Pool D - Match Thread - Wales v Uruguay - 13/10/19 - K/O 9:15 GMT+1

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Wales



Pool: 1st, 14pts. 3-0-0.

Team:

15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 Josh Adams, 13 Owen Watkin, 12 Hadleigh Parkes, 11 Hallam Amos, 10 Rhys Patchell, 9 Aled Davies, 8 Aaron Wainwright, 7 Justin Tipuric (c), 6 Aaron Shingler, 5 Adam Beard, 4 Bradley Davies, 3 Dillon Lewis, 2 Ryan Elias, 1 Nicky Smith

Replacements: 16 Elliot Dee, 17 Rhys Carre, 18 Wyn Jones, 19 Jake Ball, 20 Ross Moriarty, 21 James Davies, 22 Tomos Williams, 23 Gareth Davies

Uruguay



Pool: 5th, 4pts. 1-0-2.

Team: Mieres; Leivas, Cat, Vilaseca, Freitas; Berchesi, Arata; Sanguinetti, Kessler, Arbelo, Dotti, Leindekar, Gaminara (capt), Civetta, Nieto.

Replacements: Pujadas, Echeverria, Rombys, Magno, Diana, Ormaechea, Inciarte, Silva.



Venue: Kunamoto
Referees: Ref - Angus Gardner (Australia); AR - Luke Pearce, Karl Dickson (England); TMO - Rowan Kitt (England)

[mikey_dragon]

Amos the idiot, the ref even told him that he took it back in.

[Guest]

Speaking of the trainee doctor....that was terrible play!

[RiscaGame]

Shocking.

[Old Man]

Kudos to Uruguay for hanging in there

[lostinwales]

Why do they always go on about Hallam Amos training to be a doctor so much? It was the same with Jamie Roberts previously. I’m sure lots of players are doing degrees on the side! If someone was training to be an engineer why not mention that too?! All you hear is Dr this, medic that!

Because the idiots rate doctors but think all engineers do is fix engines

[majesticimperialman]

Wales not looking too good at the moment, Uruguay closing them down every time.

[mikey_dragon]

Control starts at halfback. If you don’t have it then the team doesn’t have it. It’s painful to watch Aled Davies jogging around and put in his laboured passes, when he’s not making a dire attempt at a clearout.

[majesticimperialman]

Wales giving away penalties like confetti, might see a yellow card for Wales yet,

[eirebilly]

This is as poor as I have seen Wales play in a long time. Poor handling and composure.

I still expect them to win but they are making hard work of it.

[Guest]

This has the feel of many of those 4th AI games where Wales heavily rotate and struggle with the new combinations. Really poor stuff from Wales. 7-6 at half time? Poor.

[LondonTiger]

Control starts at halfback. If you don’t have it then the team doesn’t have it. It’s painful to watch Aled Davies jogging around and put in his laboured passes, when he’s not making a dire attempt at a clearout.

Wainwright is struggling to control the ball at scrums, the pack are not giving clean ruck ball, Davies does look poor, Patchell looks nervous and offering little, Parkes looks to be carrying a knock. 

Then add in that many of the Wales team have barely played in 6 months and Uruguay are permanently offside and it is no wonder Wales are struggling atm.

[Guest]

Moriarty having a scuffle in the tunnel! Highlight of the game so far!

[mikey_dragon]

Lol Parkes fed up with Aled so he just kicks the ball out.

[EnglishReign]

Bit of a HT scuffle in the tunnel!

[BigGee]

You have just got to take your hat off to Uruguay for the way they are playing this game and it puts to bed any talk that the WC should just be played between the top team.

This tournament was their chance to show what they can do and boy have they taken it. Some really good players in that team, who in other circumstances would likely be playing professional rugby.

[majesticimperialman]

mikey-dragon said the other day that Wales could make 23 changes and still beat Uruguay.

Well at the moment Wales do not look like they can beat Uruguay at all.

Am expecting Wales to cut lose in the second half, but they are making too many errors at the moment.

[Guest]

Are Uruguay really playing well though? For me it’s just dire Wales play.

[Guest]

Dear Lord did anyone see the girl in the crowd during the Welsh anthem? Didn't know they made them like that over the Severn 

You absolute beast.

In all fairness, I would say Welsh girls are better looking than most other places in Wales. Your posh English ones down south look all horsey, the ones up north are a bit rough, and then you've got rugged bumpkins everywhere else.

Anyway, bit of a sh1t game, isn't it. Started well, but a classic case of everyone wanting to score tries like Gerald Davies and not working out that they're going to have to hurt themselves a bit early doors. Shingler doing ok, Tipuric standing out, Patchell showing he needs to concentrate to be a top class test player otherwise he's a liability. At the moment it's pretty clear they look like a team that's done f all training and prep together for this game, no tactical stuff etc. Should still be better though. Expect a rocket and then a second wave from the bench. Easy bonus point win in 60 minutes is what I'm sticking to.

[Old Man]

mikey-dragon said the other day that Wales could make 23 changes and still beat Uruguay.

Well at the moment Wales do not look like they can beat Uruguay at all.

Am expecting Wales to cut lose in the second half, but they are making too many errors at the moment.

These typeof matches can often become a bit of a nightmare.

You know you can beat them, but the you forget the basics, then errors start creeping in, then decision making goes out the window and then finally you lose your rythm.

But I am sure Gatland is laying down the law now, keep to your structures, earn the right to go wide, respect the opponent, keep toyour tactics, calm down, play the game

[BigGee]

Are Uruguay really playing well though? For me it’s just dire Wales play.

Oh I think they are playing well. They are a bunch of amateurs, they just said the prop is a taxi driver in Montevideo!

They are fit, they are playing as a team and with no lack of skill either and they all look prepared to die for the jersey.

This match is a massive miss match but Uruguay don't seem to have read the script.

Wales will still win and probably with a BP, but you can't take away from Uruguay being in the game at half time.

[Old Man]

Are Uruguay really playing well though? For me it’s just dire Wales play.

Oh I think they are playing well. They are a bunch of amateurs, they just said the prop is a taxi driver in Montevideo!

They are fit, they are playing as a team and with no lack of skill either and they all look prepared to die for the jersey.

This match is a massive miss match but Uruguay don't seem to have read the script.

Wales will still win and probably with a BP, but you can't take away from Uruguay being in the game at half time.

They gave it their all first half, but as amateurs it is tough to do it for 80 against a tier one team, the intensity and pace will tell after 60 minutes.

[RiscaGame]

mikey-dragon said the other day that Wales could make 23 changes and still beat Uruguay.

Well at the moment Wales do not look like they can beat Uruguay at all.

Am expecting Wales to cut lose in the second half, but they are making too many errors at the moment.

Are Wales winning? So they probably do look like they can win. For all this Uruguayan "brilliance", it has been a defensive effort only. Pure damage limitation.

[Guest]

Wales have been thoroughly underwhelming

[mikey_dragon]

mikey-dragon said the other day that Wales could make 23 changes and still beat Uruguay.

Well at the moment Wales do not look like they can beat Uruguay at all.

Am expecting Wales to cut lose in the second half, but they are making too many errors at the moment.

Not sure why the mods keep putting up with your silly commentary all the time. Wales clearly still look like they can beat Uruguay. Bit of a contradiction there if you think Wales can cut ‘loose’.

[eirebilly]

Are Uruguay really playing well though? For me it’s just dire Wales play.

Its an odd one. Wales are creating space but are continuously let down by handling errors.

Welsh 9 is very pedestrian.

Parkes being deployed like Jamie Roberts MarkII

Uruguay defending well but really should have been a man down after the first Wales try due to several (about 7?) consecutive penalties in a row in the red zone. They were on a final warning prior to the try and committed a penalty offence in the lead up. I still think YC's should be shown where deserved regardless if the opposition score a try.

[Guest]

Agree that wales are going for the miracle stuff. We’re throwing big miss passes instead of drawing the man and putting it through the hands. Basics, boys. Basics.

[Guest]

You have just got to take your hat off to Uruguay for the way they are playing this game and it puts to bed any talk that the WC should just be played between the top team.

This tournament was their chance to show what they can do and boy have they taken it. Some really good players in that team, who in other circumstances would likely be playing professional rugby.

They're plucky for sure, and in terms of tactics, they're probably my favourite team of the tournament so far. Not too much talent per se, but some real fight and understanding of the basics - which isn't always the case with the Welsh, sadly. Uruguay remind me of Argentina of 10 years ago - in fact, they also remind me of their football team, another team I warmed to (side note - anyone remember the cringe pundit/media chat at the 2010 WC in the Ghana v Uruguay game? Too obscure? Nevermind...).

Wales should go on and thump them now - you'd hope so anyway. Players like Bradley Davies etc. are putting in their own minutes of the tournament, worth leaving it all out there.

Ryan Elias playing well as well. Showing his worth. Adams doing decently on the ball. Just literally no connection and understanding as a team really, across the board. No understanding of how to build pressure, that you can't just fling it wide wide without also running hard and straight. All you have to do here is hold the ball, get running options on the gainline, and 3-4 phases later there will be gaps in the midfield to use the hands to get between. Real basic rugby.

[Guest]

Wainwright should get an automatic yellow and for that ‘tache.

[LondonTiger]

Are Uruguay really playing well though? For me it’s just dire Wales play.

Oh I think they are playing well. They are a bunch of amateurs, they just said the prop is a taxi driver in Montevideo!

They are fit, they are playing as a team and with no lack of skill either and they all look prepared to die for the jersey.

This match is a massive miss match but Uruguay don't seem to have read the script.

Wales will still win and probably with a BP, but you can't take away from Uruguay being in the game at half time.

Uruguay are fighting like mad to deny Wales space, being aided by the ref. However looking beyond their fired up defence, they look to have the skills of a mid-table English Championship side. Uruguay look determined to work together to repel Wales. Wales look scared of getting an injury and are trying too hard to impress individually.

[Rugby Fan]

...They were on a final warning prior to the try and committed a penalty offence in the lead up. I still think YC's should be shown where deserved regardless if the opposition score a try.

Agree. So many referees bottle that decision, though. A smart team would take advantage of that tendency, and contrive to allow a score, preferably out wide, rather than keep them out, and go a man down.

[mikey_dragon]

Quick call there, this Aussie ref doesn’t like Wales...

[Guest]

Why do they always go on about Hallam Amos training to be a doctor so much? It was the same with Jamie Roberts previously. I’m sure lots of players are doing degrees on the side! If someone was training to be an engineer why not mention that too?! All you hear is Dr this, medic that!

If you're a Dr of medicine you're very definitely 'a doctor'. It's also an old school job people can relate to/understand in the big, weird world of newspeak job titles and bogus qualifications. Degrees in other areas are a bit ambiguous - an engineer could be any number of things. If Ken Owens was a policeman, for instance, he'd literally always be called the Sheriff. Just a recognisable job - and also it jars a bit with the idea of rugby as this sport for big hulking idiots. Maybe also harks back to JPR as well - Wales are trying to play like its still the 70s in all fairness, so commentators can be forgiven.

[mikey_dragon]

Oh well looks like Wales have lost interest now, makes picking the team for QF easier.

[EnglishReign]

Wales clearly throwing the game for an easier route, it's a disgrace

[RiscaGame]

Still no yellow.

[RiscaGame]

Wonder if Wales look like they'll win yet?

[RiscaGame]

I would personally have had Patchell kicking today, in case Biggar isn't fit next week.

[Guest]

Get Gareth Davies on! He’ll score a few!

[mikey_dragon]

This is what you’re in for on match day. I’ll admit, I’m a fan too. 

[LondonTiger]

I would personally have had Patchell kicking today, in case Biggar isn't fit next week.

Agreed.

[majesticimperialman]

If i was a Wales fan and had paid money to watch this game i would be very disspointed right now.

[mikey_dragon]

Shocking pass from Parkes. Uruguay need a yellow now.

[Guest]

Another forward pass. Absolutely terrible play from Wales.

[mikey_dragon]

If i was a Wales fan and had paid money to watch this game i would be very disspointed right now.

Not good posting, MD

[RiscaGame]

Poor from Parkes.

Don't bother warning them again Angus. It's not as if you'll follow through on your warnings.

[mikey_dragon]

Drop by Parkes but it was another Poopie pass to be fair.

[Guest]

Parkes not having a good game.

[mikey_dragon]

Aled’s gone, our prayers were answered.

[Guest]

Yay, Aled off. Should score a few more now.

[RiscaGame]

Huzzah

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