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Post by smashingstormcrow on Tue 10 Sep 2019, 12:15 pm

So Tyson Fury will soon be facing another guy that most of us have never heard of, and presumably being paid handsomely in the process.

How much longer can this go on for? How many more tomato cans can he face before it seriously damages his legacy and marketability? I understand he's building his fan base in American at the moment, but surely they'll only tolerate so much of this rubbish.

We are told that the Wilder fight is next, but I don't buy it as the Ortiz date hasn't been announced yet. Obviously Joshua and Ruiz are busy. So what's stopping him facing a Povetkin, Parker, Whyte, Pulev, etc? Hell, even Joe Joyce would be an acceptable match up and would probably sell out Cardiff.

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Post by No name Bertie on Tue 10 Sep 2019, 6:16 pm

He seems a valid opponent given the claim of some that there are very few top level heavyweight boxers.  Parker is fighting Chisora, Povetkin was fighting Hughie Fury, Whyte is in limbo ...

Einar Otto Wallin: Swedish professional boxer.  No. 4 in WBA heavyweight rankings, No. 11 in IBF  rankings. 28 years, 21 professional fights - undefeated (20 wins + one no contest),  6 ft 6 in tall,  Reach 78 in.  Holds  WBA Continental heavyweight title, holds European Union & Swedish heavyweight titles.  Fought Anthony Joshua twice as an amateur - outpointed both times.  Sparring partner of Anthony Joshua, Jarrell Miller and Adam Kownacki.

Tyson Fury needs to keep busy and focused after his long lay off and mental health issues.  He has never ducked a fight - has fought Klischko and Wilder on their home patch - and his agreeing to fight with Wilder in their first fight looked suicidal given his time out and rustiness.

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Post by Soul Requiem on Tue 10 Sep 2019, 10:11 pm

No name Bertie wrote:He seems a valid opponent given the claim of some that there are very few top level heavyweight boxers.  Parker is fighting Chisora, Povetkin was fighting Hughie Fury, Whyte is in limbo ...

Einar Otto Wallin: Swedish professional boxer.  No. 4 in WBA heavyweight rankings, No. 11 in IBF  rankings. 28 years, 21 professional fights - undefeated (20 wins + one no contest),  6 ft 6 in tall,  Reach 78 in.  Holds  WBA Continental heavyweight title, holds European Union & Swedish heavyweight titles.  Fought Anthony Joshua twice as an amateur - outpointed both times.  Sparring partner of Anthony Joshua, Jarrell Miller and Adam Kownacki.

Tyson Fury needs to keep busy and focused after his long lay off and mental health issues.  He has never ducked a fight - has fought Klischko and Wilder on their home patch - and his agreeing to fight with Wilder in their first fight looked suicidal given his time out and rustiness.

Great stuff again Bertie but you ever watched him fight?

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Post by No name Bertie on Tue 10 Sep 2019, 11:11 pm

Yea - okay - you both seem right. He looks like European level at best.

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Post by smashingstormcrow on Wed 11 Sep 2019, 1:08 pm

A couple of points - yes Fury has fought Wilder and Wlad, and did great. But his other opponents have been B-grade. You could understand that 15-20 fights into his career.. but these days he's possibly the best in the division, he's at the prime age for a heavy, and he can no longer claim to be on the comeback trail. He simply shouldn't be fighting guys like this now... Wallin is possibly even a step backwards from Francesco Pianeta!!

Also, weren't David Haye's two opponents for his comeback (Mark de Mori and someone else I'd never heard of) both top-10 ranked by one of the major bodies, yet turned out to be essentially walking punchbags? It doesn't really mean much.


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Post by Just John on Sun 15 Sep 2019, 8:58 am


Tyson Fury battled to a points win over Otto Wallin as he fought for over nine rounds with heavy cuts to maintain his unbeaten record in a dramatic bout in Las Vegas.

116-112 117-111 118-110

Poor night for Tyson, at 18 stone, he looked very weak

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Post by smashingstormcrow on Sun 15 Sep 2019, 9:52 am

Just John wrote:
Poor night for Tyson, at 18 stone, he looked very weak

I'm not convinced by this argument. No reason for a professional athlete to be carrying around pounds of fat.

He just wasn't particularly good for the first couple of rounds, seemed a bit uncoordinated and not really switched on. Then got a very bad cut and struggled for the remainder.

I still think Wallin was a very sub-par opponent for the supposed division #1, but nice to be proved wrong and see a competitive fight.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun 15 Sep 2019, 11:48 am

Fury doesn’t seem capable of his best performances when he faces lower level opponents.

Going back a few years McDermott the first time they fought - dreadful performances.

Last night he obviously overlooked or more so had no respect for Wallin.

Fury’s three best performances have been when he’s been the ‘underdog’ - Chisora I, Klitschko and Wilder.

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Post by rapidringsroad on Mon 16 Sep 2019, 12:36 am

Fury definitely doesn't punch his weight and when opponents realize this they will pressure him hoping to land the big one. Saying that, Fury was quite mobile in short spells and his hand speed is good and he won at the weekend but at no time was Wallin in danger of being stopped.

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Post by smashingstormcrow on Mon 16 Sep 2019, 2:27 pm

Yes, Fury certainly doesn't carry explosive power. In fact I wonder whether if in the Wilder rematch (assuming it happens), Wilder might be willing to eat a few more jabs in order to land the power shots.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 16 Sep 2019, 4:04 pm

Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:Fury doesn’t seem capable of his best performances when he faces lower level opponents.

Going back a few years McDermott the first time they fought - dreadful performances.

Last night he obviously overlooked or more so had no respect for Wallin.

Fury’s three best performances have been when he’s been the ‘underdog’ - Chisora I, Klitschko and Wilder.

So he is unprofessional then....Fair enough..

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Post by LondonTiger on Tue 17 Sep 2019, 10:39 am

smashingstormcrow wrote:Yes, Fury certainly doesn't carry explosive power. In fact I wonder whether if in the Wilder rematch (assuming it happens), Wilder might be willing to eat a few more jabs in order to land the power shots.

Wilder showed what can happen if/when he does connect with Fury. The American was perhaps unlucky that there was one loooong count. Fury does not seem to have much power, but is Wilder able to force himself to risk taking a shot in order to perhaps knockout the Brit?

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Post by Mr Bounce on Wed 18 Sep 2019, 10:39 pm

Wilder knows he'll be outboxed and will lose on points if he doesn't put Fury down and out. I reckon it'll be a one-sided affair if it's anything like the last fight, with Wilder not getting his shots off and Fury boxing from range. However, Wilder is coming off a massive KO win over Breazeale and will want to prove his point again. Wouldn't be surprised to see Wilder throwing caution to the wind and just going for it.

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Post by smashingstormcrow Yesterday at 1:08 pm

Yeah I think that's a real possibility... a much more aggressive and gung-ho Wilder next time.

But will the rematch actually go ahead? It's certainly not happening in February, is it! Is Wilder even going to fight Ortiz this year? Would Fury look at the Joshua/Ruiz winner instead, if there's no movement on the Wilder situation?

I'm a bit worried that this could be the start of a verrrry long period of inactivity for Fury, as he probably won't be allowed to take an interim fight because of those cuts...

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