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Post by Pal Joey on Tue 09 Jul 2019, 11:50 am

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Pal Joey wrote:Just between us few on here... I have a feeling the Queen likes Trump.

Don't ask me to explain why but their body language seemed to be in a sort of comfortable harmony when they stood beside each other in June or whenever it was. And I think he quite likes all of that pomp and ceremony... as someone who likes being the centre of attention would.

He's a cross between a court jester and a village idiot so she would love him. Probably lets him run round the grounds with the corgis.

Laugh

Yes... and also the fact that he has just a touch of olde worlde charm (probably brutally drummed into him from the NY Military Academy) despite his apparently frightening unpredictability in this day and age.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Thu 18 Jul 2019, 3:46 pm

Another thing about Trump's pronouncements is the hypocrisy of him saying, as he did at his rally last night, that these Congresswomen don't have anything positive to say, so they should leave. I don't remember him being full of praise for Obama's America. His inaguration speech was dubbed the 'I have a nightmare' speech. Why, surely he should have left the country if he didn't like it?

Again, he hasn't suggested that Bernie Sanders leave the country, or Justin Amash. He'll lay into them, but he won't suggest they should leave. Now, what's the difference between those two and these four? Gosh, I can't think....

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Post by SecretFly on Thu 18 Jul 2019, 4:33 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

Again, he hasn't suggested that Bernie Sanders leave the country, or Justin Amash. He'll lay into them, but he won't suggest they should leave. Now, what's the difference between those two and these four? Gosh, I can't think....

You tell me, Luckless.  You seem to be obsessed with the 'differences' in people as much as Trump?

Saunders is an old Vaudevillian act.  A song and dance man.  Trump doesn't feel threatened politically by Bernie.  You and others can think him a die hard committed socialist if you like, neither Trump nor I believe a word of it.  Maybe Bernie should be offended and maybe the foursome should feel buoyant that a Trump tantrum is directed at them.

If you're interested in coloured people's opinions on Trump's 'racism' go check out the two beautiful funny and feisty ladies Diamond and Silk, or the formidable ex-Democrat, Candace Owen or Mr detail-detail Black Conservative Patriot....to name just a few. You might already know one or more of them and dislike every damn morsel they come up with coz they fit on the opposite side of the political fence to you...but they are black, articulate and they laugh at the racist taunts thrown at Trump.
Cultural ideology over colour.  If you have a cultural outlook I can share, you're the right colour.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Thu 18 Jul 2019, 4:36 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

Again, he hasn't suggested that Bernie Sanders leave the country, or Justin Amash. He'll lay into them, but he won't suggest they should leave. Now, what's the difference between those two and these four? Gosh, I can't think....

You tell me, Luckless.

I don't need to tell you, Fly. You know what I'm suggesting. You're just pretending not to.

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Post by SecretFly on Thu 18 Jul 2019, 5:15 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

Again, he hasn't suggested that Bernie Sanders leave the country, or Justin Amash. He'll lay into them, but he won't suggest they should leave. Now, what's the difference between those two and these four? Gosh, I can't think....

You tell me, Luckless.

I don't need to tell you, Fly. You know what I'm suggesting. You're just pretending not to.

I already told you what you're thinking. The question was rhetorical. Don't be shy. Just say what you think. Trump is a racist. I and many black voters and commentators laugh at the slur. But carry on. Freedom to think and speak as you please. I love freedom of speech.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 18 Jul 2019, 5:16 pm

You know, these 'discussions' here are utterly pointless aren't they? There's never any evidence that anyone changes their starting positions, ever.

Still, good comedic value occasionally OK.
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Post by SecretFly on Thu 18 Jul 2019, 5:19 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:You know, these 'discussions' here are utterly pointless aren't they? There's never any evidence that anyone changes their starting positions, ever.

Still, good comedic value occasionally OK.

OK True navy. As I've started saying more often...... politics.

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Thu 18 Jul 2019, 8:32 pm

In some ways it doesn't matter if Trump is racist or nor. He deliberately stirs up racist sentiments in others in order to win votes, which is equally loathsome.

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 18 Jul 2019, 11:36 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:In some ways it doesn't matter if Trump is racist or nor. He deliberately stirs up racist sentiments in others in order to win votes, which is equally loathsome.

Yes indeed, he has such a Falmouth.
He's taken transparency to a whole new level. We can see his cards on the table. They are what they are. The people will decide I guess.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Fri 19 Jul 2019, 11:35 am

JuliusHMarx wrote:In some ways it doesn't matter if Trump is racist or nor. He deliberately stirs up racist sentiments in others in order to win votes, which is equally loathsome.

Quite.

'At this point, does it much matter if he is acting purely out of political cynicism, with no element of personal prejudice? The rage he is nurturing and the pain he is causing are all too real. The damage he is doing will take years to undo.'

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/18/opinion/trump-rally-send-her-back.html

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Post by Pie on Fri 19 Jul 2019, 5:34 pm

Pal Joey wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:In some ways it doesn't matter if Trump is racist or nor. He deliberately stirs up racist sentiments in others in order to win votes, which is equally loathsome.

Yes indeed, he has such a Falmouth.
He's taken transparency to a whole new level. We can see his cards on the table. They are what they are. The people will decide I guess.

Leave Falmouth out of this. Its a lovely place with no racists whatsoever

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Post by Pie on Fri 19 Jul 2019, 5:36 pm

Trump, like Hitler, is an evil genius.

However those that inspire hate and division generally end up on the receiving end of it, eventually Trump will get his. Either during or after his Presidency the establishment will turn on him and his base will run for their lives

Just allow them this fleeting experience with power.

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Post by GSC on Fri 19 Jul 2019, 5:51 pm

genius is a stretch but he has no problems inciting the mob to suit his standing
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Post by Pie on Fri 19 Jul 2019, 6:14 pm

GSC wrote:genius is a stretch but he has no problems inciting the mob to suit his standing

disagree

He is a talentless bigot with a very questionable provenance who became the most powerful man in the world.

Might not like it but that takes a kind of genius and his is that he knows how to tap into fear and loathing

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Post by Soul Requiem on Fri 19 Jul 2019, 8:35 pm

Talentless bigot and a genius, seems to me that it's one or the other.

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Post by Pie on Sat 20 Jul 2019, 4:37 am

Soul Requiem wrote:Talentless bigot and a genius, seems to me that it's one or the other.

Sadly its all 3. Because it is that element of society he has vicariously empowered

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sat 20 Jul 2019, 11:08 am

What a genius Trump is...

Climate change doesn't exist because it is cold outside..

Pro Abortion until he ran for the GOP nomination..

Mocks disabled People at rallies...

Pro Women rights as long as he can grab them by the P***y

A Healthcare policy in 2016 that would have cost 400 billion more than he said...

The worst mid term Presidential rating since ratings began despite a thriving Economy..

A thick as pig poo spoilt brat Muppet who knows how to hire People to strong arm people in deals and pay off Mafia bosses who control Labor on the East coast..

Any other President with a decent Economy would be a shoo in.

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Post by dyrewolfe on Sun 28 Jul 2019, 4:58 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What a genius Trump is...

Climate change doesn't exist because it is cold outside..

Pro Abortion until he ran for the GOP nomination..

Mocks disabled People at rallies...

Pro Women rights as long as he can grab them by the P***y

A Healthcare policy in 2016 that would have cost 400 billion more than he said...

The worst mid term Presidential rating since ratings began despite a thriving Economy..

A thick as pig poo spoilt brat Muppet who knows how to hire People to strong arm people in deals and pay off Mafia bosses who control Labor on the East coast..

Any other President with a decent Economy would be a shoo in.


...they would also have to be good buddies with Putin too, apparently. Wink


But yeah, the fact he got elected in the first place does make you wonder how & why any other potential candidates are so unelectable. Where are the younger rising stars in both parties, that should be shaking up the establishment?
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Post by Pie on Sun 28 Jul 2019, 8:56 pm

Its not about 'politics' anymore is why. Its about mass communication. Its about something else than warring political entities that bore the tats off people with their infighting. Power/money used to mean politics but now it also means celebrity. The game has changed.

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 10:00 am

dyrewolfe wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What a genius Trump is...

Climate change doesn't exist because it is cold outside..

Pro Abortion until he ran for the GOP nomination..

Mocks disabled People at rallies...

Pro Women rights as long as he can grab them by the P***y

A Healthcare policy in 2016 that would have cost 400 billion more than he said...

The worst mid term Presidential rating since ratings began despite a thriving Economy..

A thick as pig poo spoilt brat Muppet who knows how to hire People to strong arm people in deals and pay off Mafia bosses who control Labor on the East coast..

Any other President with a decent Economy would be a shoo in.


...they would also have to be good buddies with Putin too, apparently. Wink


But yeah, the fact he got elected in the first place does make you wonder how & why any other potential candidates are so unelectable. Where are the younger rising stars in both parties, that should be shaking up the establishment?

The auld boy with the comb over has shaken the establishment so much it's crumbling.  So not a lot of compromised, easily manipulated, ''chosen' young candidates are getting the chance to swim.  For it is so, that the Establishment was choosing the young 'rebels' as much as it was choosing the old conventionalists.  It's simple logic that to control everything, you must control both sides of any debate.  Reality TV.  Scripted opposition.

The American voters have decided to go for a real political maverick.  It'll be 40 or 50 years before another President even comes close to the shaking-up of the establishment that Trump is currently engaged in.  Proof?  World wide media and political meltdown just at the mention of his name.  

Four more years please, Donald. OK  I'm enjoying the show.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 11:14 am

After their boost from the debates...Warren and Harris are fading...

Biden is surging and Sanders is standing still..

Fox poll...

Biden..... 33
Sanders..15
Warren....12
Harris.. ...10

The rest needn't bother.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 11:18 am

I really worry for the Democrats if Biden's their candidate. Hillary Clinton was as Establishment as you could get, and Trump's ideal opponent, but Biden's not too far off. The hope I guess is that enough voters will want a president who has some semblance of statesmanship about him again.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 12:38 pm

SecretFly wrote:
dyrewolfe wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What a genius Trump is...

Climate change doesn't exist because it is cold outside..

Pro Abortion until he ran for the GOP nomination..

Mocks disabled People at rallies...

Pro Women rights as long as he can grab them by the P***y

A Healthcare policy in 2016 that would have cost 400 billion more than he said...

The worst mid term Presidential rating since ratings began despite a thriving Economy..

A thick as pig poo spoilt brat Muppet who knows how to hire People to strong arm people in deals and pay off Mafia bosses who control Labor on the East coast..

Any other President with a decent Economy would be a shoo in.


...they would also have to be good buddies with Putin too, apparently. Wink


But yeah, the fact he got elected in the first place does make you wonder how & why any other potential candidates are so unelectable. Where are the younger rising stars in both parties, that should be shaking up the establishment?

The auld boy with the comb over has shaken the establishment so much it's crumbling.  So not a lot of compromised, easily manipulated, ''chosen' young candidates are getting the chance to swim.  For it is so, that the Establishment was choosing the young 'rebels' as much as it was choosing the old conventionalists.  It's simple logic that to control everything, you must control both sides of any debate.  Reality TV.  Scripted opposition.

The American voters have decided to go for a real political maverick.  It'll be 40 or 50 years before another President even comes close to the shaking-up of the establishment that Trump is currently engaged in.  Proof?  World wide media and political meltdown just at the mention of his name.  

Four more years please, Donald. OK  I'm enjoying the show.
The American public went for someone who on paper said he'd pay attention to those who've been left behind by globalisation etc. There's a problem with that, but Trump isn't the solution. He's just in it for himself and cheap, foreign labour etc is exactly what he wants. You could argue he's part of the wake up call everyone needs on this, but I think that, on balance, he'll do more damage to the political system and society than he's worth. Time will tell.
At least the Constitution will get rid of him after another term, should he get back in.
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Post by JuliusHMarx on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 1:04 pm

SecretFly wrote:
dyrewolfe wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What a genius Trump is...

Climate change doesn't exist because it is cold outside..

Pro Abortion until he ran for the GOP nomination..

Mocks disabled People at rallies...

Pro Women rights as long as he can grab them by the P***y

A Healthcare policy in 2016 that would have cost 400 billion more than he said...

The worst mid term Presidential rating since ratings began despite a thriving Economy..

A thick as pig poo spoilt brat Muppet who knows how to hire People to strong arm people in deals and pay off Mafia bosses who control Labor on the East coast..

Any other President with a decent Economy would be a shoo in.


...they would also have to be good buddies with Putin too, apparently. Wink


But yeah, the fact he got elected in the first place does make you wonder how & why any other potential candidates are so unelectable. Where are the younger rising stars in both parties, that should be shaking up the establishment?

The auld boy with the comb over has shaken the establishment so much it's crumbling.  So not a lot of compromised, easily manipulated, ''chosen' young candidates are getting the chance to swim.  For it is so, that the Establishment was choosing the young 'rebels' as much as it was choosing the old conventionalists.  It's simple logic that to control everything, you must control both sides of any debate.  Reality TV.  Scripted opposition.

The American voters have decided to go for a real political maverick.  It'll be 40 or 50 years before another President even comes close to the shaking-up of the establishment that Trump is currently engaged in.  Proof?  World wide media and political meltdown just at the mention of his name.  

Four more years please, Donald. OK  I'm enjoying the show.

Are you enjoying the increase in racism, hate crime, erosion of minority rights etc? It's all jolly good fun isn't it?

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 1:51 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
The American public went for someone who on paper said he'd pay attention to those who've been left behind by globalisation etc. There's a problem with that, but Trump isn't the solution. He's just in it for himself and cheap, foreign labour etc is exactly what he wants. You could argue he's part of the wake up call everyone needs on this, but I think that, on balance, he'll do more damage to the political system and society than he's worth. Time will tell.
At least the Constitution will get rid of him after another term, should he get back in.

Correction, the American public voted for Trump not because they felt 'left behind' by Globalisation ( that's a much too benign a colour to paint with).  No, the voters who voted for Trump did so because they are outrightly antagonistic against the very concept of Globalisation.

Globalisation is not something they feel they haven't gotten a fair slice of, it's something they actively feel has cheated the USA out of billions, that the ideology is by design anti-USA, that their past Presidents and politicians have quietly attempted to sell them out to secretly fund the very ideology designed to take the tag of World Super Power from them and offer it to the Chinese instead.  Trump voters believe that the very purpose of Globalisation is to weaken the USA financially, militarily, culturally.  Just listen to Trump's full UN speech.  That's what his voters believe.

So Americans have always had a major problem with socialism/communism - and the people that voted for Trump see this Globalist ideology as the newest incarnation of an old project attempting one more time to create the dream utopia of no hunger, hatred, poverty, religion or sense of self - ruled over by a caring elite that pick up the very same wages as the lowest proletariat worker drone.... coz everyone is equal in a perfect socialist world with one Global All-Seeing Leader God, like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot ....or Tony Blair...... Cool

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 2:03 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
Are you enjoying the increase in racism, hate crime, erosion of minority rights etc? It's all jolly good fun isn't it?

The fun is listening to lies.  That's all the opposition have left.  Lies.  They're still on the Russian one after three years.  Maybe Russian Americans should take to the streets and demand that Democrats stop vilifying their homeland?  I wonder who the ethnic minority Russian Americans vote for?  CNN ever ask that question?

Funny too that 'refugees' are absolutely rushing to get into the USA when it is ruled by such a racist Tyrant.  According to the Democrat Border Propaganda Police, USA is more popular as a destination than it's ever been before.  Must be the Trump effect...the feel good factor.

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 2:09 pm

Shame you don't enjoy listening to Trump's lies as they are more frequent and blatant.

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 2:23 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:Shame you don't enjoy listening to Trump's lies as they are more frequent and blatant.

I do enjoy listening to his lies. And his truths, and his insults, putdowns and intended word goofs...(Prince of Whales....wait for it, it might take time, but you might eventually pick up on what he was alluding to.)

Yep, it's fun watching a smart man play with fish in a bowl and see them melt under the pressure to keep coming up with the trash that he eats for breakfast anyway.

Which liar do you want to vote for or would want to vote for if you could? That's the only deal in town in politics. Which of the liars more fully approaches your world view? For you, it ain't Trump. For me, it is.

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Post by Pal Joey on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 2:39 pm

SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:Shame you don't enjoy listening to Trump's lies as they are more frequent and blatant.

I do enjoy listening to his lies.

Greatest hits or the live versions?

There's so many to choose from... who could forget his biggest hits like

"We're Gonna Build that Wall"
"That's Not What I Said"
"Mine's Bigger Than Yours"
"I Own That Building"
"I Was There First"
"Burgers At Tiffany's"
"We Should Build A Golf Course Here... Right Away"

and perhaps his most famous and memorable hit of all time: "You're Such a Loser To Me"
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 2:39 pm

SecretFly wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
The American public went for someone who on paper said he'd pay attention to those who've been left behind by globalisation etc. There's a problem with that, but Trump isn't the solution. He's just in it for himself and cheap, foreign labour etc is exactly what he wants. You could argue he's part of the wake up call everyone needs on this, but I think that, on balance, he'll do more damage to the political system and society than he's worth. Time will tell.
At least the Constitution will get rid of him after another term, should he get back in.

Correction, the American public voted for Trump not because they felt 'left behind' by Globalisation ( that's a much too benign a colour to paint with).  No, the voters who voted for Trump did so because they are outrightly antagonistic against the very concept of Globalisation. Cool

Not really true is it....

McCain got 60m votes in 2008....Romney got 61m voters in 2012......Trump got 62.9m......97% voted on Party lines...

Has to be remembered that Clinton's previous comments about Black People and 'three strikes and your out' hurt her in the swing States..

Perhaps some did feel left behind by globalisation......But in reality the GOP got out their core vote and exit polls show Trump got more Black votes than Romney...

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 2:43 pm

SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:Shame you don't enjoy listening to Trump's lies as they are more frequent and blatant.

I do enjoy listening to his lies.  And his truths, and his insults, putdowns and intended word goofs...(Prince of Whales....wait for it, it might take time, but you might eventually pick up on what he was alluding to.)

Yep, it's fun watching a smart man play with fish in a bowl and see them melt under the pressure to keep coming up with the trash that he eats for breakfast anyway.

Which liar do you want to vote for or would want to vote for if you could? That's  the only deal in town in politics.  Which of the liars more fully approaches your world view?  For you, it ain't Trump.  For me, it is.

Well, I suppose if you like white supremacists to feel emboldened...

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 3:22 pm

Pal Joey wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:Shame you don't enjoy listening to Trump's lies as they are more frequent and blatant.

I do enjoy listening to his lies.

Greatest hits or the live versions?

There's so many to choose from... who could forget his biggest hits like

"We're Gonna Build that Wall"
"That's Not What I Said"
"Mine's Bigger Than Yours"
"I Own That Building"
"I Was There First"
"Burgers At Tiffany's"
"We Should Build A Golf Course Here... Right Away"

and perhaps his most famous and memorable hit of all time: "You're Such a Loser To Me"

They're all good but I prefer his bluegrass period.... when he pretended to be a Democrat for most of his life so that he'd get invited to All the best parties.  Dems can let their hair and other things down much more freely than uptight Bible Preaching Republican trailer trash can.  Trump kept the records Wink

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 3:27 pm

He sure let his hair down at those parties he had with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 3:38 pm

In fairness until Pataki and Guiliani in the mid-late 90s......Democrats used to own the Governorship and Mayoralty as well as everything else in NY

Rising crime killed the Democrats...

If you want Tower blocks built you need to backside kiss the bigwigs....Trump ain't stupid when it comes to greasing palms..

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 4:01 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
The American public went for someone who on paper said he'd pay attention to those who've been left behind by globalisation etc. There's a problem with that, but Trump isn't the solution. He's just in it for himself and cheap, foreign labour etc is exactly what he wants. You could argue he's part of the wake up call everyone needs on this, but I think that, on balance, he'll do more damage to the political system and society than he's worth. Time will tell.
At least the Constitution will get rid of him after another term, should he get back in.

Correction, the American public voted for Trump not because they felt 'left behind' by Globalisation ( that's a much too benign a colour to paint with).  No, the voters who voted for Trump did so because they are outrightly antagonistic against the very concept of Globalisation. Cool

Not really true is it....

It is true.  His voters reject Globalisation, they don't feel left behind by it - they reject it.  It's a scam and a socialist one at that in their eyes.  

Make America Great Again, isn't only a slogan.  It's what got him elected because it says America has been had (even by Republicans like the Bushes, Romney and McCain, none of whom are much liked by Trump's core supporters) - according to Trump supporters, America was being set up for a major fall, and some notable Americans themselves have been implicated in the minds of those voters.  Let's not pretend none of you have head the cries of Treason in the air.  You have and if just didn't focus on Trump.  Others have been named.
Make America Great Again is a twofingered salute to Globalists, whether they are the Foreign or domestic variety.[/quote]

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 4:13 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:He sure let his hair down at those parties he had with Jeffrey Epstein.

Exactly.  Now we're all getting wise.  Good. That's what I was alluding to.

Did you see the footage?  See Trump invite Epstein in to the party with all the Pom Pom girls?  See Trump enjoy dragging the extremely uncomfortable Epstein forward, whispering in his ear?  Then see Trump point to the cameras and tell Epstein it was the media?  Who remained uncomfortable throughout like a rabbit in headlights?  Who acted it up and even tried some awful dance moves?

Wonderful stuff, from years ago.  "You're on candid camera Epstein.  This footage will emerge later when I become President and set up the legal system to recapture you after the Obama compromised administration lets you go."

I told you it's a mission.  It is.  One day you'll believe me.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 4:16 pm

But Trump himself was appalled by it all, of course.

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 4:42 pm

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SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:Shame you don't enjoy listening to Trump's lies as they are more frequent and blatant.

I do enjoy listening to his lies.  And his truths, and his insults, putdowns and intended word goofs...(Prince of Whales....wait for it, it might take time, but you might eventually pick up on what he was alluding to.)

Yep, it's fun watching a smart man play with fish in a bowl and see them melt under the pressure to keep coming up with the trash that he eats for breakfast anyway.

Which liar do you want to vote for or would want to vote for if you could? That's  the only deal in town in politics.  Which of the liars more fully approaches your world view?  For you, it ain't Trump.  For me, it is.

Well, I suppose if you like white supremacists to feel emboldened...

If you like liberal-battlefront buzz words ........

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 4:46 pm

SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:Shame you don't enjoy listening to Trump's lies as they are more frequent and blatant.

I do enjoy listening to his lies.  And his truths, and his insults, putdowns and intended word goofs...(Prince of Whales....wait for it, it might take time, but you might eventually pick up on what he was alluding to.)

Yep, it's fun watching a smart man play with fish in a bowl and see them melt under the pressure to keep coming up with the trash that he eats for breakfast anyway.

Which liar do you want to vote for or would want to vote for if you could? That's  the only deal in town in politics.  Which of the liars more fully approaches your world view?  For you, it ain't Trump.  For me, it is.

Well, I suppose if you like white supremacists to feel emboldened...

If you like liberal-battlefront buzz words ........

Poor effort, even by your low standards.

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 5:12 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:But Trump himself was appalled by it all, of course.

Are you?  Have you studied up on it yet?  The part about the 'Russian' hacked emails that nobody wants to talk about?  You take a dip into that world of kids by pools ready and willing to entertain and ages given?  You'll have to prowl around that stuff sooner or later, Luckless because it's central to why Trump was elected.  Central.  Yet the mainstream media try to pretend it's all Russia and politics, and steer a million miles from the detail of those emails.  Taboo!!!!!
I said here already that Nxivm (child sex trafficking cult) was only the beginnng, and that was before Epstein was arrested (rearrested!)  Now he's still only the beginning - supposedly attempted to kill himself in prison recently too after being put in a cell with a nice ex-cop murderer.   Lots that nice Statesmen and world Leaders don't want exposed.  But it'll come.  Only the beginning.
Trump is the instigator of cleaning up the FBI, the CIA and the judiciary so that people like Epstein can actually be charged with the right crimes and punishments.  'Nobody is above the law - nobody' is the mantra.  Now if Trump is dumb enough to go into office and set up a system that will actually genuinely chase after corrupt and depraved world political and corporate personages and if he too is implicated in such crimes, then he really is an idiot.  A quiet life away from politics would have kept his cover because one thing is certain, had Hillary Clinton taken the office of President, neither Nxivm people nor Epstein would have been arrested at all.  Fact.

So Trump is very dumb if he elects to facilitate his own downfall.  Nope, better to look at it logically.  He's cleaning a big swamp, like he promised his supporters.  And there lies the seething hatred from compromised politicians, business people, intelligence agents and entertainers.  Mainstream media won't be able to keep a lid on it forever.  Epstein - links - too big.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 5:14 pm

I thought he was elected because his base hated Globalisation? Headscratch

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 5:15 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:Shame you don't enjoy listening to Trump's lies as they are more frequent and blatant.

I do enjoy listening to his lies.  And his truths, and his insults, putdowns and intended word goofs...(Prince of Whales....wait for it, it might take time, but you might eventually pick up on what he was alluding to.)

Yep, it's fun watching a smart man play with fish in a bowl and see them melt under the pressure to keep coming up with the trash that he eats for breakfast anyway.

Which liar do you want to vote for or would want to vote for if you could? That's  the only deal in town in politics.  Which of the liars more fully approaches your world view?  For you, it ain't Trump.  For me, it is.

Well, I suppose if you like white supremacists to feel emboldened...

If you like liberal-battlefront buzz words ........

Poor effort, even by your low standards.

Great effort.  Hit the spot.  I don't crumble under liberal buzzwords of 'shame'.  You should know this already, Julius.

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 5:17 pm

Dear oh dear. The idea that Trump is cleaning the swamp is laughable. He's replacing dirty water with water that's just as dirty, that's all. That's not cleaning anything.

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 5:17 pm

SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:Shame you don't enjoy listening to Trump's lies as they are more frequent and blatant.

I do enjoy listening to his lies.  And his truths, and his insults, putdowns and intended word goofs...(Prince of Whales....wait for it, it might take time, but you might eventually pick up on what he was alluding to.)

Yep, it's fun watching a smart man play with fish in a bowl and see them melt under the pressure to keep coming up with the trash that he eats for breakfast anyway.

Which liar do you want to vote for or would want to vote for if you could? That's  the only deal in town in politics.  Which of the liars more fully approaches your world view?  For you, it ain't Trump.  For me, it is.

Well, I suppose if you like white supremacists to feel emboldened...

If you like liberal-battlefront buzz words ........

Poor effort, even by your low standards.

Great effort.  Hit the spot.  I don't crumble under liberal buzzwords of 'shame'.  You should know this already, Julius.

No, your ego is secure. And I understand why.

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 5:23 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I thought he was elected because his base hated Globalisation? Headscratch


laughing

Look at Epstein's black contact book. Full of Globalist, Environmentalist, One World Love Entertainers and political types. Trump supporters aren't dumb. They make the connection. Destroy the swamp, destroy the blackmailable cycle of politicians being compromised by activity they'd want never to see the light of day, destroy the power the blackmailers have over these politicians in terms of political policy and you in turn get quite a good shot at the Globalist agenda.

Two birds with one stone. Trump supporters too dumb to want a multi manifesto President? He's spoken about everything I say. Mainstream media just don't carry it. Why would they? Compromised.

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 5:32 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:Dear oh dear. The idea that Trump is cleaning the swamp is laughable. He's replacing dirty water with water that's just as dirty, that's all. That's not cleaning anything.

Laugh.  Have a good one.  Why nobody wants to discuss the content of the emails that the Democrats have been so worried about for 3years.  No documentaries on the contents?  Silence?  Crickets?

Laugh.  Epstein was laughing when he thought Hillary would get elected.  Yep, he was laughing.  Wasn't laughing when Trump came down the elevator.  Funny how people are more animated about accusations of men assaulting women than they are about men, and women, assaulting children.  I always feel it's so peculiar that people choose to laugh off such accusations whilst being so serious about man on woman.

Uneasiness I suppose. Taboo.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 5:34 pm

I refuse to believe that Trump could have knowledge of a vast conspiracy like this and not have blurted it out by now. Has he even tweeted about it?

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 5:39 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:

No, your ego is secure. And I understand why.

So do I.  Because I'm prepared to talk about the darker more evil avenues of power that your mainstream news givers run a million miles from.  I repeat, Trump is hated, not because he spoke about pussies or because of his tweets, he's hated because the media you choose to watch need you to hate him.  They need you to hate him because they are on the run.  I repeat, had the lovely feminist Lady Hillary Clinton become President, Epstein would not now be in jail or remotely close to one.  

Keep tuned.

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 5:42 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I refuse to believe that Trump could have knowledge of a vast conspiracy like this and not have blurted it out by now. Has he even tweeted about it?

So refuse to believe.

It doesn't matter. In time you won't be able to come to any other conclusion. Epstein us real. Trump pointing at the media camera in his home is real. Videos used in court setting will be verified as real.

Trump is more than 'Russia'. Had Clinton gotten into office, Epstein would be free, and for a very good reason. Stay tuned.

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 6:06 pm

SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:

No, your ego is secure. And I understand why.

So do I.  Because I'm prepared to talk about the darker more evil avenues of power that your mainstream news givers run a million miles from.  I repeat, Trump is hated, not because he spoke about pussies or because of his tweets, he's hated because the media you choose to watch need you to hate him.  They need you to hate him because they are on the run.  I repeat, had the lovely feminist Lady Hillary Clinton become President, Epstein would not now be in jail or remotely close to one.  

Keep tuned.

You should try to be less predictable sometimes.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Mon 29 Jul 2019, 6:33 pm

Pal Joey wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:Shame you don't enjoy listening to Trump's lies as they are more frequent and blatant.

I do enjoy listening to his lies.

Greatest hits or the live versions?

There's so many to choose from... who could forget his biggest hits like

"We're Gonna Build that Wall"
"That's Not What I Said"
"Mine's Bigger Than Yours"
"I Own That Building"
"I Was There First"
"Burgers At Tiffany's"
"We Should Build A Golf Course Here... Right Away"

and perhaps his most famous and memorable hit of all time: "You're Such a Loser To Me"
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