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Post by miaow on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 6:33 pm

First topic message reminder :

Thought I'd get these made nice and early for a few reasons - but one being that we're already now looking ahead to the QFs with several teams having finished their group stage, so it's all heating up for the proper knockout stuff...barring any more disruption.

Wales

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Team:Liam Williams; George North, Jonathan Davies, Hadleigh Parkes, Josh Adams; Dan Biggar, Gareth Davies; Wyn Jones, Ken Owens, Tomas Francis; Jake Ball, Alun Wyn Jones; Aaron Wainwright, Justin Tipuric, Josh Navidi.


Reps: Elliot Dee, Rhys Carre, Dillon Lewis, Adam Beard, Ross Moriarty, Tomos Williams, Rhys Patchell, Owen Watkin


France

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Team: Medard - Penaud, Vakatawa, Fickou, Huget - Ntamack, Du pont - Ollivon , Alldrit, Lauret -
Vaahamahina, Leroux - Slimani, Guirado (c), Poirot
Bench: Cat, Braille,Sentiano, Gabrillagues, Picamoles, Serin, Lopez, Rattez



Venue: Oita
Referee: Jaco Peyper
AR1: Nic Berry
AR2: Paul Williams
TMO: Marius Joncker


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Post by Collapse2005 on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 10:28 am

Barney McGrew did it wrote:If there was anything controversial about the RC maybe the photo would be unwise. But since Vahaamahina let his team, his country and rugby down in the most blatant and brainless way, he deserves every bit of ridicule he gets. Pretty sure most French would see it that way too – they were on their way to a SF. His retirement has significantly raised the average IQ of the professional rugby player.

Nah, cant say I agree. Yep the red card was fully deserved and silly but the ref totally dropped the ball here. You dont go around mocking players you have carded after the game. Thats equally stupid.

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Post by Noble-Surfer on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 10:33 am

tigertattie wrote:    
Fishpaste wrote:
   I don't see what the problem is with the photo...

   That particular red card was the least controversial card possible...and so the ref joked about it afterwards (so not evidence of prior bias)...so what.


Its the joking about it afterwards that has some up in arms. You can see why though. An official is having a laugh at a moment of madness that arguably denied France a World Cup semi final. You could also argue that "joking" about the elbow makes light of a thuggish bit of play that World Rugby are taking as a serious matter and trying to stamp out the old thuggish ways.


Hopefully those arms aren't too near anyone's head... ;)

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Post by mikey_dragon on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 11:10 am

I'm not upset by the photo, like I wasn't upset by the whole Folau meme thing. That said, Peyper is a ref and should also abide by a code of conduct. You're potentially breaching it by mocking a player that you had just sent off. Let the fans do it, they're not under any obligation to not do it. Slap on the wrists for Peyper and forget about it. He isn't the worst ref at the world cup btw, he isn't French.

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Post by Scottrf on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 11:12 am

mikey_dragon wrote:I'm not upset by the photo, like I wasn't upset by the whole Folau meme thing. That said, Peyper is a ref and should also abide by a code of conduct. You're potentially breaching it by mocking a player that you had just sent off. Let the fans do it, they're not under any obligation to not do it. Slap on the wrists for Peyper and forget about it. He isn't the worst ref at the world cup btw, he isn't French.

More xenophobia, really...

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 11:17 am

If Alain Rolland had been photographed laughing with French fans and simulating a tip tackle after the semi final in 2011, I doubt Welsh fans would see the funny side.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 11:22 am

Scottrf wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:I'm not upset by the photo, like I wasn't upset by the whole Folau meme thing. That said, Peyper is a ref and should also abide by a code of conduct. You're potentially breaching it by mocking a player that you had just sent off. Let the fans do it, they're not under any obligation to not do it. Slap on the wrists for Peyper and forget about it. He isn't the worst ref at the world cup btw, he isn't French.

More xenophobia, really...

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Post by maestegmafia on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 11:40 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:If Alain Rolland had been photographed laughing with French fans and simulating a tip tackle after the semi final in 2011, I doubt Welsh fans would see the funny side.

No and I think we can understand the implications of this photo, but it has no effect on either the game played or the games coming up

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 11:52 am

I can understand why World Rugby have taken him out of the picture (excuse the pun). He really should have known what their reaction would be.

It was a red card all day long, but that doesn't change how bad this looks.

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Post by tigertattie on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 12:19 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:
Barney McGrew did it wrote:If there was anything controversial about the RC maybe the photo would be unwise. But since Vahaamahina let his team, his country and rugby down in the most blatant and brainless way, he deserves every bit of ridicule he gets. Pretty sure most French would see it that way too – they were on their way to a SF. His retirement has significantly raised the average IQ of the professional rugby player.

Nah, cant say I agree. Yep the red card was fully deserved and silly but the ref totally dropped the ball here. You dont go around mocking players you have carded after the game. Thats equally stupid.

TMO has had a look and judged that it did go forward so back we come!

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Post by Old Man on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 12:21 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I can understand why World Rugby have taken him out of the picture (excuse the pun). He really should have known what their reaction would be.

It was a red card all day long, but that doesn't change how bad this looks.

Agreed, Referees should be held to a high standard of public behaviour, his actions could be construed as bias, doubt any French team would want him as a referee after that photo.

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Post by miaow on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 2:27 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
Pie wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Wales v South Africa – Referee: Jerome Garces. Assist: Wayne Barnes & Ben O’Keefe. TMO: Ben Skeen

My gosh, glad we are in the other one Very Happy

Until you lose and then no doubt those refs will all be motherless

I am rather confuzzled. You seem to be suggesting, over a number of threads, that both England AND New Zealand will lose.

I mean, morally, they both will, of course. Moral victories are only awarded to the Welsh, and sometimes Fji. So in some ways they both already have lost...

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Post by miaow on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 2:30 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Still think there is nothing wrong with photos like this, they are not robots they are rugby fans too.

Agree, nothing wrong with it, but don't do it during the RWC - and don't capture it on film/camera. Stupid, he must know it's going to be shared and go viral almost instantly, so he's either hanging up the whistle and doesn't care, or has just had a really brainless moment. People would be more accepting if it were 6 months+ after the game at an after dinner function or something. I don't know. I don't see the problem either, really - it wouldn't be like Rolland joking about the Warburton card, this was as clear as day and deliberate foul play. Just the way of the world now, everyone has to have the personality of a 55 year old accountant (... Whistle ) when in the public eye.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Tue 22 Oct 2019, 3:46 pm

On the red card: I'd gone upstairs to the toilet a couple of minutes before the incident, and as I was washing my hands I could hear the commentator saying 'there was a red card in 2011, it looks like there'll be another' - and I thought to myself, 'well that'll be Moriarty getting a second yellow, or even a straight red'. So I was rather pleased to find out I was wrong!

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Post by Pie on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 3:37 am

Taylorman wrote:
Pie wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Wales v South Africa – Referee: Jerome Garces. Assist: Wayne Barnes & Ben O’Keefe. TMO: Ben Skeen

My gosh, glad we are in the other one Very Happy

Until you lose and then no doubt those refs will all be motherless

Let's be clear here pie. You're advocating violence against women on this forum now are you?

You really are a prize idiot.

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Post by Taylorman on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 3:50 am

Pie wrote:
Taylorman wrote:
Pie wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Wales v South Africa – Referee: Jerome Garces. Assist: Wayne Barnes & Ben O’Keefe. TMO: Ben Skeen

My gosh, glad we are in the other one Very Happy

Until you lose and then no doubt those refs will all be motherless

Let's be clear here pie. You're advocating violence against women on this forum now are you?

You really are a prize idiot.

Good luck Wales, you'll need it with supporters like this. Laugh

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Post by Pie on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 4:24 am

Taylorman wrote:
Pie wrote:
Taylorman wrote:
Pie wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Wales v South Africa – Referee: Jerome Garces. Assist: Wayne Barnes & Ben O’Keefe. TMO: Ben Skeen

My gosh, glad we are in the other one Very Happy

Until you lose and then no doubt those refs will all be motherless

Let's be clear here pie. You're advocating violence against women on this forum now are you?

You really are a prize idiot.

Good luck Wales, you'll need it with supporters like this. Laugh  

If you win dont forget to share the trophy seeing as you didnt play all the games and therefore didnt really contest on a level playing field


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Post by Taylorman on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 4:26 am

Yep no worries, you can have a piece, pie. Doh Done it again...

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Post by Pie on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 4:59 am

Taylorman wrote:Yep no worries, you can have a piece, pie. Doh  Done it again...

You have an idiot's sense of humor too.....pretty sure, with your form, you'll choke on the rest laughing Doh

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Post by Pie on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 6:06 am

You all choked up Taylorman ? Yahoo laughing

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Post by Breadvan on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 10:25 am

What a year for Wales playing France lol. Two games handed to Wales on a silver platter by French idiocy. If only France added structure and discipline to their game they might become a consistent outfit one day. Medards kick out dead with 5 mins to go a prime example.
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Post by Pie on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 6:05 pm

Breadvan wrote:What a year for Wales playing France lol. Two games handed to Wales on a silver platter by French idiocy. If only France added structure and discipline to their game they might become a consistent outfit one day. Medards kick out dead with 5 mins to go a prime example.  

I give you Sean Edwards

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Post by Taylorman on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 6:12 pm

Breadvan wrote:What a year for Wales playing France lol. Two games handed to Wales on a silver platter by French idiocy. If only France added structure and discipline to their game they might become a consistent outfit one day. Medards kick out dead with 5 mins to go a prime example.  

Yeah, Wales have had their free ticket. Time to stand up for themselves and play rugby.

There’s are reason three winners of this event are sitting there in the top four and won their quarter finals by 20, and Wales didn’t.

Welcome to the big time Wales! Let’s see what you’ve got. thumbsup

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Post by maestegmafia on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 6:16 pm

Taylorman wrote:
Breadvan wrote:What a year for Wales playing France lol. Two games handed to Wales on a silver platter by French idiocy. If only France added structure and discipline to their game they might become a consistent outfit one day. Medards kick out dead with 5 mins to go a prime example.  

Yeah, Wales have had their free ticket. Time to stand up for themselves and play rugby.

There’s are reason three winners of this event are sitting there in the top four and won their quarter finals by 20, and Wales didn’t.

Welcome to the big time Wales! Let’s see what you’ve got. thumbsup

The bigger the underdogs we are the better Taylorman

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Post by Pie on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 6:19 pm

Taylorman wrote:
Breadvan wrote:What a year for Wales playing France lol. Two games handed to Wales on a silver platter by French idiocy. If only France added structure and discipline to their game they might become a consistent outfit one day. Medards kick out dead with 5 mins to go a prime example.  

Yeah, Wales have had their free ticket. Time to stand up for themselves and play rugby.

There’s are reason three winners of this event are sitting there in the top four and won their quarter finals by 20, and Wales didn’t.

Welcome to the big time Wales! Let’s see what you’ve got. thumbsup

Yes its because we played an extra game while you lot were, ahem, 'shearing' sheep in your comfy hotel room. Fan + keyboard Doh

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Post by Taylorman on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 7:30 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
Taylorman wrote:
Breadvan wrote:What a year for Wales playing France lol. Two games handed to Wales on a silver platter by French idiocy. If only France added structure and discipline to their game they might become a consistent outfit one day. Medards kick out dead with 5 mins to go a prime example.  

Yeah, Wales have had their free ticket. Time to stand up for themselves and play rugby.

There’s are reason three winners of this event are sitting there in the top four and won their quarter finals by 20, and Wales didn’t.

Welcome to the big time Wales! Let’s see what you’ve got. thumbsup

The bigger the underdogs we are the better Taylorman

Yep, there is that thumbsup

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Post by Taylorman on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 7:37 pm

Pie, the point of being able to foe someone is so you don’t have to engage with them. I am sticking to rugby comments and am not being personal towards anyone, where if I was, I have stopped, where you are obviously following me around like a little dog making personal, childish comments.

I get the team you support is struggling to stay above water but I can’t help you with your issues in dealing with that. So take a cue, get off my case and start posting about rugby.

I believe your team will be out this weekend, just my opinion, so you’d best make the most of it, by posting reasonable, rugby related comments.

And Ill do the same.

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Post by LondonTiger on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 7:51 pm

Taylorman please make reports rather than posts complaining about behaviour. We do read them eventually. It does not help your case when you then have a dig within the public complaint.

Pie there have been a number of personal comments and insults from you in the last 24 hours, contravening rules 1 & 3

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Post by Taylorman on Wed 23 Oct 2019, 7:55 pm

Will do.

Back to the rugby.

Cheers. thumbsup

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