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Post by Pal Joey on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 11:35 am

71st Ashes Tipping Competition Rules:

1.
Pick 2 (two) batsmen and 2 (two) bowlers from both England and Australia who you think will score the most runs and take the most wickets.
You get both batting and bowling points per innings so a bowler who scores runs has both batting and bowling scores added together.
e.g.
Warner, Smith, Starc, Cummins
Roy, Root, Broad, Woakes


2.
Pick 1 (one) fielder from each team; excluding wicket keepers for most catches in the Series.
It can be a bowler (for c&b) if you want.
e.g.
Stokes, Bancroft


3.
Select the total number of catches, stumpings and run outs combined by each wicket keeper for each Test.
If a wicket keeper is injured then the replacement keeper's figures shall be used.
e.g.
Australia 9, England 9. Total dismissals 18


4.
Predict the Toss:
a) Who wins the toss?
e.g. Australia

b) Winning captain's decision - bat or field?
e.g. Bat

5.
a) Predict the 1st Ashes Test result.
e.g. England

b) Predict the overall Ashes Series result.
e.g. England 3 Australia 2

Selections must be posted a minimum one (1) hour before the commencement of each Test. No PM reminders shall be sent.


Scoring:

1.
1 point for every run scored by your nominated batsmen. Add together for each Test.
Bonus 20 points for 100 runs.
extra 25 points for 150 runs.
extra 40 points for 200 runs.
extra 50 points for 250 runs.
extra 60 bonus points for 300+ runs.

Note: the batting & bowling score bonuses accumulate so;

Batting:
100 runs = 120 points. A player scores 127 + 20 = 147 points.
150 runs = 195 points. A player scores 176 + 20 + 25 = 221 points.
200 runs = 285 points. A player scores 243 + 20 + 25 + 40 = 328 points.
250 runs = 385 points. A player scores 282 + 20 + 25 + 40 + 50 = 417 points
300+ runs = 445 points. A player scores 309 + 20 + 25 + 40 + 50 + 60 = 504 points.

Bowling:
20 points per wicket with a bonus 50 points for a 5-fer.
An extra 35 points for 6-fer, 40 for 7-fer, 45 for 8-fer, 50 for 9-fer.
An extra 100 bonus points for a 10-fer.

5 wickets = 100 + 50 = 150 points
6 wickets = 120 + 50 + 35 = 205 points.
7 wickets = 140 + 50 + 35 + 40 = 265 points
8 wickets = 160 + 50 + 35 + 40 + 45 = 330 points
9 wickets = 180 + 50 + 35 + 40 + 45 + 50 = 400 points
10 wickets = 200 + 50 + 35 + 40 + 45 + 50 + 100 = 520 points

Caught and bowled = 20 points for the wicket + 30 bonus points for the catch = 50 points.

2.
Fielder catches: Your nominated fieldsman earns you 25 points per catch and 25 points for a run out.

3.
Wicket keepers: I’ll rank your predictions from the actual scores after each Test. Whoever guesses closest to the actual result receives 100 points, then descending down 5 points, so 95 points for the next closest guess, 90 points for the next, etc. If you chose the same scores as another member… then you'll both receive the same points. Next closest then receives 85, 80, 75, 70... depending on how many of us there are.

4.
a) Correctly predict who wins the toss = 15 points
b) Correctly predict what the winning Captain decides to do = 15 points - only for those with part a) above correct; no points if your a) was incorrect.

5.
a) Correctly predict the winning team for each Test = 75 points. Your selection for each Test must correlate with your overall margin in part b) below.
b) If you guess all 5 Ashes Test outcomes correctly then there is a further 125 point bonus = 375 + 125 = 500 points.
Note: Correctly predict a "Draw" = 75 points

If a selected player gets injured or is dropped from the Test side, then you’ll have the opportunity to select a replacement player – before the next Test commences. This player doesn’t have to be the actual substitute player – it can be somebody already in the team. However, you don’t receive any of their previous points – you must start accumulating points from scratch with them.

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Good Luck!
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 2:12 pm

Series predictions

1. Batters/bowlers

England - Buttler and Roy batting, Stokes and Moeen bowling
Australia - Smith and Warner batting, Starc and Cummins bowling

2. Catches

England - Root
Australia - Lyon

1st test predictions

3. Wicket keeper dismissals

Eng - 8
Aus - 11

4. Toss

Aus win the toss and bowl first

5. Results

1st test - England win by 64 runs
Overall series - England 2-2 Australia


Is this all ok PJ?
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Post by Pal Joey on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 2:17 pm

Yeah, good stuff Olly. So you're predicting a close series! Smile
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 2:18 pm

Pal Joey wrote:Yeah, good stuff Olly. So you're predicting a close series! Smile

I am very much so - think it'll be similar to the India series last summer, lots of good, close cricket - maybe lacking in last day deciders however, unlike 2005!

And i'll try to remember to keep up, unlike during the WC... Doh
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Post by Pal Joey on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 2:23 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Pal Joey wrote:Yeah, good stuff Olly. So you're predicting a close series! Smile

I am very much so - think it'll be similar to the India series last summer, lots of good, close cricket - maybe lacking in last day deciders however, unlike 2005!

And i'll try to remember to keep up, unlike during the WC... Doh

No worries. Golf is on the list of permissible excuses for not getting your picks in. Very Happy

I know sometimes we are waiting for final team announcements but if you get it in an hour before the toss... it just makes my job easier and avoids the hassle of chasing people up all the time.
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Post by KP_fan on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 2:47 pm

1.¨

Moeen, Stokes- batsmen
Woakes, Sam Curran-bowlers
( if one of them is not in 11 replace with Butler)

Smith, Cummins-batsmen
Lyon, Starc bowlers

2. Root
Warner

3.
Aus-12
Eng-12

4.
a-Aus
b-Bat first

5.
a-Aus
b-Aus-3 & Eng-1

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Post by robbo277 on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 3:14 pm

5.
a) Correctly predict the winning team for each Test = 75 points. Your selection for each Test must correlate with your overall margin in part b) below.
b) If you guess all 5 Ashes Test outcomes correctly then there is a further 125 point bonus = 375 + 125 = 500 points.
Note: Correctly predict a "Draw" = 75 points

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Not sure if I understand this one.

So if I think England will win the series 3-2, I have to say so now? And then I can only pick England 3 times and Australia twice across the series?

Or do I pick the winner each time and if I get the final score right I then get bonus points?

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Post by Pal Joey on Tue 30 Jul 2019, 2:09 am

Yes Robbo - forcing us to make an overall series result prediction; so if you picked England 3-2 you need to predict which tests go which way.

I realise that rain might be a factor... in which case if you think there might be a draw somewhere - your overall series result prediction needs to reflect this.

So if you went 2-2 for example ... then you'd need to pick the outcome for each match in order -  something like Eng/Aus/Draw/Eng/Aus. Where the draw is... would be up to you of course.
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Post by Pal Joey on Tue 30 Jul 2019, 11:30 am

Notes:

1. & 2.
If your bowler gets a caught & bowled = 50 points.
If your fielder (bowling) gets a caught & bowled = 50 points.
So you get maximum 50 points... no doubling up to 100 points (if your bowler and fielder happens to be the same player)

3.
Wicket keeping: Say you predict Eng 8 Aus 7 = 15 wickets.
Getting the actual correct result (Eng 8 Aus 7) takes precedence over say Eng 9 Aus 6 = 15 wickets.
Likewise a correct prediction of '8-7' beats a '7-8' having the same number of total wickets.



I was about to say to everyone. No rush. So many loose ends still to be officially announced. So you can wait until as late as possible if you like.

But don't miss the train! Smile
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Post by compelling and rich on Tue 30 Jul 2019, 5:25 pm

ill do this again PJ, enjoyed it last time. will bang in my predictions shortly

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Post by James100 on Tue 30 Jul 2019, 7:44 pm

Cheers for doing this PJ

1.
Warner, Smith, Pattinson, Cummins
Root, Stokes, Anderson, Moeen

2.
Warner
Root

3.
Australia 5
England 8
Total 13

4.
a) Australia
b) Bat

5.
a) England
b) England 3-1 Australia

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Post by Duty281 on Tue 30 Jul 2019, 8:02 pm

1
Australia - Warner and Smith with the bat. Cummins and Hazlewood with the ball.
England - Stokes and Root with the bat. Anderson and Woakes with the ball.

2
Stokes and Warner.

3
England 5, Australia 3.

4
England win the toss and field.

5
England win the first test.
Australia win the series 3-1.

Thanks. thumbsup

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 31 Jul 2019, 5:01 pm

Series predictions

1. Batters/bowlers

England - Root and Stokes batting, Anderson and Moeen bowling
Australia - Smith and Warner batting, Lyon and Cummins bowling

2. Catches

England - Root
Australia - Warner

1st test predictions

3. Wicket keeper dismissals

Eng - 9
Aus - 10

4. Toss

England win the toss and bowl

5. Results

1st test - England win
Overall series - England 2-2 Australia

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 31 Jul 2019, 5:12 pm

Batters/bowlers

England - Root and Stokes batting, Anderson and broad bowling
Australia - Smith and Warner batting, Starc and Cummins bowling

2. Catches

England - Root
Australia - Warner


3. Wicket keeper dismissals

Eng - 9
Aus - 8

4. Toss

Australia win the toss and bat

5. Results

1st test - Australia win
Overall series - England 1-2 Australia

looking outside the window its absolutely chucking it down, weather looks set fair for first test but expecting great British summer to ruin at least two tests.

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Post by wadey101 on Wed 31 Jul 2019, 5:16 pm

1. Batters/bowlers

England - Bairstow and Buttler batting, Broad and Anderson bowling
Australia - Bancroft and Smith batting, Pattinson and Hazelwood bowling

2. Catches

England - Root
Australia - Bancroft

1st test predictions

3. Wicket keeper dismissals

Eng - 6
Aus - 7

4. Toss

End win the toss and bat

5. Results

1st test - England win
Overall series - England 3-2 Australia

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Post by guildfordbat on Wed 31 Jul 2019, 6:49 pm

Hi Joey, thanks for setting up and running this show. Here goes -

1. Batters/bowlers

England - Root and Stokes batting, Broad and Anderson bowling
Australia - Khawaja and Smith batting, Starc and Cummins bowling (got to go for the guys who did so well for me before) - if no Starc as many are saying, I'll bring in Siddle, trust that's ok.. Apologies for going off topic here but why is Starc's place in doubt? He would be nailed on for me.

2. Catches

England - Stokes
Australia - Smith

1st test predictions

3. Wicket keeper dismissals

Eng - 5
Aus - 5

4. Toss

Aus win the toss and bat - where's the think about it and bat option? Wink

5. Results

1st test - Aus win
Overall series - England 2-3 Australia.

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 31 Jul 2019, 8:02 pm

compelling and rich wrote:Batters/bowlers

England - Root and Stokes batting, Anderson and broad bowling
Australia - Smith and Warner batting, Starc and Cummins bowling

2. Catches

England - Root
Australia - Warner


3. Wicket keeper dismissals

Eng - 9
Aus - 8

4. Toss

Australia win the toss and bat

5. Results

1st test - Australia win
Overall series - England 1-2 Australia

looking outside the window its absolutely chucking it down, weather looks set fair for first test but expecting great British summer to ruin at least two tests.

didn't realise starc was being "rested" if he doesnt play tomorrow put me down for hazelwood instead

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Post by JDizzle on Wed 31 Jul 2019, 9:15 pm

1. Batters/bowlers

England - Root and Roy batting, Moeen and Anderson bowling
Australia - Warner and Smith batting, Cummins and Lyon bowling

2. Catches

England - Buttler
Australia - Warner


3. Wicket keeper dismissals

Eng - 7
Aus - 5

4. Toss

Aus win the toss and bat

5. Results

1st test - England win
Overall series - England 3-2 Australia

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 5:34 am

Thanks everyone!  OK

1.

England - Root and Stokes batting. Woakes and Broad bowling.
Australia - Warner and Smith batting, Cummins and Pattinson bowling

2. Catches

England - Root
Australia - Bancroft

3. Wicket keeper dismissals

Eng - 3
Aus - 4

4. Toss

Australia win the toss and bat

5. Results

1st test - Australia
Overall series - England 1-3 Australia
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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 5:39 am

compelling and rich wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:Batters/bowlers

England - Root and Stokes batting, Anderson and broad bowling
Australia - Smith and Warner batting, Starc and Cummins bowling

2. Catches

England - Root
Australia - Warner


3. Wicket keeper dismissals

Eng - 9
Aus - 8

4. Toss

Australia win the toss and bat

5. Results

1st test - Australia win
Overall series - England 1-2 Australia

looking outside the window its absolutely chucking it down, weather looks set fair for first test but expecting great British summer to ruin at least two tests.

didn't realise starc was being "rested" if he doesnt play tomorrow put me down for hazelwood instead

OK OK
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Post by alfie on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 6:20 am

OK better have a go at this while my tipping is "hot" : give Goose a chance to win his money back Smile

1 Root Stokes Anderson Moeen
Smith Warner Cummins Lyon

2/ Root
Smith

3/ Eng wk 8 Aus wk 6

4/ Root wins toss and fields.

5/ England to win Edgbaston. And win the series 3-1.

As we are picking results match to match , I'd welcome clarification on the rule regarding result selection / overall prediction ...though no rush for that.

Good luck everyone

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 8:12 am

KP_fan wrote:1.¨

Moeen, Stokes- batsmen
Woakes, Sam Curran-bowlers
( if one of them is not in 11 replace with Butler)

Smith, Cummins-batsmen
Lyon, Starc bowlers

2. Root
  Warner

3.
Aus-12
Eng-12

4.
a-Aus
b-Bat first

5.
a-Aus
b-Aus-3 & Eng-1


-So Curran is not in.....so I replace Curran with Stokes as bowler and Stokes the batsman with Butler the batsman
-and If Starc is not in I replace him with Pattinson
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Post by guildfordbat on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 10:08 am

guildfordbat wrote: ...

1. Batters/bowlers
...
Australia - ... Starc and Cummins bowling (got to go for the guys who did so well for me before) - if no Starc as many are saying, I'll bring in Siddle

...

And if no Siddle either, I'll then have Patto.

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Post by guildfordbat on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 10:12 am

alfie wrote:OK better have a go at this while my tipping is "hot"  : give Goose a chance to win his money back Smile

...

4/ Root wins toss and fields.

...

WHAT? An inspired gamble? A reckless risk? Or is Goose pulling the strings with some incriminating hold over Alfie? Wink

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Post by Soul Requiem on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 10:13 am

Series predictions

1. Batters/bowlers

England - Root and Denly batting, Stokes and Anderson bowling
Australia - Head and Warner batting, Lyon and Cummins bowling

2. Catches

England - Root
Australia - Smith

1st test predictions

3. Wicket keeper dismissals

Eng - 9
Aus - 6

4. Toss

Aus win the toss and bat first

5. Results

1st test - England win by 5 wickets
Overall series - England 3-1 Australia

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Post by Duty281 on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 10:13 am

Duty281 wrote: Cummins and Hazlewood with the ball.

Swap Hazlewood with Siddle, ta, if the former isn't in the side.

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Post by Gooseberry on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 10:51 am

First test Im going with Aus to win the toss and bat first

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Post by compelling and rich on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 10:56 am

compelling and rich wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:Batters/bowlers

England - Root and Stokes batting, Anderson and broad bowling
Australia - Smith and Warner batting, Starc and Cummins bowling

2. Catches

England - Root
Australia - Warner


3. Wicket keeper dismissals

Eng - 9
Aus - 8

4. Toss

Australia win the toss and bat

5. Results

1st test - Australia win
Overall series - England 1-2 Australia

looking outside the window its absolutely chucking it down, weather looks set fair for first test but expecting great British summer to ruin at least two tests.

didn't realise starc was being "rested" if he doesnt play tomorrow put me down for hazelwood instead

3rd time lucky, i'll go with pattison

auspicious start to a tipping competition this Laugh

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Post by wadey101 on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 10:58 am

Siddle for Hazelwood please

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Post by superflyweight on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 11:04 am

1.
England Batsmen - Root and Stokes
England Bowlers - Anderson and Woakes
Australia Batsmen - Warner and Smith
Australia Batsmen - Cummins and Pattinson

2.
England - Root
Australia - Warner

3.
England: 7
Australia: 6
Total:13

4.
too late for this Test

5.
England

b) Predict the overall Ashes Series result.
2-2

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 11:58 am

Sorry for Being Late.

1. Batsmen/Bowlers

Australia :- Khwaja, Smith, Cummins, Lyon
England :- Root, Butler,Broad,Anderson

2. Fielder

Australia :- Travis Head
England :- Bultler

3. Catches/Stumping

Australia :- 7
England :- 9

4. Toss :- I am late here. So no predicton

5. Result of First Test :- England will win.

6. Overall result :- 2-1 in favor of England

Pal Do I require any correction?
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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 12:33 pm

That looks good, SK.

All changes above are noted... spreadsheet up and running. Thanks guys. OK

There average score is already 81. Very Happy

Olly - please give us your alternative to Starc - I've put down Pattinson for you in the meantime... OK? Smile
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Post by Gooseberry on Thu 01 Aug 2019, 4:06 pm

I'm going with Woakes and broad as England's bowlers

Smith and a tin of custard as Australias batsmen

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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 02 Aug 2019, 1:05 am

Lucky I went to bed when Smith was on 66... what a first day that was.

Points Table
1st Test, Day 1 :

456 Pal Joey
426 Guildford
396 Compelling
391 Wadey101
369 S Kumar
336 KP_fan
295 Duty
276 Superfly
266 James
258 JDizzle
251 Olly
248 Alfie
248 Dolphin
129 Soul Requiem

average score: 310

7 of us got the toss and winning captain decision correct. So 30 points each.

Those of us who had Smith (144 + 20 point bonus) and Broad (100 points + 50 point bonus) did very well. If you had Woakes too; then it was even better.
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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 02 Aug 2019, 1:56 am

If James Anderson is ruled out after tests this morning then I'll need the replacement bowler from:

Alfie
Duty
JD
James
Wadey
Guildford
Flipper
Compelling
Soul
Fly
Kumar

You'll then start accruing your new bowler's points in Australia's second dig.


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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 on Fri 02 Aug 2019, 4:44 am

Pal is leading. Khwaja will score a century in second inning and 5 wicket for commins today.Very Happy

In case of Anderson getting unfit for the match, I would like to replace him with Woakes. I have hugely underestimated him, but he has always proved to be useful.

Fifth on the table, not bad. Cool
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Post by guildfordbat on Fri 02 Aug 2019, 7:29 am

Pal Joey wrote:If James Anderson is ruled out after tests this morning then I'll need the replacement bowler from:

Alfie
Duty
JD
James
Wadey
Guildford
Flipper
Compelling
Soul
Fly
Kumar

You'll then start accruing your new bowler's points in Australia's second dig.

Cheers, Joey. Moeen for me.

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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 02 Aug 2019, 9:50 am

Thanks SK and Guildford.
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Post by Soul Requiem on Fri 02 Aug 2019, 9:52 am

I'll go for Woakes if Jimmy is absent.

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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 02 Aug 2019, 10:25 am

alfie wrote:

As we are picking results match to match , I'd welcome clarification on the rule regarding result selection / overall prediction ...though no rush for that.


Alfie, we could have just done the winner for each Test... in which case you could make your predictions as the series went along... maybe adjusting what you thought might be the overall result at the start... to something completely different by (or towards) the end of the series.

What I'm asking for 'locks us in' to our preconceived gut feeling to predict the overall series result - before a ball is bowled. Much harder I know.

So if you predicted England 3-1, for example, and England to win the 1st Test... and they do... then good. That's one England win out of the way.
Then you have to determine where to use the rest of your predictions (2 x England or 1 x Australia... and a draw somewhere) in line with your overall 3-1 prediction.

Just say for the above England 3-1 prediction, Australia win the 1st Test... (and you picked England) your job is a little easier. Your Australian 'win' has already eventuated (so it would be silly to pick them again... as that would tend to England 3-2 minimum and you predicted 3-1. So all you'd really have left is the 3 England wins (even though you used one England win up and it failed)... up to you which one is a draw.

You can predict England 4 times in that England 3-1 scenario - Eng (lost) Eng (won) Draw, Eng (won), Eng (won) ... an overall England 3-1 result.
However someone who correctly picked Aus/Eng/Draw/Eng/Eng would have picked up 75 points for each Test (375 points + bonus) compared to your 300 points only... for the 4 correct picks.

Does that make sense or is there something massive I've overlooked?  Smile
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Post by compelling and rich on Fri 02 Aug 2019, 11:07 am

Pal Joey wrote:If James Anderson is ruled out after tests this morning then I'll need the replacement bowler from:

Alfie
Duty
JD
James
Wadey
Guildford
Flipper
Compelling
Soul
Fly
Kumar

You'll then start accruing your new bowler's points in Australia's second dig.

woakes for me please joey

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Fri 02 Aug 2019, 11:28 am

I'd have Broad, but looks like Jimmy is in with a chance

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Post by compelling and rich on Fri 02 Aug 2019, 11:57 am

compelling and rich wrote:
Pal Joey wrote:If James Anderson is ruled out after tests this morning then I'll need the replacement bowler from:

Alfie
Duty
JD
James
Wadey
Guildford
Flipper
Compelling
Soul
Fly
Kumar

You'll then start accruing your new bowler's points in Australia's second dig.

woakes for me please joey

in fact having seen how much its just turned ill have ali against all those left handers

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Post by James100 on Fri 02 Aug 2019, 12:03 pm

If Anderson's not fit I'll have Woakes, thanks

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat 03 Aug 2019, 10:29 am

Points Table
1st Test, Day 2 :

636 Pal Joey
616 Guildford
551 Compelling
486 Wadey101
460 Duty
451 S Kumar
439 KP_fan
431 Superfly
421 James
388 Alfie
364 Olly
363 Dolphin
345 JDizzle
262 Soul Requiem

average score: 444

No one has Rory Burns...
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Post by Duty281 on Sat 03 Aug 2019, 10:34 am

If Anderson doesn't bowl, I'll take Stuart Broad. Ta.

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat 03 Aug 2019, 10:53 am

Duty281 wrote:If Anderson doesn't bowl, I'll take Stuart Broad. Ta.

Thanks Duty.

Just waiting for Alfie, JD, Wadey and Superfly now.
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Post by alfie on Sat 03 Aug 2019, 11:47 am

I'm waiting to see if Jimmy makes it out there...

He's a tough lad .

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat 03 Aug 2019, 12:38 pm

OK, fair enough.. let's wait. No rush to decide just yet... but let me know before Aus 2nd dig.
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Post by alfie on Sat 03 Aug 2019, 1:56 pm

Pal Joey wrote:OK, fair enough.. let's wait. No rush to decide just yet... but let me know before Aus 2nd dig.

He's been bowling in the nets , I hear. So I'll stick with him I think. (Probably would be in my interests to change but I'm taking this competition quite relaxedly...still basking in my WC success. I feel lucky Smile

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