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ICC Cricket World Cup - Part 4
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Yes, England expected to be unchanged. Long boundaries apparently, which will suit England's excellent running ability!
If there were a decent replacement in the wings, I think Rashid's place would be under severe threat. He's got figures of 7/403 from 69 overs in the World Cup so far, which is hardly illuminating stuff.
Yes, England expected to be unchanged. Long boundaries apparently, which will suit England's excellent running ability!
If there were a decent replacement in the wings, I think Rashid's place would be under severe threat. He's got figures of 7/403 from 69 overs in the World Cup so far, which is hardly illuminating stuff.
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Dolphin Ziggler wrote:India 2/1, Duty. You’d be a brave man
Would be a very foolish man. Can't see how India can row back to safety from here.
Stat just flashed up that 69% of India's runs at this World Cup have been scored by the top three...they're all gone now. They don't have the depth to score the 230 runs left, in all probability.
Win predictor apparently has NZ with a 30% chance...clearly broken!
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Wow, what on earth is going on out there. Henry is usually pretty average but seems to be on fire today
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Managed to get my final £14 in my account on India in play at 3/1 when Rahul fell - still fancy them to do this, it's got a Jadeja cameo seeing them over the line written all over it
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Yeah this isn't over, that extra batting in the team is looking like a very smart move. The lineup they'd generally been using would be done for already
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India already coming in, odds shortening. Is it reputation, confidence or foolishness?
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NZ have certainly had the start they wanted
Are India gone ? Not quite yet I'd say : I have a bit of time for Pant - and Jadeja later on. Plus they have Dhoni and Pandya so not exactly down to the tail. But they really need a serious partnership now from these two or it's going to be tough. Can't be taking risks to score either in this position...
See off these two and we need to consider the NZ change bowlers : might not be a stellar group but they have plenty of options. While in favour of India is that NZ total wasn't a monster so they can go carefully for a while without the RRR getting ridiculous.
Super catch Neesham 24/4...
Are India gone ? Not quite yet I'd say : I have a bit of time for Pant - and Jadeja later on. Plus they have Dhoni and Pandya so not exactly down to the tail. But they really need a serious partnership now from these two or it's going to be tough. Can't be taking risks to score either in this position...
See off these two and we need to consider the NZ change bowlers : might not be a stellar group but they have plenty of options. While in favour of India is that NZ total wasn't a monster so they can go carefully for a while without the RRR getting ridiculous.
Super catch Neesham 24/4...
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Ah, another supreme catch. Everything falling sweetly for the Kiwis. India nearly finished off now.
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Reckon your 14 pounds are hanging by a thread , Olly
Pandya in ahead of Dhoni ? Not sure that's smart...
Pandya in ahead of Dhoni ? Not sure that's smart...
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Is Dhoni injured? Surely you'd want your most experienced man out there in a time of great strife?
For India to come back, they need one batsman to make a century and another to make a 50+. You just can't see who's going to deliver that from what's left. And it won't be too long before the RRR goes over 6 which presents extra problems.
For India to come back, they need one batsman to make a century and another to make a 50+. You just can't see who's going to deliver that from what's left. And it won't be too long before the RRR goes over 6 which presents extra problems.
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Dhoni is too busy playing his bat as a flute.
Pant looks in good shape
Pant looks in good shape
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Pandya dropped ! Ferguson's first ball... That would really have had India reeling...not that they're exactly looking smooth at the moment
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India needs to counter attack......judiciously and not think about consequence any more
DK was too muhc in a shell and Rahul's dismissal symptomtic of pressure
DK was too muhc in a shell and Rahul's dismissal symptomtic of pressure
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What a dive from Guptil. He never fail to impress. Really NZ has a better fielding than India.
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Commentry box looks improved today. Isha Guha is quite impressive and Harsh too improved from his last day nostalgia fever.
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Duty281 wrote:Is Dhoni injured? Surely you'd want your most experienced man out there in a time of great strife?
For India to come back, they need one batsman to make a century and another to make a 50+. You just can't see who's going to deliver that from what's left. And it won't be too long before the RRR goes over 6 which presents extra problems.
Yeah I would have thought Dhoni was the man best equipped to rebuild the innings. Pant and Pandya can both really hit the ball and are fine for a late charge ...but are they up for a long innings ? Suppose Pant could make a hundred - and he'd make it fast. But if he comes out they are running out of resources...
India having a bit of luck now ...Pandya might very well have been caught then. Had no idea where that pull was going.
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These two have done well to push on to 70 after 20. De Grandhomme a bit too straight and got picked off...crucial time now as Santner comes on.
And a good first over. Bit of turn for him. Who will India target ?
RRR still under six so no alarms on that front. But partnerships are important.
And a good first over. Bit of turn for him. Who will India target ?
RRR still under six so no alarms on that front. But partnerships are important.
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Pant loses the patience battle and the game is done.
Kohli furious.
Kohli furious.
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Pant holes out...not really a surprise. Santner bowling well. NZ closing in...
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oh dear that was a bit pants
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Oh wow.
Well.
How short is that boundary?
Well.
How short is that boundary?
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New Zealand deserve it, great bowling performance!
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If anyone can save India from here it is Dhoni. But it is asking a lot .
If these two can put a hundred stand together then Jadeja might yet bring them home I suppose. But not sure there will be many Indian fans lining up at the bookies to take the odds on offer...
If these two can put a hundred stand together then Jadeja might yet bring them home I suppose. But not sure there will be many Indian fans lining up at the bookies to take the odds on offer...
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Olly hows your pocket money looking now?
About as good value as Duty backing the afghani lad as top wicket taker?
About as good value as Duty backing the afghani lad as top wicket taker?
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Gooseberry wrote:Olly hows your pocket money looking now?
About as good value as Duty backing the afghani lad as top wicket taker?
Thankfully, near enough everything else has come up roses!
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India needs a 60 run partnership from these two to stay in the hunt
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We know India are a good batting side (?)
So what explains this:
5 runs for 3 wickets after 3.1 ovs
24 runs for 4 wickets after 9.6 ovs
71 runs for 5 wickets after 22.5 ovs
Clearly the NZ bowlers must be bowling nearly perfectly. But I assume the atmospheric conditions is causing the ball to move about in the air unpredictably? And maybe more so than yesterday. Is it late swing inwards and outwards, extremely fast balls, uneven bounce ... unpredictable spin ...?
So what explains this:
5 runs for 3 wickets after 3.1 ovs
24 runs for 4 wickets after 9.6 ovs
71 runs for 5 wickets after 22.5 ovs
Clearly the NZ bowlers must be bowling nearly perfectly. But I assume the atmospheric conditions is causing the ball to move about in the air unpredictably? And maybe more so than yesterday. Is it late swing inwards and outwards, extremely fast balls, uneven bounce ... unpredictable spin ...?
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No name Bertie wrote:We know India are a good batting side (?)
So what explains this:
5 runs for 3 wickets after 3.1 ovs
24 runs for 4 wickets after 9.6 ovs
71 runs for 5 wickets after 22.5 ovs
Clearly the NZ bowlers must be bowling nearly perfectly. But I assume the atmospheric conditions is causing the ball to move about in the air unpredictably? And maybe more so than yesterday. Is it late swing inwards and outwards, extremely fast balls, uneven bounce ... unpredictable spin ...?
The New Zealand bowlers have managed to get 5 of the Indian batsmen out, for not very many runs. That's what explains it
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ps I assume India are going to be bowled out for under 200 here.
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That explains nothing - that is just a trivial description.Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:No name Bertie wrote:We know India are a good batting side (?)
So what explains this:
5 runs for 3 wickets after 3.1 ovs
24 runs for 4 wickets after 9.6 ovs
71 runs for 5 wickets after 22.5 ovs
Clearly the NZ bowlers must be bowling nearly perfectly. But I assume the atmospheric conditions is causing the ball to move about in the air unpredictably? And maybe more so than yesterday. Is it late swing inwards and outwards, extremely fast balls, uneven bounce ... unpredictable spin ...?
The New Zealand bowlers have managed to get 5 of the Indian batsmen out, for not very many runs. That's what explains it
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No name Bertie wrote:We know India are a good batting side (?)
So what explains this:
5 runs for 3 wickets after 3.1 ovs
24 runs for 4 wickets after 9.6 ovs
71 runs for 5 wickets after 22.5 ovs
Clearly the NZ bowlers must be bowling nearly perfectly. But I assume the atmospheric conditions is causing the ball to move about in the air unpredictably? And maybe more so than yesterday. Is it late swing inwards and outwards, extremely fast balls, uneven bounce ... unpredictable spin ...?
Good bowling. Poor batting. Pressure. Pitch is giving the bowlers some help , as it did yesterday ; but it's not a minefield.
Semi final pressure is a big factor.
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RRR going above 7.5...these two are going to have to attack sooner rather than later. Jadeja in next, but he hasn't batted in over a month.
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Dhoni batting slowly so far. Its the right thing to do in this situation, but I dread to think what cricinfo comments will say about it
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Santner is really strangling them...and now he's sucked Pandya in ...to his doom. Good catch for the skipper
Fat lady warming up...
Fat lady warming up...
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And they're already coming in. On a pitch where every batsman has struggled to score, with 5 down and staring into the abyss, Dhoni should be whacking every other ball for 6
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No name Bertie wrote:We know India are a good batting side (?)
So what explains this:
5 runs for 3 wickets after 3.1 ovs
24 runs for 4 wickets after 9.6 ovs
71 runs for 5 wickets after 22.5 ovs
Clearly the NZ bowlers must be bowling nearly perfectly. But I assume the atmospheric conditions is causing the ball to move about in the air unpredictably? And maybe more so than yesterday. Is it late swing inwards and outwards, extremely fast balls, uneven bounce ... unpredictable spin ...?
Kohli's 3rd WC semi in a row for a grand total of 11 runs. Conditions similar for both teams but NZ managed to grind their way to a total. India have crumbled slightly under pressure with poor shots for at least 3 of the wickets.
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India had one chink in their armory & that was the middle order
and pressure cracked that open.....and NZ have put 2 fingers in it and ripped it apart.
It's all but gone now...one of Pandya or Pant had to get a big 80 odd if not a hundred.......now almost impoissble
and pressure cracked that open.....and NZ have put 2 fingers in it and ripped it apart.
It's all but gone now...one of Pandya or Pant had to get a big 80 odd if not a hundred.......now almost impoissble
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NZ were exceptional with the new ball. The first two dismissals were exemplary. That exposed the weaknesses in the middle and lower order, which were always a worry for India. Since then, we've had one outstanding catch and a couple of bad shots borne out of pressure and the increasing RRR.
India going home.
India going home.
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VTR wrote:Dhoni batting slowly so far. Its the right thing to do in this situation, but I dread to think what cricinfo comments will say about it
I await the 'Dhoni gifted the game to NZ' and 'NZ never threatened India with defeat' comments!
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Time for Dhoni to play for the net run rate
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I did think all along there was enough in this pitch to make anything around 230 or so at least competitive (talk of 300 was clearly fantasy as was obvious after the first few overs) . And it didn't get miraculously easier overnight.
Even so , NZ needed those early wickets. Was a great new ball effort from Henry and Boult.
Jadeja won't go down without a fight . But eight per over from here ? Tall order ...
Even so , NZ needed those early wickets. Was a great new ball effort from Henry and Boult.
Jadeja won't go down without a fight . But eight per over from here ? Tall order ...
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Santer currently 2-12 in 7 overs. Done a brilliant job of keeping the pressure on after Henry and Boult got the perfect start.
Only positive for India is that if they bat 50 overs then NZ still need to find 3 from Neesham or big Colin
Only positive for India is that if they bat 50 overs then NZ still need to find 3 from Neesham or big Colin
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dummy_half wrote:Santer currently 2-12 in 7 overs. Done a brilliant job of keeping the pressure on after Henry and Boult got the perfect start.
Only positive for India is that if they bat 50 overs then NZ still need to find 3 from Neesham or big Colin
Santer is where Ind lost the game decisively....handing him 2 wicktes.......Pant Na Pandya should have played him down the ground
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It's just one of those days when the 9 moons aligned and credit to NZ... they stuck to a task.
We all probably thought 240 runs wasn't enough but it is still 240 runs on the scoreboard.
I would have backed India about 19 times out of 20 to reach that total.
It's the pressure of the World Cup and particular weather conditions combined with a well carried out performance from the Kiwis.
Texts flying back and forth from my Mum and brother boarding a plane to Singapore. None of us also didn't expect this to happen!
Add to that NSW just got home over Qld in the 3rd S.o.O which has just finished a stone's throw from here. It's all hep'ning usn't it?
We all probably thought 240 runs wasn't enough but it is still 240 runs on the scoreboard.
I would have backed India about 19 times out of 20 to reach that total.
It's the pressure of the World Cup and particular weather conditions combined with a well carried out performance from the Kiwis.
Texts flying back and forth from my Mum and brother boarding a plane to Singapore. None of us also didn't expect this to happen!
Add to that NSW just got home over Qld in the 3rd S.o.O which has just finished a stone's throw from here. It's all hep'ning usn't it?
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Having said all of that. It's still not over yet!
9 runs an over needed. 11 to go.
9 runs an over needed. 11 to go.
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These two are terrific competitors. Jadeja still thinks he can do this...
Need nine per over ; but NZ main bowlers are running short of overs. Not impossible.
Ferguson has four overs left which will probably be crucial...
Need nine per over ; but NZ main bowlers are running short of overs. Not impossible.
Ferguson has four overs left which will probably be crucial...
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Pal Joey wrote:Having said all of that. It's still not over yet!
Naah....only a miracle can save India
and miracle inning do not happen in world cup K.Os but only in low pressure bilateral games and IPL
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KP_fan wrote:Pal Joey wrote:Having said all of that. It's still not over yet!
Naah....only a miracle can save India
and miracle inning do not happen in world cup K.Os but only in low pressure bilateral games and IPL
Miracles can happen in World Cups. Trust me. They can.
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No batting left after these two. Two number 11s (Chahal and Bumrah) still to come. The mountain's too big to ascend.
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KP_fan wrote:Pal Joey wrote:Having said all of that. It's still not over yet!
Naah....only a miracle can save India
and miracle inning do not happen in world cup K.Os but only in low pressure bilateral games and IPL
Not a miracle , exactly. Just a really great finish. Jadeja will go after everything - he has nothing to lose. Every ten runs puts a bit of pressure back on NZ.
They got their nine that over
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