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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 09 Sep 2019, 12:25 pm

First topic message reminder :

TeamPlayedWonDrawnLostTriesPFPA+/-BPPoints
Italy220014952966210
New Zealand1100223131004
South Africa10011323-10100
Namibia100132247-2500
Canada10011748-4100


New Zealand 23 South Africa 10
Italy 47 Namibia 22
Italy 48 Canada 7 
                     

28 September 2019     South Africa v Namibia                   City of Toyota Stadium, Toyota
2 October 2019           New Zealand v Canada                   Oita Stadium, Ōita
4 October 2019           South Africa v Italy                        Shizuoka Stadium Ecopa, Fukuroi
6 October 2019           New Zealand v Namibia                  Tokyo Stadium, Chōfu
8 October 2019           South Africa v Canada                    Kobe Misaki Stadium, Kobe
12 October 2019         New Zealand v Italy                        City of Toyota Stadium, Toyota
13 October 2019         Namibia v Canada                           Kamaishi Recovery Memorial Stadium, Kamaishi


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Post by Pal Joey on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:41 am

Old Man wrote:It is good for my ego Very Happy

Low scoring, huh? Smile
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Post by SecretFly on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:41 am

SA trying to beat NZs 71 points.

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Post by Old Man on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:41 am

Tight game Whistle

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Post by LondonTiger on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:53 am

3 games in 13 days for Canada against Tier 1 Countries.

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Post by SecretFly on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:57 am

Another red?


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Post by TightHEAD on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:57 am

That is harsh.
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Post by SecretFly on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:58 am

There was a high hit earlier when Canada were attacking on one of theirs. Not even a TMO?

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Post by TightHEAD on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:59 am

Tier 1 teams are allowed to tackle high.
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Post by Galted on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:59 am

Silly by Canada, that's really swung the game in SA's favour.
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Post by robbo277 on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 11:59 am

Silly by the Canadian 19.

You can't run in with your arm tucked and smash someone in the head. Even if you were only trundling in quite slowly and didn't hit him all that hard.

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Post by bsando on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:00 pm

And now a red card, gulp!

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Post by Duty281 on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:00 pm

That was a stupid and dangerous hit.

Are Canada allowed to forfeit at half-time?

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Post by TightHEAD on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:01 pm

SA were slowing the ball down the Ref was there allowing it to happen, that for me is no different than multiple clear outs we have seen in this game already.


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Post by LondonTiger on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:01 pm

Duty281 wrote:That was a stupid and dangerous hit.

Are Canada allowed to forfeit at half-time?

Would be the kindest thing to do.

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Post by Duty281 on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:05 pm

Oh Canada, indeed.

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Post by bsando on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:05 pm

Bit of a wakeup call for Canadian Rugby really. They really need to find some funding or work with the USA to remain competitive.


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Post by TightHEAD on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:06 pm

that is awful.

World rugby need to help teams like Canada or rework the RWC so mismatches like this never happen, would be better off with Romania here instead of Canada.
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Post by robbo277 on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:07 pm

Was Steyn ever back 10 there?

Odd decision to do a quick tap on your own 5. Especially when you then throw an intercept.

Nightmare half from Canada.

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Post by Galted on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:07 pm

To put it into some perspective, when NZ beat Japan in '95 the halftime score was 84-3.
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Post by TightHEAD on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:07 pm

robbo277 wrote:Was Steyn ever back 10 there?

Odd decision to do a quick tap on your own 5. Especially when you then throw an intercept.

Nightmare half from Canada.

Fair point, was it checked?
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Post by robbo277 on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:09 pm

TightHEAD wrote:
robbo277 wrote:Was Steyn ever back 10 there?

Odd decision to do a quick tap on your own 5. Especially when you then throw an intercept.

Nightmare half from Canada.

Fair point, was it checked?

Unsure it'll impact the result, but he was up quick. I suppose he starts back 5, so he's got less far to drop.

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Post by TightHEAD on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:26 pm

How many offside missed by the refs?

Brits might as well be wearing red and stood in their attacking line.
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Post by TightHEAD on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:27 pm

BOOM.

comeback on.
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Post by SecretFly on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:27 pm

Here we go. The ref is now psychologically captured now trying to help Canada stay in the game.... by penalising SA for things he might have overlooked in the first half.

Consistency please.

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Post by TightHEAD on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:28 pm

oh wait TMO getting involved again!
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Post by robbo277 on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:38 pm

Schalk Brits bowing when he receives the ball from the stadium staff for a lineout is a nice touch.

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Post by LondonTiger on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 12:38 pm

The Schalk Brits dream continues.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 1:38 pm

There was a recent convo about some hookers being too small for pro rugby, I think Schalk Brits disproves that. Incredible player.

Today's ref and TMO were solid. If that TMO was overseeing Aus vs Wales then you can bet the Wallabies would have had 14 points chalked off. I hope these guys get to officiate some bigger games in place of French refs.

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Post by LondonTiger on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 1:52 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:There was a recent convo about some hookers being too small for pro rugby, I think Schalk Brits disproves that. Incredible player.

I think that may have been his last game (having retired once before), unless perhaps SA are in the 3rd/4th playoff.

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Post by maestegmafia on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 7:03 pm

Just watched today’s game. Fair play Jeff Hassler this is the longest run of games I have seen him play. He was injured every other game when he played for Ospreys

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Post by The Great Aukster on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 7:23 pm

The World Cup Finals should be four pools of four teams playing with the same amount of time between games, but that would obviously be too fair for World Rugby's taste.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 7:34 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:There was a recent convo about some hookers being too small for pro rugby, I think Schalk Brits disproves that. Incredible player.

I think that may have been his last game (having retired once before), unless perhaps SA are in the 3rd/4th playoff.

Him and Pienaar have a few more playing years I reckon. Brits less so, but to still be playing at this level at age 38, that's one tough SOB.

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Post by Engine#4 on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 8:49 pm

Galted wrote:To put it into some perspective, when NZ beat Japan in '95 the halftime score was 84-3.

Could have sworn it was 24-3 at half time and Japan stormed back to win ia classic...or did I dream that

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Post by Galted on Tue 08 Oct 2019, 9:01 pm

Engine#4 wrote:
Galted wrote:To put it into some perspective, when NZ beat Japan in '95 the halftime score was 84-3.

Could have sworn it was 24-3 at half time and Japan stormed back to win ia classic...or did I dream that

I was at the game you mentioned but couldn't really concentrate as I had Winona Ryder and Michelle Pfeiffer sitting either side bickering over who got to hit the sack with me first. It was very wet if I remember correctly.

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Post by Cyril on Wed 09 Oct 2019, 12:10 am

Just watched the highlights of the game. The Canada red card was very much the type of challenge that Bakkies Botha was famed for. Funny how times change.

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Post by Pie on Wed 09 Oct 2019, 4:54 am

BS

#Justice for Bakkies

Nice to see the lamentable Canadians have an impact on a game for once though....they really do waste a RWC spot for a team that actually has a clue

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Post by RiscaGame on Wed 09 Oct 2019, 8:20 am

It’s because they’ve been subjected to Kingsley Jones’ coaching.

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Post by maestegmafia on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 4:32 pm

From the bbc


“Italy head coach Conor O'Shea says his side's Rugby World Cup exit is "devastating" despite needing a "miracle match" to beat New Zealand.

The Azzurri had to beat the All Blacks in their final Pool B match to reach the quarter-finals, but the game was cancelled because of Typhoon Hagibis.

"We still had a chance and god knows what happens in sport," he told BBC Radio 5 Live.

"It was emotional when we heard the news after training this morning."


I’m my opinion Italy just got a draw against the all blacks that is surely their greatest result in international rugby.

Only the result is remembered never the game..

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 4:41 pm

More of a no result in reality (with a 2 point windfall) than a draw though, isn't it?
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Post by Collapse2005 on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 4:43 pm

Pal Joey wrote:More of a no result in reality (with a 2 point windfall) than a draw though, isn't it?

Yes, it will be recorded as a cancelled game.

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Post by Afro on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 4:55 pm

maestegmafia wrote:

"It was emotional when we heard the news after training this morning."


I assume because they trained for no reason and could have used the time for something a bit more fun.
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Post by Taylorman on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 4:56 pm

maestegmafia wrote:From the bbc


“Italy head coach Conor O'Shea says his side's Rugby World Cup exit is "devastating" despite needing a "miracle match" to beat New Zealand.

The Azzurri had to beat the All Blacks in their final Pool B match to reach the quarter-finals, but the game was cancelled because of Typhoon Hagibis.

"We still had a chance and god knows what happens in sport," he told BBC Radio 5 Live.

"It was emotional when we heard the news after training this morning."


I’m my opinion Italy just got a draw against the all blacks that is surely their greatest result in international rugby.

Only the result is remembered never the game..

Easy when there’s no game to remember.

Why the complaining then? They got their best ever result without even playing. Parisse should be celebrating. Oh, doesn’t work like that huh?

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Post by Pie on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 5:16 pm

Parisse is of course completely right, had the All blacks needed this game to qualify World Rugby would have moved heaven and earth to accommodate them, little Italy....not so much as an attempt to do so and in doing so they have effectively destroyed the spirit of the RWC.

Im surprised the Mighty ABs haven't suggested doing a rain dance to shoo that Typhoon away

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Post by Taylorman on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 5:24 pm

Nah, he’s emotional, and there’s no grounds to suggest that other than typical AB envy...we get that a lot, and if they could move heaven and earth then all the need to do is shift the typhoon out to sea more.

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Post by Pie on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 5:53 pm

I can just imagine the national tantrum of 'emotion' that would be flooding our way if this was the ABs being kicked out...

1. refereeing conspiracy
2. Food poisoning
3. This typhoon has no rispikt for the haka
4. The winner should share it with us
5. any of the above

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Post by Taylorman on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 6:34 pm

Blah blah blah. How original. You need more material.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 6:56 pm

Taylorman wrote:Nah, he’s emotional, and there’s no grounds to suggest that other than typical AB envy...we get that a lot, and if they could move heaven and earth then all the need to do is shift the typhoon out to sea more.

It doesnt matter of the AB were guatanteed to win. You cant deny teams like Italy their moment. Makes a mockery of the world cup.

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Post by Taylorman on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 7:09 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Nah, he’s emotional, and there’s no grounds to suggest that other than typical AB envy...we get that a lot, and if they could move heaven and earth then all the need to do is shift the typhoon out to sea more.

It doesnt matter of the AB were guatanteed to win. You cant deny teams like Italy their moment. Makes a mockery of the world cup.

And I’m not disagreeing with that. Everyone does. But that’s different from extending that to ‘NZ would be favoured when making typhoon decisions’ now that is a mockery. Some here agree with that. I don’t. So you get a balance.

Something badly needed on this site. I get Parisse is upset but pointing the finger at NZ is a new low. It ain’t t our fault there’s a flipping typhoon. It ain’t our fault Italy lost 47-3 to the side we beat. But hey, let’s just let that go huh?

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Post by alive555 on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 7:15 pm

So according to World Rugby if the final is called off it will be declared a draw

Utter farce
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Post by Collapse2005 on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 7:28 pm

Taylorman wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Nah, he’s emotional, and there’s no grounds to suggest that other than typical AB envy...we get that a lot, and if they could move heaven and earth then all the need to do is shift the typhoon out to sea more.

It doesnt matter of the AB were guatanteed to win. You cant deny teams like Italy their moment. Makes a mockery of the world cup.

And I’m not disagreeing with that. Everyone does. But that’s different from extending that to ‘NZ would be favoured when making typhoon decisions’ now that is a mockery. Some here agree with that. I don’t. So you get a balance.

Something badly needed on this site. I get Parisse is upset but pointing the finger at NZ is a new low. It ain’t t our fault there’s a flipping typhoon. It ain’t our fault Italy lost 47-3 to the side we beat.  But hey, let’s just let that go huh?

Well the reverse of that is Hansen coming out applauding world rugby on a great decision. Pretty disrespectful to Italy. Was quite surprised by his comments.

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