty281 on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:26 am

Pal Joey wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Far too many bad, inaccurate deliveries from the Pakistanis, and the Aussie openers have duly punished them. 10 overs down with no wicket - Australia should be setting something highly challenging here.

Par score is 316 for ODIs on this ground? This season or last? Do you know off the top of your head, Duty?

Think this is only the second ODI to be played at Taunton since 1999! Wouldn't know the par scores for Somerset games, but Taunton's renowned for short boundaries and flat wickets.

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:27 am

eirebilly wrote:The conditions were there for Pakistan to take 1 or 2 wickets in the opening 10 overs. Chances were there but Pakistan's opening attack has been seen off by the Aussie batsmen with relative ease.

Not good signs for all the other teams that Warner is looking to have regained some of his confidence, he will only improve.

And now a shocker from Pakistan in the slip cordon. Early days, but this game is already getting away from them.

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:34 am

That's a poor miss from Pakistan, you cant drop those.

Very good review though and unfortunate for Pakistan that it was umpires call. Still no lost review.
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:41 am

Excellent 50 from Finch. This now has very big score written all over it.
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Post by Duty281 on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:51 am

eirebilly wrote:Excellent 50 from Finch. This now has very big score written all over it.

Indeed. After the potency of the new ball ebbed away, it has turned out to be a great batting track, albeit helped by poor bowling, bad fielding, and short boundaries.

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Post by alfie on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 11:52 am

Australia in charge here...very good start : reckon Pakistan bowled way too much short stuff.
This ought to become a damn good score - especially as the Australian batting has been lengthened today. Of course the other side of that is their bowling looks a bit light , the fifth bowler Maxwell/Smith might be a source of runs. But they won't really miss the filth Zampa sent down the other day and I think Richardson is a far better bowler than Stoinis so maybe no worse off on balance...

The joker in the pack today is the weather . Looks as if it is possible rain may arrive at some point and D/L makes a bit of a circus of targets and chases. Though I just heard the commentator say it is looking clearer so maybe a full day of cricket ?

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 12:10 pm

Finch will be very upset with himself after that. Well bowled Amir but the shot was not required.
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Post by Duty281 on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 12:13 pm

Story of the innings so far - Amir bowls a nigh-on unplayable over. The next bowler follows it up with a load of garbage.

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 12:19 pm

Agree Duty, Pakistan really could have had the Aussies in a world of pain had just 1 other bowler supported Amir and built pressure.
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 12:20 pm

If the Aussies keep going like this then 400 is not unachievable from here...
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 12:21 pm

What a poor review...
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Post by Duty281 on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 12:35 pm

Terrible number of overthrows and no-balls from Pakistan. Anyway, they've got an unlikely second wicket, they'll still be hoping to force a collapse.

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Post by KP_fan on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 12:47 pm

Looks Like Aus will crush Pak today by more than a 100 runs Crying or Very sad
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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 12:51 pm

Typical Pakistan would only try against England isnt it! 

The hopes of an interesting run in to the semi finals dwindle....

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 12:56 pm

KP_fan wrote:Looks Like Aus will crush  Pak today by more than a 100 runs Crying or Very sad


I would not right Pakistan off just yet, they have the batting ability to chase a good total and the Aussies may yet have a dip...
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 12:59 pm

Just like that Very Happy
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Post by Duty281 on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 1:00 pm

Well a couple of quick wickets from this position - 226/3 - and the game goes back into the balance. Aussies have shown a tendency to gift their wickets this morning.

Oooh, Warner brings up his century with a lucky edge between keeper + first slip.

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 1:07 pm

Another regulation drop in the field. Unprofessional, embarrassing stuff.

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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 1:07 pm

eirebilly wrote:
KP_fan wrote:Looks Like Aus will crush  Pak today by more than a 100 runs Crying or Very sad


I would not right Pakistan off just yet, they have the batting ability to chase a good total and the Aussies may yet have a dip...


Yeah Hafeez could really go to town on Maxwell and Aus have left themselves short on bowling options. Anything around the 350 mark they are capable of chasing, theyve hit around that score a number of times recently. Aus have a more stacked batting line up this game though, and Warners confidence coming back is pretty ominous. 
Looking at the state now Im guessing they will score 360 ish ...which does leave Pakistan in the game. If Aus manage 380+ its surely pretty much a done deal. |

So maybe a touch hasty in predictions of doom, but certainly in Australias favour at the moment.

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 1:08 pm

Well played Warner for his 100. Do we now see him really go for it as Marsh is not exactly the quickest scorer.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 1:08 pm

Pakistan's fielding today giving the word "village" a bad name. That drop off Warner just an absolute shocker. Marvellous double teapot from the guy behind him in the crowd mind.

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 1:11 pm

Its not just today that Pakistan's fielding has been bad, it was awful in the warm up matches and poor so far in the WC. They are consistently poor in the field.
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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 1:13 pm

eirebilly wrote:Its not just today that Pakistan's fielding has been bad, it was awful in the warm up matches and poor so far in the WC.  They are consistently poor in the field.


Something about that England game!

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 12 Jun 2019, 1:14 pm

Wow, they hold on to one and Warner goes. Still got a chance of keeping the Aussies below 330, if they get more wickets, which will keep them in the contest.

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