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Post by BamBam on Thu 03 Oct 2019, 2:11 pm

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England: 15. Elliot Daly; 14. Anthony Watson, 13. Manu Tuilagi, 12. Owen Farrell (c), 11. Jonny May; 10. George Ford, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Joe Marler, 2. Jamie George, 3. Kyle Sinckler; 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis; 6. Tom Curry, 7. Sam Underhill, 8. Billy Vunipola.

Replacements: 16. Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17. Mako Vunipola, 18. Dan Cole, 19. Courtney Lawes, 20. Lewis Ludlam, 21. Willi Heinz, 22. Henry Slade, 23. Jack Nowell.

Argentina: 15. Emiliano Boffelli, 14. Matías Moroni, 13. Matias Orlando, 12. Jeronimo de la Fuente, 11. Santiago Carreras, 10. Benjamin Urdapilleta, 9. Tomas Cubelli, 8. Javier Ortega Desio, 7. Marcos Kremer, 6. Pablo Matera (c), 5. Tomas Lavanini, 4. Guido Petti Pagadizabal, 3. Juan Figallo, 2. Julian Montoya, 1. Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro

Replacements: 16. Agustín Creevy, 17. Mayco Vivas, 18. Santiago Medrano, 19. Matias Alemanno, 20. Tomas Lezana, 21. Felipe Ezcurra, 22. Lucas Mensa, 23. Bautista Delguy

Thought it was time for a match thread

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:18 am

Great well worked try for England.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:19 am

Soul Requiem wrote:Underhill is such a beast.

Yes he is. But Curry is even better. Then consider his brother is class...Ludlum settling nicely at this level then Willis...and that's without considering the big boys coming through at 6...like Hill , Dombrandt etc...

Eddie has some headaches ahead....


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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:19 am

Soul Requiem wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:It's the second game in a row where farrell has taken a high hit and not had a hia. Medical and coaching staff failing on that front along with  the officials.

You don't need a HIA if there's not an issue.

You need an HIA to determine if there is an issue or not, that’s the whole point of them!

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Post by Soul Requiem on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:19 am

It must be a nightmare being a man down against a team with three 7's playing.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:21 am

BP win and job done. Farrell’s even landed a kick. Can afford to rotate for the French game.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:21 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:Underhill is such a beast.

Yes he is. But Curry is even better. Then consider his brother is class...Ludlum settling nicely at this level then Willis...and that's without considering the big boys coming through at 6...like Hill , Dombrandt etc...

Eddie has some headaches ahead....

Both Willis brothers and Earl from Sarries quality players

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:22 am

Soul Requiem wrote:It must be a nightmare being a man down against a team with three 7's playing.

Three very physical mobile 7s...

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Post by Soul Requiem on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:23 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:Underhill is such a beast.

Yes he is. But Curry is even better. Then consider his brother is class...Ludlum settling nicely at this level then Willis...and that's without considering the big boys coming through at 6...like Hill , Dombrandt etc...

Eddie has some headaches ahead....

To think last world cup it was Robshaw, Haskell and Wood.

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Post by kingelderfield on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:24 am

How many turn overs?

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:24 am

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:Underhill is such a beast.

Yes he is. But Curry is even better. Then consider his brother is class...Ludlum settling nicely at this level then Willis...and that's without considering the big boys coming through at 6...like Hill , Dombrandt etc...

Eddie has some headaches ahead....

Both Willis brothers and Earl from Sarries quality players

Absolutely!! And Mercer aswell.

Huge array of options. Be fascinsting to see how he decides to balance his back row.

Traditional monster at 6, flyer at 7
Or 2 7s as we do at the moment...

Or will he select horses for courses....

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Post by Soul Requiem on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:27 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:Underhill is such a beast.

Yes he is. But Curry is even better. Then consider his brother is class...Ludlum settling nicely at this level then Willis...and that's without considering the big boys coming through at 6...like Hill , Dombrandt etc...

Eddie has some headaches ahead....

Both Willis brothers and Earl from Sarries quality players

Absolutely!! And Mercer aswell.

Huge array of options. Be fascinsting to see how he decides to balance his back row.

Traditional monster at 6, flyer at 7
Or 2 7s as we do at the moment...

Or will he select horses for courses....

With Underhill and Curry I don't think you need the monster 6, they do all that work between them with much more mobility.

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Post by kingelderfield on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:27 am

We'll need a step up against France if wer'e to deal with an Ozy side who are yet to really hit their straps.

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Post by maestegmafia on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:29 am

Duty281 wrote:BP win and job done. Farrell’s even landed a kick. Can afford to rotate for the French game.

Probably the safest idea, but I imagine the coaches are also hoping that the players on the politics can put in a bit more of a performance. It’s been a bit of a scrappy affair so far...!

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Post by lostinwales on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:31 am

Marler giving a stare to Curry after Curry pulls him away from the Argentinian front row. Then there is a big grin...

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Post by kingelderfield on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:32 am

Our tactics are rubbish

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Post by Scottrf on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:33 am

Bonus point, no tries conceded. How rubbish can they be?

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Post by Soul Requiem on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:34 am

kingelderfield wrote:Our tactics are rubbish

220 minutes of rugby played and one try conceded, hmmm rubbish.

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Post by lostinwales on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:35 am

[quote="Scottrf"]Bonus point, no tries conceded. How rubbish can they be?[/quote

Yeah its a good performance. Very controlled.

When the chance is there we really go for it - rest of the time it's all containment.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:35 am

Its not going to scare the All blacks...but its been a solid unspectacular job done.

Holefully with limited energy wasted.

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Post by lostinwales on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:43 am

Closest Argentina have got to scoring a try was the 5m scrum early on. Our defense has been very good

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:44 am

I hate to echo tighthead but theres some great acting out there from some argentinians.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:44 am

Forgods sake....Lawes didnt touch him!!!


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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:47 am

Jacks back woohoo

Get daly off and put Watson or Jack at full back

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Post by Soul Requiem on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:47 am

Nonsense of a penalty that, he barely touched him and as such was fully in control.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:48 am

Nope...Daly stays on.

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Post by tigertattie on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:50 am

That was a beautiful move
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Post by kingelderfield on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:50 am

Keep kicking it to them.........and see what happens

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Post by alfie on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:51 am

Scottrf wrote:Bonus point, no tries conceded. How rubbish can they be?

Blaming you for that Smile

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:51 am

Think there was a forward pass missed in that passage!!

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Post by kingelderfield on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:51 am

Good running rugby try. Maybe we could do that?

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Post by Heaf on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:52 am

Nicely worked - although the 2nd to last pass looked forwards ...

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:52 am

Nicely worked try for Argentina.

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Post by ebop on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:53 am

England are a bit like SA. Good defence but boring as fook on attack. Well done Argentina showing a bit of flair with that try.
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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:53 am

Maybe we are lulling france in to a false sense of security

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Post by EnglishReign on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:54 am

Have the players been told to get a BP and sit on it in every game? We haven't played much great rugby in this WC so far but haven't needed to either.

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Post by Heaf on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:54 am

Can't help thinking we're kicking too much away now ...

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Post by Soul Requiem on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:54 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:Think there was a forward pass missed in that passage!!

Pass to 11 was clearly forward.

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:55 am

Jack's back. great try for Noiwel. That is what we like too see.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:55 am

Jack is back.


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Post by Heaf on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:56 am

Soul Requiem wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Think there was a forward pass missed in that passage!!

Pass to 11 was clearly forward.

Yep - Nige should have checked as I said in live play it looked forwards and the replay seemed to confirm ...

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Post by EnglishReign on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:56 am

Trademark Nowell physicality and pace.

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Post by alfie on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:56 am

Nicely done by Nowell clap

Makes it look a bit better ; but I'm not over impressed by this effort. Hopefully just keeping their powder dry for France , but they'll need to step up in the QF.


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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:59 am

Question...

Opinions on Daly...and would he be in your starting lineup?

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Post by lostinwales on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 11:00 am

Expectations.

We have beaten Argentina 5 tries to 1 (so far), looked in total control almost all game, taken the chances that have come up.

It's not been 'champagne rugby'. Hasn't needed to be.

Not the least worried about France

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Post by Cyril on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 11:00 am

Decent win. Powder dry for France and onwards.

Good to see Argentina going home. Impossible side to like with all their dirty play, diving and Creevy’s crass comments. Disgrace to rugby.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 11:01 am

Great game by England clap

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 11:02 am

Argies losing their heads now.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 11:02 am

Good win. Didn’t need to get out of second gear and looking in good shape for the knockout stages. Glad to see Argies knocked out.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 11:03 am

Good win, well done England

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat 05 Oct 2019, 11:03 am

Nice win for England. 3 from 3 full bonus points in each game, looking good so far so good.

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