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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 07 Sep 2019, 1:49 pm

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I don't understand why Buttler isn't hogging the strike here.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:39 pm

I really should stop posting. Silly review in the end as well. That was plumb.

Lets see if Curran can do something special. England will need it if they are to get anywhere near 300 now...
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:39 pm

I wish we had more ineffective batsmen averaging 53 in the series


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Post by VTR Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:40 pm

This is quickly descending into the usual garbage. England have been absolutely thrashed in a couple of fairly recent Oval Tests where they made 300 odd and it was nowhere near enough. They might not even get 250 here.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:41 pm

Bairstow averages 50 in first class cricket, but his Test career has been underwhelming. With Bairstow he seems to have a touch of Hick about him.

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Post by Gooseberry Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:42 pm

Englands batting is so so bad people are even suggesting Marsh is a good player.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:43 pm

Cummins is a class above

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:44 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Cummins is a class above

And his foot is over the line

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Post by Afro Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:44 pm

Curran out to a no-ball
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:47 pm

Makes you wonder how many have gone uncalled during the day
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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:52 pm

We are going to be lucky to see 80 overs bowled today...
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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:56 pm

eirebilly wrote:We are going to be lucky to see 80 overs bowled today...
It’s embarrassing. For every over lost, the fielding side should be penalised runs akin to the batting sides run rate. It will soon end this nonsense

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Post by Soul Requiem Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:56 pm

Something needs to be done about all these no balls, according to some in the press Cummins has been bowling them all day without being called. The over rate is also terrible and helps the aforementioned Cummins bowl longer spells.


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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 4:59 pm

This is what you are going to get from Curran, quick scoring. If he can put 30-40 on then England will feel slightly more confident.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:00 pm

Sadly, he only gets half of that and goes to Marsh for 15

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:02 pm

Just when you think they can’t get any worse, they collapse to Mitchell Marsh
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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:02 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:Something needs to be done about all these no balls, according to some in the press Cummins has been bowling them all day without being called. The over rate is also terrible and helps the aforementioned Cummins bowl longer spells.


I am not one for over doing technology in cricket but Hawkeye works well in Tennis...

Curran gone now. He has the ability to be a very good all rounder just not the composure...
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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:02 pm

Why was Curran ahead Woakes? Woakes has 1 Test hundred + 9 FC hundreds.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:02 pm

No application, no fight. Just go down swinging which is really what England need in this situation. Rolling Eyes

Getting bowled out by Marsh. Is that better or worse than Roston Chase doing the demolishing?

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Post by VTR Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:02 pm

Forget Steve Smith's Jack Leach impression, Sam Curran has bettered it with his impersonation of Moeen Ali

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:05 pm

VTR wrote:Forget Steve Smith's Jack Leach impression, Sam Curran has bettered it with his impersonation of Moeen Ali

Batted like someone who’s been carrying the drinks for months, with the occasional t20 thrown in
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:09 pm

Marsh gets his 4th and Woakes goes for 2.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:10 pm

That's it then...

30mins and the Aussies will be batting...
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Post by Pal Joey Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:11 pm

eirebilly wrote:That's it then...

30mins and the Aussies will be batting...

How's the light?

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Post by Duty281 Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:11 pm

Five wickets for 75 runs. For all Australia have bowled well, this is a poor effort on a good pitch.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:12 pm

Pal Joey wrote:
eirebilly wrote:That's it then...

30mins and the Aussies will be batting...

How's the light?

Not going to see 7pm I feel.
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Post by Gooseberry Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:13 pm

Yeah but we won the world cup.

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Post by Gooseberry Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:13 pm

The match will be over by then Billy.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:13 pm

Buttler might as well throw the bat at this - rest aren’t hanging about long
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Post by Pal Joey Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:14 pm

Gooseberry wrote:Yeah but we won the world cup.

But not the Final. You should aim for that next time. thumbsup

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Post by Duty281 Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:15 pm

eirebilly wrote:
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eirebilly wrote:That's it then...

30mins and the Aussies will be batting...

How's the light?

Not going to see 7pm I feel.

Can only play till 6:30!

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Post by Guest Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:19 pm

Being bent over by Marsh picard

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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:19 pm

I thought that due to the slow over rate, play could go until 7pm or is that forgotten if England get bowled out?
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Post by Duty281 Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:21 pm

eirebilly wrote:I thought that due to the slow over rate, play could go until 7pm or is that forgotten if England get bowled out?

18:00 is the scheduled close, but they can go for 30 minutes longer if they don't bowl the overs in time (which they won't!). For the previous tests, the close was extended to 18:30/19:00 because of rain.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:22 pm

Duty281 wrote:
eirebilly wrote:I thought that due to the slow over rate, play could go until 7pm or is that forgotten if England get bowled out?

18:00 is the scheduled close, but they can go for 30 minutes longer if they don't bowl the overs in time (which they won't!). For the previous tests, the close was extended to 18:30/19:00 because of rain.

Ah, ok. Cheers lad thumbsup
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Post by compelling and rich Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:38 pm

pretty sure we was told archer can bat?

butler needs to hog strike now and stop giving the tail enders the strike. hopefully leach can stick around with him

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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:45 pm

Buttler on the march, right approach give the circumstances.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:48 pm

Jos appears to have found some form again these past two matches - not to the levels of last summer, but getting there
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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:51 pm

Games from the Aussies, they do not want England out tonight and have to face Broad for a few overs...
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:54 pm

Maybe some red ball cricket makes it easier to play red ball cricket. Won’t catch on

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Post by Pal Joey Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:56 pm

eirebilly wrote:Games from the Aussies, they do not want England out tonight and have to face Broad for a few overs...

Not sure he was faking it but it's a good way to get rid of Paine for the next series.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:57 pm

Bold move but I would almost consider declaring now and give Broad, Archer and Woakes a shot at the Aussies for 20mins.
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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 5:58 pm

Pal Joey wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Games from the Aussies, they do not want England out tonight and have to face Broad for a few overs...

Not sure he was faking it but it's a good way to get rid of Paine for the next series.

Jaysus lad, it must be stupid time at yours?
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Post by compelling and rich Thu 12 Sep 2019, 6:00 pm

eirebilly wrote:Bold move but I would almost consider declaring now and give Broad, Archer and Woakes a shot at the Aussies for 20mins.

cant do that while buttler is still there. i can understand if it was archer, broad and leach left (even then i still wouldnt). jos can easily add another quick 30 here

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Post by Pal Joey Thu 12 Sep 2019, 6:01 pm

eirebilly wrote:
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eirebilly wrote:Games from the Aussies, they do not want England out tonight and have to face Broad for a few overs...

Not sure he was faking it but it's a good way to get rid of Paine for the next series.

Jaysus lad, it must be stupid time at yours?

Yeah, 3am Very Happy Went to bed listening to Boycs & Co.... had to get up when those wickets fell.

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Post by VTR Thu 12 Sep 2019, 6:03 pm

Valuable runs these to help reduce an innings plus 150 defeat to a far more respectable innings plus 100 defeat. All that including a Mitch Marsh century

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 12 Sep 2019, 6:06 pm

I stayed up in case Jos started throwing hands

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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 6:06 pm

compelling and rich wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Bold move but I would almost consider declaring now and give Broad, Archer and Woakes a shot at the Aussies for 20mins.

cant do that while buttler is still there. i can understand if it was archer, broad and leach left (even then i still wouldnt). jos can easily add another quick 30 here

I would rather take the chance myself and give the bowlers a shot for 20mins. That's just me though Very Happy

Proven wrong now though as Buttler is surging Very Happy
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Post by compelling and rich Thu 12 Sep 2019, 6:10 pm

eirebilly wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Bold move but I would almost consider declaring now and give Broad, Archer and Woakes a shot at the Aussies for 20mins.

cant do that while buttler is still there. i can understand if it was archer, broad and leach left (even then i still wouldnt). jos can easily add another quick 30 here

I would rather take the chance myself and give the bowlers a shot for 20mins. That's just me though Very Happy

Proven wrong now though as Buttler is surging Very Happy

and if it doesnt pay off we might have robbed ourselves of a extra 30/40 runs. if it was all tail id much rather they throw the bat at it to try add quick runs

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Post by eirebilly Thu 12 Sep 2019, 6:17 pm

Of course you are right, compelling. I am just a bit too aggressive in my approach Very Happy
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Post by compelling and rich Thu 12 Sep 2019, 6:24 pm

if only out top order could apply themselves like leach does.

saw earlier nas and athers get a bit for not being very good technically, they'd both walk into this side. neither massively talented but would stick it out in tough conditions unlike our current supposedly more talented batsmen.

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