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Post by miaow on Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:08 pm

First topic message reminder :

Because everyone else is getting a bit excited and the first thread is going to spill over during the match.

ENGLAND

Team:Daly; Watson, Tuilagi, Farrell (capt), May; Ford, Youngs; M Vunipola, George, Sinckler, Itoje, Lawes, Curry, Underhill, B Vunipola.

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Marler, Cole, Kruis, Wilson, Heinz, Slade, Joseph.

NEW ZEALAND

Team: Beauden Barrett; Sevu Reece, Jack Goodhue, Anton Lienert-Brown, George Bridge; Richie Mo'unga, Aaron Smith; Joe Moody, Codie Taylor, Nepo Laulala, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Ardie Savea, Kieran Read (capt).

Replacements: Dane Coles, Ofa Tuungafasi, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Cane, TJ Perenara, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett.



Venue: Yokohama
Referee: Nigel Owens
AR1: Romain Poite
AR2: Pascal Gauzere
TMO: Marius Joncker

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Post by nathan on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:50 pm

Ford kicking which means Farrell is hurting

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Post by stub on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:50 pm

Nice

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:50 pm

England all over NZ so far.

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Post by RiscaGame on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:51 pm

England could (probably should) be 20 up at halftime.

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Post by TightHEAD on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:51 pm

Farrell looks fone
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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:51 pm

10 nil at half time to England.

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Post by Taylorman on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:51 pm

stub wrote:Nobody crying TM! You are funny Smile)

Oh, ABs are all offside, ABs always get those calls, blah blah. Owens is favouring the ABs.

That’s crying.

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Post by stub on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:51 pm

Ten nil at half time. Half way there!

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Post by king_carlos on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:52 pm

Got to question whether it's time to sub Farrell.

I guess they are just getting him to half time so that the physios can work with him for a decent length of time.

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Post by BamBam on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:52 pm

Make some allowances for the Kiwis, they've been on the cans all day I expect, completely understandable

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Post by nathan on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:52 pm

I don’t get the England should be up by more, New Zealand’s scramble defence has been good

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Post by BigGee on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:52 pm

10-0 England

Should be more but England will take that

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Post by MightyQuin on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:52 pm

Should be about 20 up at least but any lead is good. Have they been in our 22 yet?

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Post by Heaf on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:52 pm

England aren't 'staying in it' - they've been the better team so far ...

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Post by eirebilly on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:52 pm

That was one of the best halves of rugby I have ever seen. England may feel they left 1-2 scores out there but New Zealand have been resilient. The period between 50 - 70 mins will be crucial if England are going to win this.
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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:53 pm

Youngs looks out of place in this England side

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:53 pm

Taylorman wrote:
stub wrote:Nobody crying TM! You are funny Smile)

Oh, ABs are all offside, ABs always get those calls, blah blah. Owens is favouring the ABs.

That’s crying.

Erm...its stating facts...

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Post by nathan on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:53 pm

Where’s susie

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Post by Scottrf on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:54 pm

That was absolutely brilliant. Forwards bossing it. Would feel more comfortable with a few more points on the board for all that play. Farrell kick and offload both bad decisions in good positions.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:54 pm

Couple of key turnovers won by Curry and Underhill. England winning all the key battles for now. The five minutes before half time and the ten minutes after it were when England lost the 2018 international; glad England didn’t lose concentration this time!

NZ very underwhelming, but expect a backlash as ever. England’s bench has to fire, especially with Farrell hurt.

Itoje and Curry and Lawes have been outstanding. As outstanding as Youngs has been awful.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:54 pm

Heaf wrote:England aren't 'staying in it' - they've been the better team so far ...

by some distance. Will Owens bail NZ out?

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Post by Taylorman on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:54 pm

10 nil after virtual complete dominance. May getting run down by a what...Lock?

ABs need to sort out getting turned over, might be time for a Cane to come on. LT probably right there though no way Cane would have got near May.

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Post by Old Man on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:54 pm

Good half for England.

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Post by Taylorman on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:55 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:
Taylorman wrote:
stub wrote:Nobody crying TM! You are funny Smile)

Oh, ABs are all offside, ABs always get those calls, blah blah. Owens is favouring the ABs.

That’s crying.

Erm...its stating facts...

Oh, ok then, facts. ABs always get those calls. Ok then.

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Post by ebop on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:55 pm

England having the game of their life and dominating
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Post by Pal Joey on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:56 pm

Epic first half... England so powerful. The ABs will need find a way to break the line. They seem to be to be getting too cosy with the sidelines... risky play. Maybe straighten up more and find the cross runners? Fantastic match so far... clash of the superpowers. Smile
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Post by kingelderfield on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:58 pm

Game of 2 halves

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Post by LondonTiger on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:58 pm

Taylorman wrote:10 nil after virtual complete dominance. May getting run down by a what...Lock?

ABs need to sort out getting turned over, might be time for a Cane to come on. LT probably right there though no way Cane would have got near May.

Sadly May has an injury and not at full speed. How about the interception Manu forced you said that NZ would never conced? How about the lineout steals? How about the breakdown turnovers?

NZ will probably come out fast, but to give zero credit to England is churlish in the extreme.

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Post by TightHEAD on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:58 pm

Still think it was a try personally, they step in on curry.
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Post by tigertattie on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:58 pm

If the highlight for NZ is a blindside making a tackle then it’s proper barrel scraping stuff.
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Post by kingelderfield on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:59 pm

Farrell and May to lesser extent not fit.
Very good bench to use yet.
Really expect nz to score next.
Half time came good for us.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:59 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
Taylorman wrote:10 nil after virtual complete dominance. May getting run down by a what...Lock?

ABs need to sort out getting turned over, might be time for a Cane to come on. LT probably right there though no way Cane would have got near May.

Sadly May has an injury and not at full speed. How about the interception Manu forced you said that NZ would never conced? How about the lineout steals? How about the breakdown turnovers?

NZ will probably come out fast, but to give zero credit to England is churlish in the extreme.

Its just standard ungracious kiwi behaviour....

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Post by majesticimperialman on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:01 pm

This game so far remind's me of 2012 at Twickenham. England went in 12  nil at half time i think it was. New Zealand came back in the second half in about 2 minutes to with in a point, then England scored 3 try 's in 10 minute spell.

Could this be a similar game?

The pace of the England team getting in the face's of New Zealand. New Zealand at the moment do not have any answers to counter act it.

More of the same please England.

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Post by stub on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:02 pm

40 mins to go. Rinse and repeat please!

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Post by eirebilly on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:03 pm

This is a great 10 point lead for England. The benches are very similar in strengths so I think it will come down to how they are deployed.
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Post by Taylorman on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:03 pm

ebop wrote:England having the game of their life and dominating

Yep England are applying more pressure, they’ve not applied enough scoreboard pressure. Next ten minutes is big. ABs must up the tempo and clear the ruckus out more cleanly. They’re getting caught with the ball allowing the English loosies in.

Farrell and Youngs having mares and have costed England points, Farrell the dropped pass on attack and the missed droppie.

Sam, Read, Savea, and Brodie need to step up as carriers.

This is the sort of match where England score first and we’re chasing.

Ten points is not a lot, but the ABs need the ball, more accuracy and need to up the tempo.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:03 pm

We have to be even more focused now.

They're going to come at us hard now.

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Post by Dirtydave on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:04 pm

Fair play to Eddie jones, he's totally out thought Hanson today thus far!

England almost have the kiwi playbook to hand, 3 times Smith has dropped to first receiver, and 3 times Manu has rushed up, net result 1 turnover, 1 penalty and 1 intercept.

Also england are putting Goodhue and Leinart brown on the deck, over and over. That's killing the inexperienced wingers who look shaky in organised defence.

Bravo england

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:05 pm

Worthy of a final - such is the intensity. A pity that one of these teams will be gone in 40 mins.
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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:05 pm

Cant help but feel that the rain will help NZ.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:05 pm

Ford missed the drop goal...

England need to sort out their clearing kicks and brace for the backlash. Next try wins, probably.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:06 pm

Pal Joey wrote:Worthy of a final - such is the intensity. A pity that one of these teams will be gone in 40 mins.

A real shame this isn’t the final!

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:06 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Still think it was a try personally, they step in on curry.

SH TMO was never going to give it

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Post by Taylorman on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:06 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
Taylorman wrote:10 nil after virtual complete dominance. May getting run down by a what...Lock?

ABs need to sort out getting turned over, might be time for a Cane to come on. LT probably right there though no way Cane would have got near May.

Sadly May has an injury and not at full speed. How about the interception Manu forced you said that NZ would never conced? How about the lineout steals? How about the breakdown turnovers?

NZ will probably come out fast, but to give zero credit to England is churlish in the extreme.

The intercept I said we almost never conceded? , did you read that properly? I said we’d probably throw one.

Lineout steals are one each.

Breakdown turnovers we never discussed.

Anything else?

I have just given England credit but I didn’t expect crying so early.

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Post by BamBam on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:07 pm

Cane on then

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Post by eirebilly on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:07 pm

Hansen blinks first with a change at half time.
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Post by stub on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:08 pm

Come on Daly!

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Post by Dirtydave on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:08 pm

Interestingly, a lot of NZ's 'nuance' play isn't being allowed by england or Nigel owens

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:08 pm

Retalick had Curry round the neck there.

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Post by BigGee on Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:08 pm

Eases him off the ball - the commentators say.

Shoved out of the way - see the rest of us!

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