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Post by BigGee on Wed 04 Dec 2019, 11:17 am

La Rochelle v Glasgow Warriors
Euro Champions Cup
Stade Marcel Deflanfre
La Rochelle
7th December
KO 15.15

Glasgow Warriotrs v La Rochelle
Euro Champions Cup
Scotstoun Stadium
Glasgow
14th December
KO 17.15

Both live on BT Sport


It is hard to predict what to make of these games coming up.

La Rochelle are out, albeit not mathematically, but they are out nevertheless, having lost 2 games and still to play Exeter away. It is not clear how they will view these games, though my suspicion is that they will put out a reasonable side for the home game first up and then will be less concerned about the return in Glasgow, when their focus will have switched back to the Top 14 fixtures that are coming up. If Glasgow can make any headway against them early on, their interest in the first fixture may end up being short lived as well.

Glasgow are still alive but have made life difficult for themselves by not taking any BPs from either of the games that they have played, they are likely to need to win away here and in sale to qualify and on current form, you would not be betting the mortgage on that happening. We have actually done pretty well against French sides away in recent years but this has not been as recent seasons for Glasgow, we are struggling to win and even struggling to score tries. something which has always come easy to us, even when we have lost games. A big nasty French pack may well cause us problems as well if they show any interest in the game, which is hard to tell, but if we let them get away from us, we will struggle to bring them back.

After the resting of players last week, we are surely going to go into this game with our strongest team and hope we can kick start our season. Maybe something along these lines:

1. Keeble
2. Brown
3. Fagerson Z
4. Gray
5. Cummings
6. Wilson
7. Gibbins
8. Fagerson M
9. Horne G
10. Hastings
11. Steyn
12. Johnson
13. Jones (I can but hope)
14. DTH
15. Seymour

Subs:

Seuili
Turner
Rae
McDonald - one of the few who impressed off the bench last week
Harley
Price
Horne P
Niko

I pick Jones more in hope than expectation and fully expect to see Grigg running out in his place!


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Post by RDW on Wed 04 Dec 2019, 11:20 am

Given Jones' Mr invisible performance last weekend due you really want him playing?

Noting Dunbar's comments that players need a run of games to get back into things!

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Post by BigGee on Wed 04 Dec 2019, 11:30 am

I don't think he was any better or worse than anyone else last week and in all honesty Pete Horne made a complete cobblers of any decent ball we had long before it came to him.

Huw Jones confidence must be shot to hell and the only way we will see what kind of a player he might be with Glasgow is to play him over the next run of big games. In truth he has never had a run of games for us and we don't really know what he can do.

We do know what Grigg can do, hard working, honest but limited. A very decent club player, who coaches no doubt love, but probably won't win you anything.

If Shuggy is still playing rubbish after the two derby games then I will happily join in the cries for him to be paid off but I still don't feel he has been given a proper chance.

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Post by Tramptastic on Wed 04 Dec 2019, 11:57 am

What bothers me is none of Glasgows matches been decided by the 13s. There's never been a match this season where fans have gone "thank god for Grigg". So where is the risk in saying to Jones "you've got our backing for the next 3 matches to try and find some form, if you get form then you'll keep the shirt, if you don't then it goes back to Grigg".

As Cockerill has been keen to point out, the pro14 teams are in a run of 13 games in a row which is a shedload of work to get through. You could give 4 games to Grigg and 4 games to Jones to see who comes up with the best form and you'd still have matches leftover to back your best 13!

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Post by RDW on Wed 04 Dec 2019, 11:59 am

I actually think Steyn is Glasgow's best 13...

On last season's form anyway, but he hasn't been given a chance there this season.

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Post by BigGee on Wed 04 Dec 2019, 12:26 pm

RDW wrote:I actually think Steyn is Glasgow's best 13...

On last season's form anyway, but he hasn't been given a chance there this season.

He played well in a free flowing backline and took the most of his chances. I think he is a player with better potential than Grigg as well but is being pushed outwards as DR does not seem to rate many of our wingers either!

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Post by BigGee on Wed 04 Dec 2019, 1:02 pm

Well it seems Glasgow rate Kyle Steyn as well, he has just signed on for two more years till 2022.

He has been a good addition to the squad and hopefully we have not seen the best of him yet. I would have less issue with him starting at 13 this weekend than Nick Grigg!

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