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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 09 Sep 2019, 12:10 pm

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TeamPlayedWonDrawnLostTriesPFPA+/-BPPoints
Japan330098741+46214
Ireland3201117422+52311
Scotland320113982771210
Samoa310275381-2815
Russia3003119125-10600


Japan 30-10 Russia              
Ireland 27-3 Scotland  
Russia 9-34 Samoa                        
Japan 19-12 Ireland                          
Scotland 34-0 Samoa
Ireland 35-0 Russia
Japan 38-19 Samoa
Scotland 61-0 Russia
 

                                       
                     
12 October 2019         Ireland v Samoa                         Fukuoka Hakatanomori Stadium, Fukuoka
13 October 2019         Japan v Scotland                         International Stadium Yokohama, Yokohama


Two games left. If Ireland get a TBP win on Saturday they qualify for the quarter finals irrespective of the result on Sunday. Any other result and they need to wait and see what happens between Japan and Scotland.
Any win for Japan and they will top the group (in fact a draw or losing with two bonus points will guarantee the same)
Most interesting scenario is if Ireland win without a bonus point - opening up a chance for Scotland to top the group if all 3 teams end up on 15pts and Scotland are able to keep their points difference ahead of Ireland.


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Post by miaow on Wed 25 Sep 2019, 7:07 pm

SecretFly wrote:This is Pool A.  We got games to think about and talk about.

Good point. Apologies. It was a wry joke taken too literally.

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Post by Old Man on Wed 25 Sep 2019, 9:07 pm

miaow wrote:
Old Man wrote:True, Farrell on Andre Esterhuizen, but that was someone else who refereed.


No, no. Farrell did it twice last autumn. Wait to the very end of the video and listen to what Peyper says...




Peyper simply shouldn’t think.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Thu 26 Sep 2019, 7:05 am

Carty starts at 10 for Ireland, Pom at 6, Earls and Kearney back in and Farrell at 12 again. Best captain.

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Post by SecretFly on Thu 26 Sep 2019, 8:59 am

Japan being given the respect their potential threat deserves.  Solid team overall.  A lot of continuity from last game.  
But it will need the same impetus as against Scotland to discourage Japan early enough.  We have to make a crunching statement to them as much as we made it to Scotland - no sexy fancy stuff through us (or around us) boys.
High energy, intent and alertness one more time and then, if the result is right, we might be able to take a controlled version of a slight breather in the next two games.
The Japan game is kinda like Scotland MarkII, only this time they've be forewarned about how we mean to negate the fizz. So with a smart coach and cute players, will they have worked out a formula?

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Post by eirebilly on Thu 26 Sep 2019, 10:00 am

Farrell starting at 12 is very good. I hope that after his performance against Scotland, he will now rightly be seen as being ahead of Aki.
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Post by Geen sport voor watjes on Thu 26 Sep 2019, 10:43 pm

Or maybe we should just enjoy that we have now got a ready replacement in nearly every position.

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Post by miaow on Fri 27 Sep 2019, 12:28 am

Leitch rested suggests minor injury or being rested for Scotland in the knowledge he can't go back to back in a week?

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Post by rodders on Fri 27 Sep 2019, 10:09 am

Strong team, this could be a tricky game.

Looking forward to seeing Farrell in midfield again but not sharing the hate for Aki....

Carty needs a big game, I have a feeling Sexton is not right but they are taking a calculated risk he can make the QF.
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Post by eirebilly on Fri 27 Sep 2019, 10:45 am

Hate for Aki rodders?

No hate, just don't see him as the best option.
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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri 27 Sep 2019, 11:10 am

I imagine its a case of personal taste however, I think Aki has probably been one of our better players over the last year or so. The great thing is though that Farrell has always looked good everything he has started.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri 27 Sep 2019, 11:11 am

rodders wrote:Strong team, this could be a tricky game.

Looking forward to seeing Farrell in midfield again but not sharing the hate for Aki....

Carty needs a big game, I have a feeling Sexton is not right but they are taking a calculated risk he can make the QF.

I bet its all hype re Sexton, he will be fine. I expect him to play his first ever quarter final v SA.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Fri 27 Sep 2019, 11:16 am

I am worried about Conan though. Apparently he was due to start ahead of O'Mahony for the Japan game but then injured his foot in training. Good chance Jordi Murphy will get called up. Pity because Conan was working very well with Stander and VdF.

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Post by eirebilly on Fri 27 Sep 2019, 11:29 am

Conan would be a huge loss, if true that's for sure.
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Post by carpet baboon on Fri 27 Sep 2019, 11:53 am

Joe said someone stood on his foot. So if it's a break that's him out. Hopefully it's just a bad bruise a d resting him.
But seems a bit much resting for a bruise mind.

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Post by SecretFly on Fri 27 Sep 2019, 12:08 pm

Maybe simply saving him (and Sexton) under the usual all-over safety mechanism called 'Why Risk It?'

We know this is a serious game.  Undoubtedly, when we get to Samoa, it'll also be ranked as serious - and should be.  But for now we class this Japanese game as our most dangerous remaining game in the pool.  That might push the coaches to 'risk it' with players but again, if you don't have a squad strong enough to trust this Japanese game to without risking players unecessarily, then why turn up at the WC at all?

I hope the team are playing to some very rigid systematic tempo and intensity rules.  I hope all players know what is required of them when they step in and that they have to meet some serious targets to keep this WC assault going.
If I'm satisfied that the demands at coaching level are now at their highest, then players coming and going won't worry me unduly.  The strength of the squad is the key

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Post by Old Man on Fri 27 Sep 2019, 12:10 pm

carpet baboon wrote:Joe said someone stood on his foot. So if it's a break that's him out. Hopefully it's just a bad bruise a d resting him.
But seems a bit much resting for a bruise mind.

Totally off topic, and I apologise in advance, but every time I see your name I subconsciously read carpet muncher Very Happy

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Post by westisbest on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 8:42 am

Needed that try just to edge ahead a bit more.
Hopefully get the 4 tries before half time.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 8:54 am

Japan playing very well so far, quite physical.

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 8:56 am

Japan giving it a real go in the first half only 7/8 minutes to go for the end on the first half and Japan 6 point behind. Come on Japan.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:01 am

Gardener keeping Japan in the game so far

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:07 am

Here we go blame the ref for Ireland  giving away penalties. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Engine#4 on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:08 am

He's a bit of a homer but it's a Best overthrow and Murray dawdling at a good attacking scrum that handed the opportunities to Japan.

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Post by Old Man on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:11 am

Good effort by Japan, can they keep it close for 80 minutes though?

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:11 am

Engine#4 wrote:He's a bit of a homer but it's a Best overthrow and Murray dawdling at a good attacking scrum that handed the opportunities to Japan.

Agree on those two points but some pretty soft decisions going Japans way so far. Japan have also been very physical and well organised.

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Post by Cyril on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:14 am

Great to watch Japan play their running rugby. So refreshing after having to endure the Irish style of play.

Ireland being out-muscled and out-played. Japan will probably tire though.

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Post by Engine#4 on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:22 am

laughing I hate offloads, linebreaks and cross kicks too. More up the jumper stuff needed

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:23 am

Japanese scrum looking good

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Post by tigertattie on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:24 am

Who was it that called out Healy’s illegal scrummaging? They are 100% correct
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Post by Cyril on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:27 am

Yep, Healy is illegal every single scrum.

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Post by Cyril on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:30 am

Swinging arm high tackle there by Ireland on that replay.

Good game this.

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Post by Taylorman on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:35 am

Come on Japan!

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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:43 am

Ireland look knackered, c'mon Japan
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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:45 am

Yessssss great stuff
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Post by Cyril on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:46 am

Brilliant! Get in Japan!

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Post by lostinwales on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:46 am

Hmmm

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:47 am

What a great try for Japan. Ireland really feeling the pressure right now.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:47 am

Yes take that Ireland! Come on Japan, another upset and the country goes crazy.

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Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:48 am

Teams that wear green do seem to struggle against Japan in World Cups

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:48 am

日本 clap 日本 clap 日本 clap
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Post by lostinwales on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:49 am

You have to ask yourself - can Japan keep up the pace? Ireland look shellshocked

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Post by Taylorman on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:49 am

16-12 Japan. Who’d have thought this lowly NZ coached and captained side would have a chance at leading at 60’.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:49 am

tigertattie wrote:Who was it that called out Healy’s illegal scrummaging? They are 100% correct

Yes I was. Also keep an eye on Kilcoyne, Porter and Furlong. Always pulling it down and it's so obvious.


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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:49 am

Ireland will win but not sure Scotland will
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Post by tigertattie on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:50 am

Scotland have done Japan a massive favour by letting Ireland think they are better than they are when in fact all they did was beat a terrible Scotland team.

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Post by Taylorman on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:51 am

How good are Ireland coming back when down I wonder...oh, wait, we’ve covered that one.

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:53 am

Great turn over for Japan.  How many penalties is that for Ireland?

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Post by lostinwales on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:54 am

Ireland should of scored. Didn't. This is going to be so close

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Post by Cyril on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:58 am

Ireland could still win this and will qualify from the pool. You do worry what NZ or SA will do to them though. Could be very messy.

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Post by Engine#4 on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:59 am

Swinging arm puts Kearney out of the game. Carbery taken around the neck there too

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Post by Taylorman on Sat 28 Sep 2019, 9:59 am

Jamie Joseph next Ireland coach?

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