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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:02 pm

First topic message reminder :

England have announced their squad for the one off test match against Ireland, it is as follows

Joe Root
James Anderson
Moeen Ali
Jonny Bairstow
Stuart Broad
Rory Burns
Sam Curran
Joe Denly
Lewis Gregory
Jack Leach
Jason Roy
Olly Stone
Chris Woakes

Lewis Gregory, Jason Roy & Olly Stone could make debuts.

James Anderson included & Jack Leach returns.

Buttler and Stokes are rested.

Wood & Archer not considered because of injury. Wood out for 4 to 6 weeks.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:17 am

Good to see people have given him a chance...

Ah Nathaniel being a troll. He was quiet during the WC final....
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:18 am

Two comments i've seen so far are basically that he got a good ball and can be forgiven. I didn't see it though, so can't comment more than what Tufnell and Agnew said

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:19 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Two comments i've seen so far are basically that he got a good ball and can be forgiven. I didn't see it though, so can't comment more than what Tufnell and Agnew said

Yep a classic openers dismissal - pitched on off, nibbled away and took the outside edge. Good bowling by Murtagh
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Post by LondonTiger on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:20 am

A decade ago we started first test at Lords against Australia with an opening partnership of 196 between Strauss and Cook, Trott replaced Bopara at 3 later in the series. Oh what we would give for that top 3 nowadays.

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:21 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Two comments i've seen so far are basically that he got a good ball and can be forgiven. I didn't see it though, so can't comment more than what Tufnell and Agnew said

more worrying that he looked all at sea. lucky when he missed the straight one that it was just a no ball

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:23 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Good to see people have given him a chance...

Ah Nathaniel being a troll. He was quiet during the WC final....
Olly stick to being a casual dear chap.

Roy plays on a flat dead pitch at the Oval yet doesn’t average 40 in red ball cricket.

As for the WC final, Henry showed how clueless Roy was.

Now pipe down


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Post by Gooseberry on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:30 am

How did your mates Smith and Warner get on Nathaniel?

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Post by LondonTiger on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:35 am

Adair getting a little movement both ways in the air.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:43 am

Gooseberry wrote:How did your mates Smith and Warner get on Nathaniel?
Nice try Hammersmith, keep changing your username because you’ve got no mates

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Post by alfie on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:48 am

Ah well ignoring Nathaniel's typically OTT dismissive sledge it seems most viewers not over impressed by Roy's fist Test innings...

On too late to see it myself ; but from the text commentary I gather he was lucky to survive twice and still fell for single figures . To a good ball , I understand. But hardly the start he'd have dreamed of.

Ill be honest : I was never in favour of the Roy as Test opener plan. I don't think his technique is up to it. However his form in the WC and obvious mental strength and confidence , coupled with the dearth of alternatives , had convinced me it was (is) worth giving him a try. The final against NZ in which he was all at sea against Boult and Henry showed what a risky proposition he will be ...and I think today underlined it.
What England are hoping , I presume , is that on a couple of occasions in the Ashes series he's going to manage to survive the first few overs and then rattle the opposing bowlers with a rapid 70 or so. With the bonus that his aggressive approach may soften up the attack much as Trescothick did in his prime. And that this will be worth a few early exits.
Probably shows the low expectations of top three candidates (now ticked again as Denly falls for a frisky twenty ... Stone dead lbw !)

Jury will stay out a while yet : but the Aussies will fancy having Root at the crease inside ten on this showing...

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Post by LondonTiger on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:51 am

Oh FFS

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:52 am

Now this is English cricket

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Post by LondonTiger on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:53 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Now this is English cricket
 Indeed.

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Post by alfie on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:53 am

Burns gone now...

Don't think this will need four days leave alone five.

One thing for sure : this will be England's lowest Test score against Ireland whatever they get Smile

Also their highest.

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:54 am

might aswell get used to this root. top 3 nothing again. our 4,5,6 better have a good summer

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Post by Duty281 on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:54 am

Christ, England's top order is shocking. Zilch defensive technique and no clue on how to build an innings. Ireland put the ball in a decent area, bit of wobble, and England have no clue.

Embarrassing. Got any fourth day tickets for the Ashes? Bin em.

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Post by LondonTiger on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:55 am

Bairstow being told he cannot stand as far out of his crease as he wants to.

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Post by KP_fan on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:56 am

36-3....Ohh boy Shocked
I hope Eng can atleast pull off a draw from here
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:57 am

Duty281 wrote:Christ, England's top order is shocking. Zilch defensive technique and no clue on how to build an innings. Ireland put the ball in a decent area, bit of wobble, and England have no clue.

Embarrassing. Got any fourth day tickets for the Ashes? Bin em.

Ashes tests might be shorter than the India vs NZ world cup semi final!
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Post by compelling and rich on Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:57 am

Duty281 wrote:Christ, England's top order is shocking. Zilch defensive technique and no clue on how to build an innings. Ireland put the ball in a decent area, bit of wobble, and England have no clue.

Embarrassing. Got any fourth day tickets for the Ashes? Bin em.

I had day 3 for old Trafford, managed to swap them for day 1. that's how confident I am Laugh

just the Manchester weather I need to contend with now

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Post by Duty281 on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:01 pm

KP_fan wrote:36-3....Ohh boy Shocked
I hope Eng can atleast pull off a draw from here

England will still win because Ireland are even worse.

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Post by alfie on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:01 pm

Is anyone really surprised ? We know the top three are dodgy to say the least. And credit to Ireland they've bowled well.

Very well ! Now they've got Root !

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Post by LondonTiger on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:02 pm

F*** me backwards this is bad.

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Post by Duty281 on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:02 pm

Oh for goodness sake, that is the worst decision I've seen in my life.

Absolute amateur hour out there. Can test cricket survive when modern batsmen have no clue on the concept of building an innings?

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Post by alfie on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:02 pm

Hope Sam Curran is ready to save the ship again Smile


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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:04 pm

Well, Mo does need some time in the middle...

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Post by Duty281 on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:05 pm

7/4 still available on Australia winning the upcoming series. But they might be even worse than this England side.

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:05 pm

ali to be caught out on the boundary now Laugh

not exactly the man to dig in for England

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Post by alfie on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:06 pm

Duty281 wrote:I would like to be proven wrong, but this Irish test team is likely the weakest test outfit that England have played since the miserable Bangladesh side of 2005 that toured for a couple of thrashings (perfect preparation that was for McGrath/Warne/Ponting/Gilchrist!).

Care to review yet , Duty ?

Of course they still have to bat. But that might be shortly after lunch at this rate Smile

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:06 pm

I like the tactic of letting Sir Chris do all the runs and wickets at Lords again.
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Post by alfie on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:07 pm

...or before lunch , even...Bairstow gone for nothing.!

Will England make 100 ?

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:07 pm

This is madness

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:08 pm

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Post by Duty281 on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:08 pm

alfie wrote:
Duty281 wrote:I would like to be proven wrong, but this Irish test team is likely the weakest test outfit that England have played since the miserable Bangladesh side of 2005 that toured for a couple of thrashings (perfect preparation that was for McGrath/Warne/Ponting/Gilchrist!).

Care to review yet , Duty ?

Of course they still have to bat.  But that might be shortly after lunch at this rate Smile

England are awful, too!

Bairstow's just played the type of shot that should see him hit with a lifetime ban from first-class cricket.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:10 pm

IIRC back in 2016 when Bairstow scored the majority of his Test runs, he proclaimed he didn’t receive enough adulation. After playing a pathetic shot like that he should be punted in the groin.

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Post by alfie on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:10 pm

Woakes gone first ball...

Will they make fifty ?!

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Post by Duty281 on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:10 pm

This is the most embarrassing collapse in recent memory, exceeding even the 58 mustered against New Zealand and the 77 against the Windies.

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Post by eirebilly on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:11 pm

Jaysus…

As much as I am an England fan, I am first and foremost Irish.

What a start for Ireland Very Happy
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:12 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:I like the tactic of letting Sir Chris do all the runs and wickets at Lords again.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:13 pm

If Stirling can slog a few Ireland could have a chance of a monumental upset.

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Post by KP_fan on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:13 pm

Duty281 wrote:
KP_fan wrote:36-3....Ohh boy Shocked
I hope Eng can atleast pull off a draw from here

England will still win because Ireland are even worse.

I want to believe you , but it's looking harder.
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Post by Duty281 on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:13 pm

Five wickets in 20 balls? Bunch of sloggers who don't know how to bat.

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Post by alfie on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:13 pm

Duty281 wrote:
alfie wrote:
Duty281 wrote:I would like to be proven wrong, but this Irish test team is likely the weakest test outfit that England have played since the miserable Bangladesh side of 2005 that toured for a couple of thrashings (perfect preparation that was for McGrath/Warne/Ponting/Gilchrist!).

Care to review yet , Duty ?

Of course they still have to bat.  But that might be shortly after lunch at this rate Smile

England are awful, too!

Bairstow's just played the type of shot that should see him hit with a lifetime ban from first-class cricket.

Well it really should stop the nonsense idea frequently put up - even on here - that he ought to be pushed up the order. He's a good six/seven : No way is he a top order bat.

Unfortunately there don't seem to be any top order bats around today...

WC hangover ?

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Post by eirebilly on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:14 pm

The track looks pretty decent for batting as well which is an even bigger shock...
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:14 pm

England getting the major collapse out of the way before the Ashes, fantastic tactics from Trevor Bayliss and co... Cool
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Post by KP_fan on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:15 pm

Eng are still in a world-cup hangover
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Post by eirebilly on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:16 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:England getting the major collapse out of the way before the Ashes, fantastic tactics from Trevor Bayliss and co... Cool

All jokes aside, it very well probably is. Too much white ball cricket for England must have affected them.

Not complaining mind thumbsup
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Post by eirebilly on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:19 pm

Well Murtagh gets on the honours list at Lords. History in the making for Ireland's test team Very Happy
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:19 pm

This is sensational

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Post by alfie on Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:19 pm

eirebilly wrote:The track looks pretty decent for batting as well which is an even bigger shock...

Think it's quite decent conditions for bowling so far ... Doing a bit...but Ireland have surpassed any expectations Shocked

Seven down ! Murtagh on the honor board inside seventy five minutes clap

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