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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Fri 09 Aug 2019, 6:12 pm

Rather bizarrely they will fight in Jeddah

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Post by No name Bertie on Fri 09 Aug 2019, 6:56 pm

Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:Rather bizarrely they will fight in Jeddah
$$$ They must have received an offer they couldn't refuse $$$

Eddie Hearn suggested a whille back they had received very generous offers to hold the rematch in two different countries outside of the UK and USA, and worthy of looking into.   Anthony Joshua had recently said he would like the rematch to be held in Cardiff - so that his UK fans could attend.  While Andy Ruiz was reported as saying he didn't want the rematch in the UK because of the strange goings on regarding Dillian Whyte and UKAD.

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Post by compelling and rich on Sat 10 Aug 2019, 10:06 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/49255262

so read passion as more money then. strange choice, understand the likes of khan doing it but if i were joshua get it on home soil if possible were you have a much better chance of winning. its hardly like it wouldn't make much money over here

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 10 Aug 2019, 10:26 am

So much for AJ's 'nice guy' image - holding an event in and giving validation to one of the most deplorable regimes on earth.

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Post by Soul Requiem on Sat 10 Aug 2019, 10:30 am

Not a lot AJ can do, Ruiz is the champion so has all the bargaining power at the moment, he either accepts the terms or doesn't get his rematch.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Tue 13 Aug 2019, 7:02 pm

Not paying for a fight that takes place in Saudi Arabia......

Yemen atrocity........Jamal Khashoggi.....Discrimination against Women and religious minorities...

I don't blame Joshua so much as Hearn who continues to show he will do anything for a dollar bill...

Very sad..

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Post by Soul Requiem on Wed 14 Aug 2019, 8:01 am

Why would anyone pay for a fight that takes place in America?

Gun massacres seemingly every week, Donald Trump, economic discrimination against almost the majority.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 14 Aug 2019, 1:58 pm

Economic discrimination in every Country...

Right to bear arms was a misguided amendment by the Founding Fathers to protect democracy...

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Post by Noble-Surfer on Thu 15 Aug 2019, 10:52 am

Ruiz saying he hasn't actually signed yet. .. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/49355044

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 15 Aug 2019, 1:54 pm

Thank goodness someone has integrity...

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Post by Soul Requiem on Thu 15 Aug 2019, 3:55 pm

Joshua is starting the let façade slip by badmouthing Lewis, seems as though he's unable to accept any level of criticism and it could be his undoing in the rematch. Lennox was far from perfect but it's hard to argue he didn't learn from his mistakes and very quickly at that.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 15 Aug 2019, 5:28 pm

Lewis is a great Heavy....Joshua is a stiff.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Thu 15 Aug 2019, 6:15 pm

There's been some talks of Haymon/Ruiz trying to delay the fight long enough as so Ruiz would be stripped of the IBF belt. As such Hearn/Joshua could be tempted to face Pulev for the vacant belt in the UK.

Would be very odd if Ruiz would willing drop a belt as if he faces Wilder, 3:1 ratio probably gets him a $20m payday.

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Post by No name Bertie on Thu 15 Aug 2019, 9:30 pm

Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:There's been some talks of Haymon/Ruiz trying to delay the fight long enough as so Ruiz would be stripped of the IBF belt. As such Hearn/Joshua could be tempted to face Pulev for the vacant belt in the UK.

Would be very odd if Ruiz would willing drop a belt as if he faces Wilder, 3:1 ratio probably gets him a $20m payday.
That is an interesting theory - but ultimately depends on Hearn/Joshua failing to enforce the rematch.

I can see the benefit for Haymon/Ruiz wanting to try to go down this route (avoiding the immediate rematch) as they could do a sort of "Canelo" and fight bums (carefully chosen opponents) in Mexico and build up to megafights (Ruiz-Wilder, Ruiz - Joshua "rematch".  I am not sure a Ruiz - Tyson fight would be good style wise).  

I think Ruiz would be likely to knock out Joshua again in December, but there are reports that he has been relaxing and enjoying his new found fame - and the rematch in December is still going to be very tough for him - he got caught with quite a few power shots to the head from Joshua in the first fight.

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Post by Soul Requiem on Thu 15 Aug 2019, 10:42 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Lewis is a great Heavy....Joshua is a stiff.

I do like AJ but he's going the way of Hameed where image is more important than training properly and he only has a fraction of his natural talent.

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Post by Soul Requiem on Thu 15 Aug 2019, 10:45 pm

No name Bertie wrote:
Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:There's been some talks of Haymon/Ruiz trying to delay the fight long enough as so Ruiz would be stripped of the IBF belt. As such Hearn/Joshua could be tempted to face Pulev for the vacant belt in the UK.

Would be very odd if Ruiz would willing drop a belt as if he faces Wilder, 3:1 ratio probably gets him a $20m payday.
That is an interesting theory - but ultimately depends on Hearn/Joshua failing to enforce the rematch.

I can see the benefit for Haymon/Ruiz wanting to try to go down this route (avoiding the immediate rematch) as they could do a sort of "Canelo" and fight bums (carefully chosen opponents) in Mexico and build up to megafights (Ruiz-Wilder, Ruiz - Joshua "rematch".  I am not sure a Ruiz - Tyson fight would be good style wise).  

I think Ruiz would be likely to knock out Joshua again in December, but there are reports that he has been relaxing and enjoying his new found fame - and the rematch in December is still going to be very tough for him - he got caught with quite a few power shots to the head from Joshua in the first fight.

Say what you want Alvarez and his preferential treatment but he certainly does not fight bums.

Ruiz knows he got lucky first time around is likely to get taken out pretty damn quickly in a rematch, he quites telling that he's the one reluctant to sign for the fight and not AJ. Shocks happen all the time in boxing, they are very very rarely repeated.

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