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Post by miaow on Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:29 pm

First topic message reminder :

Thought I'd get these made nice and early for a few reasons - but one being that we're already now looking ahead to the QFs with several teams having finished their group stage, so it's all heating up for the proper knockout stuff...barring any more disruption.

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Team: Daly; Watson, Slade, Tuilagi, May; Farrell (capt), Youngs; M Vunipola, George, Sinckler; Itoje, Lawes; Curry, Underhill, B Vunipola.

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Marler, Cole, Kruis, Ludlam, Heinz, Ford, Joseph.


Australia

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Team: Beale; Hodge, Petaia, Kerevi, Koroibete; Lealiifano, Genia; Alaalatoa, Latu, Sio; Arnold, Rodda; Naisarani, Hooper (c), Pocock.

Replacements: Uelese, Slipper, Tupou, Coleman, Salakaia-Loto, White, To'omua, O'Connor.



Venue: Oita
Referee: Jerome Garces
AR1: Romain Poite
AR2: Mathieu Raynal
TMO: Ben Skeen


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Post by eirebilly on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:17 am

Excellent performance and win by England, top drawer.

England firmly favourites for the RWC in my eyes, very few weakness' in their team.

Enjoy England fans thumbsup
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Post by MightyQuin on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:18 am

Give me the Aussies over 14 Argentinians any day. What a win!

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Post by Old Man on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:18 am

TightHEAD wrote:Nice to prove the doubters wrong.

That was easy.

Not sure it was “easy” the scoreboard shows a comfortable win, the Aussies put plenty of pressure with ball in hand, their coach just had no clue how to manage risk.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:18 am

Australia are a bit like Scotland, a bit all over the place and over reliant on running and trying to score from everywhere. They need to mix it up a bit more.

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Post by Heaf on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:20 am

England's defence on the try-line was also excellent ...

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Post by No9 on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:21 am

Well done England.... extra weeks rest helped, not sure you would have been so in control if you had to play the same number of games as the rest of us. Whistle

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Post by stub on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:22 am

Enjoyed some of the tackles as much as the tries. Great defence.

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Post by alfie on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:23 am

Old Man wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:Nice to prove the doubters wrong.

That was easy.

Not sure it was “easy” the scoreboard shows a comfortable win, the Aussies put plenty of pressure with ball in hand, their coach just had no clue how to manage risk.

Ended up easy but there were moments... That huge defensive push when the Aussies had about nine phases within five yards of the line midway through the second half was a massive moment. (I think England would likely have won even if the Aussies had scored then ; but it might have been a bit nervy for a few minutes !)

Think Eddie should be happy with that OK

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Post by No9 on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:25 am

No9 wrote:Well done England.... extra weeks rest helped, not sure you would have been so in control if you had to play the same number of games as the rest of us. Whistle


....ah come on, red flag it... thought the Whistle showed it was tongue in cheek and only a bit of banter...


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Post by No name Bertie on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:25 am

Jonny May is an injury doubt for the semi-final (hamstring?).  How much of a blow would that be for England if May missed the semi-final?

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Post by SecretFly on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:26 am

Beale, Beale, Beale. Sometimes he plays like he believes he has a cloaking device and nobody will see him. It's too late now of course, but Beale, they see you.

Anyway, Australia can begin their recovery now with a new coach that might help some pretty good players with the inclusion of a strategic kicking game.

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Post by stub on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:26 am

Yes, the Aussies pushed hard at times but England managed those passages well.

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Post by BamBam on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:27 am

No name Bertie wrote:Jonny May is an injury doubt for the semi-final (hamstring?).  How much of a blow would that be for England if May missed the semi-final?
Where are you seeing that?

Nowell is lacking match time too so that's a big problem

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Post by Duty281 on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:27 am

Agree with Eddie Jones that England haven’t shown their best yet.

It was good today, not great, but England are in excellent condition to make it a ‘great’ one next Saturday.

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Post by stub on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:27 am

Jonny May would be a big loss IMO.

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Post by LondonTiger on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:28 am

stub wrote:Enjoyed some of the tackles as much as the tries. Great defence.

We looked a lot like Saracens. Massive defence, great kicking and clinically accumulated points. (Oh and some cynical penalties to conced 3 pts rather than 7)

Aussies ran themselves into the ground.

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Post by lostinwales on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:29 am

No9 wrote:Well done England.... extra weeks rest helped, not sure you would have been so in control if you had to play the same number of games as the rest of us. Whistle

No we were undercooked.

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Post by alfie on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:29 am

No name Bertie wrote:Jonny May is an injury doubt for the semi-final (hamstring?).  How much of a blow would that be for England if May missed the semi-final?

Would be a huge blow. Hopefully he can make a fast recovery...don't think they can cover him without losing something. Tackling the ABs (I'm assuming Smile ) they need the A team....

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Post by MightyQuin on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:29 am

Haven’t seen anything about May but he seemed alright at the end?

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Post by stub on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:30 am

Yes, completely agree Tiger, it was Saracensesque!

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Post by stub on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:31 am

Just said on the tv that there are no injuries....

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Post by No name Bertie on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:32 am

From the BBC live reporting

10:14 Injury to Jonny May?

ugo monye ( ✔  @ugomonye): A complete performance from England but didn’t like the way Jonny May pulled up trying to cover back then... ice on his hamstring #ENGvAUS #RWC2019 10:06 - 19 Oct 2019

Jonny May will be the headline on the medical bulletin. The England wing looked to twinge something in the final play...


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Post by stub on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:33 am

Hmmm, I hope just precautionary.

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Post by BamBam on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:34 am

Apparently we finished with 14 and May went off?!

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:35 am

That is a blow. May is class. Nowell if hes fit. Would be a huge ask for cokanasiga but hes not a guy who seems short on confidence.

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Post by MightyQuin on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:36 am

Hope he’s fit, our best team will push Ire/NZ all the way.

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Post by BamBam on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:39 am

Would hope for Nowell. Cokanasiga vs the NZ back 3 would be a concern defensively, but think he would be ok against Ireland

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Post by Taylorman on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:42 am

MightyQuin wrote:Hope he’s fit, our best team will push Ire/NZ all the way.

True, that was impressive, have said for a while now it’s England to beat.

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:43 am

Some one help me out here please.

Who do England play in the semi final? Is it the winner of New Zealand v Ireland?

Or is it the winner of Wales v France?

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Post by sensisball on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:43 am

Well played England although Australia handed them 2 tries on a plate. Australia played really well for the first 13 minutes and then reverted to type with too many individual errors. Haylett-Petty would have been the better choice when England were always going to kick well to the Aussie fullback.

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Post by sensisball on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:44 am

England play the winners of Ireland New Zealand game

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:46 am

Thank's sensisball

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Post by yappysnap on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:47 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:I think if England are genuine contenders they need to tighten the screw now and finish this convincingly

Happy?? Very Happy

Good game from England. Total control after that early 2nd half try.

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Post by kingelderfield on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:56 am

Thought Watson had a great game. Not so much Daly who doesn't look comfortable at fb.
Would be happy with, Nowell, Watson, Cokanasiga back 3 or Daly onwing fir Cokanasiga.
Assumming May is injured ofcourse.
Obviously the forwards win or atleast offer the chance win matches.

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Post by MightyQuin on Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:59 am

There’s been nothing else reported about May, so I’m hoping it’s a precautionary thing for a minor twinge rather than full on tear. Nowell would be a capable replacement though.

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Post by boomeranga on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:07 am

Congratulations English fellas. Good team. Good win. Our blokes tried hard I thought but qtrs about right for us this time around.

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Post by MightyQuin on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:11 am

Tough luck boomeranga, we kinda owed you one! You’ll be back strong next time, I’m sure.

Just seen from EJ that May ‘should be fine’. Was just a twinge.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:13 am

yappysnap wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:I think if England are genuine contenders they need to tighten the screw now and finish this convincingly

Happy?? Very Happy

Good game from England. Total control after that early 2nd half try.

Actually yes. I cant be unhappy. We generally dealt with their all running game quite well and put the screw in at the end with ford.

Be intersting to see how Nz ireland goes now

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Post by Soul Requiem on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:14 am

Great result and very professional performance, Tom Curry astounds me every time he plays, how can you be that at 21?

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Post by No name Bertie on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:15 am

valenciasportsmedicine wrote:Grade 1 Hamstring Injury Recovery Time: The lightest injury, usually only a muscle pull or strain. Recovery typically only takes a few days.
Grade 2 Hamstring Injury Recovery Time: This grade includes partial muscle tears. You’ll likely need to take a couple of weeks off from training while it recovers.
Grade 3 Hamstring Injury Recovery Time: A complete muscle tear. This is the most severe degree of hamstring injuries and usually requires several months to heal.
Assuming this is a grade 1 injury the prognosis is a "few days" to recover. Given the semi-final is in 7 days time there isn't much margin for error.


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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:16 am

Curry could be a superstar if he continues on the same path.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:18 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:Curry could be a superstar if he continues on the same path.

I know im like a broken down record player..but the talent coming through in the back row is scary....

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Post by lostinwales on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:22 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Curry could be a superstar if he continues on the same path.

I know im like a broken down record player..but the talent coming through in the back row is scary....

Yes, but are any of the new guys remotely as complete a player as Curry is right now? He does everything and looks better every game, especially now hes filled out a bit more.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:24 am

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Post by BamBam on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:24 am

Hoping May injury is misdiagnosed cramp rather than a hammy

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Post by MightyQuin on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:26 am

Jones reckons he’ll be fine. No dramas, full squad for the semis.

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Post by lostinwales on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:29 am

Stats make fun reading. Australia had 64% possession and 62% territory

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:31 am

That's where it gets misleading. Every time england got the ball in the aus 22 we were facing a kick off in the next couple or mins!

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:40 am

lostinwales wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Curry could be a superstar if he continues on the same path.

I know im like a broken down record player..but the talent coming through in the back row is scary....

Yes, but are any of the new guys remotely as complete a player as Curry is right now? He does everything and looks better every game, especially now hes filled out a bit more.

His twin is pretty damn good. But your right at rhe moment he is supreme. Ine of the best in the world ...simple as that.

And yes Willis is an interesting one. He will be one to watch this season.

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Post by Poorfour on Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:43 am

lostinwales wrote:
No9 wrote:Well done England.... extra weeks rest helped, not sure you would have been so in control if you had to play the same number of games as the rest of us. :whistle:

No we were undercooked.

I prefer to say "best served rare".
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