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Post by super_realist on Tue 28 Jan 2020, 6:46 am

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dynamark wrote:Kobe beef isn't that a real thing.Not familiar with the gent but Basketball is a great spectator sport in that there is a score every few seconds and always a result .
Lowry has done very  well to say the least in view of the stick he gets.Good lad

Do you think so? It's certainly a great sport to play, but it's pretty boring to watch. 75% of the game is irrelevant. It only becomes slightly interesting in the last quarter when the match is won and lost. I thinks that's the problem with American sport. They concentrate so much on there being frequent scoring, that it becomes routine and lacks excitement when they do score.
I prefer moments of brilliance in sports rather than just constant routine points.

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Post by super_realist on Wed 19 Feb 2020, 2:13 pm

McLaren wrote:
super_realist wrote:Mac, I cope in social situation exactly the same way as anyone else does. Why do you have a problem understanding that?
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You really don't see it?

Have you not noticed that your posting style on here is very different to everyone elses?

You're making the assumption that my personality is exactly the same on here as it is in life. Frankly I'd be worried if you were the same here as in the real world.

Its more interesting to be a bit thorny and antagonistic. Would you rather I was just an insipid wet quilt instead?

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Post by Soul Requiem on Wed 19 Feb 2020, 2:14 pm

This didn't quite go the way Mac planned and he's now backtracking, bless his cotton socks.

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Post by McLaren on Wed 19 Feb 2020, 2:16 pm

Ha, ha. Do you see yourself as a sort of "edgy" Ricky Gervais or Hitchens type when you post on here.

:erm:

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Post by superflyweight on Wed 19 Feb 2020, 2:17 pm

super_realist wrote:Mac, I cope in social situation exactly the same way as anyone else does. Why do you have a problem understanding that?

How do I come off to those around me, ask them. Why would I come off any different to anyone else, and if they didn't like me, I'd soon be cut out, so you can assume it is positively. After all, it wasn't me who playing partners refused to have a drink with it was you, it wasn't me who was voted less popular on this forum when you ran a poll, it was you. So try taking a look at yourself instead of caring about me. It seems you are more likely to be having problems than I am.

It seems to me that you're just gutted that I'm doing better in life than you are and you can't handle that someone could be just as happy and fulfilled as you are.

The developments in AI are both staggering and frightening.

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Post by McLaren on Wed 19 Feb 2020, 2:18 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:This didn't quite go the way Mac planned and he's now backtracking, bless his cotton socks.

You are new'ish to the golf section so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. But everyone saw this going the way it did. Super acts in a bizarre fashion and then claims to be totally normal in real life, is nothing new.
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Post by super_realist on Wed 19 Feb 2020, 2:20 pm

McLaren wrote:Ha, ha. Do you see yourself as a sort of "edgy" Ricky Gervais or Hitchens type when you post on here.

Erm  


What are you on about?

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Post by Soul Requiem on Wed 19 Feb 2020, 2:21 pm

McLaren wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:This didn't quite go the way Mac planned and he's now backtracking, bless his cotton socks.

You are new'ish to the golf section so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. But everyone saw this going the way it did. Super acts in a bizarre fashion and then claims to be totally normal in real life, is nothing new.

I'm well aware that you're far too soft to understand anything outside of your little bubble.

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Post by super_realist on Wed 19 Feb 2020, 2:21 pm

McLaren wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:This didn't quite go the way Mac planned and he's now backtracking, bless his cotton socks.

You are new'ish to the golf section so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. But everyone saw this going the way it did. Super acts in a bizarre fashion and then claims to be totally normal in real life, is nothing new.

Yet, it's you everyone laughs at here

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Post by McLaren on Wed 19 Feb 2020, 2:22 pm

What do you mean by "soft" and what is my bubble?
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Post by beninho on Wed 19 Feb 2020, 3:21 pm

Anyone wannabe talk about football? Or something that wont get dragged the gutter.

Saw an interesting programme on Scottish football last night, after the brits. It was about the 80s into 90s. Didn't realise Celtic were so close to going under. And a guy wanted to merge hibs and hearts.

Then Laudrup turned up and you know that was never going to end well!

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Post by super_realist on Wed 19 Feb 2020, 3:23 pm

beninho wrote:Anyone wannabe talk about football? Or something that wont get dragged the gutter.

Saw an interesting programme on Scottish football last night, after the brits. It was about the 80s into 90s. Didn't realise Celtic were so close to going under. And a guy wanted to merge hibs and hearts.

Then Laudrup turned up  and you know that was never going to end well!
Very easy to drag Scottish football into the gutter.

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Post by westisbest on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 7:26 am

On the having children issue. Who really cares if people have them or don’t in their mid 40’s or older.

I have a son, I don’t have any desire to have anymore.
Is my life any better than before I became a dad. I wouldn’t say so. It’s defiantly not any worse. Yes of course, life becomes different when you become a parent.

I really enjoy being a dad, but yes there are things I miss before I became a dad.

Also I was single for a long time before I met my now wife. It was a great time I must admit.

Point being, there is no issue in not having children throughout life.

Must say McLaren, what is your obsession with realist. It’s a bit weird.
The guy’s in his mid 40’s if I’m correct, he has no children and is single if I’m right. That ain’t a bad thing.

Freedom if that’s the right way of putting it, do what he wants when he wants. Fair play.

I do miss those days a bit, but equally(even if it doesn’t sound like it), enjoy my life now.

Each to their own.
We get one life. Let’s live it how we want.

Anyway, not that it matters I suppose, but that’s just my take on the subject.

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Post by JAS on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 9:48 am

super_realist wrote:How useless is Rebecca Long Bailey.
So stupid she said Clement Atlee was her favourite Labour leader in the last 50 years and so stupid she said she wanted to keep the monarchy to see Meghan be Queen.

Useless in what context? As a leader of the Labour Party? Yes, she’s not what is required. Did she actually say last 50? If so she is in some sort of time warp, Attlee ceases being PM in ‘51 and Labour leader in 54. Leaving the timings out of it I don’t think there’s much stupidity in naming Attlee as her favourite, he was a game changer and to be fair whilst he might not have been as electorally successful as Blair, he was also less divisive.

As for see Meghan be queen...wtf, other than trying to be controversial for the sake of it, why say that? It serves no useful purpose and therefore does help back up your assertion that she’s useless.

Re Starmer, I think he’s a smarter operator than a lot of people currently realise. Having said that leading the unleadable against an elite right wing populist is a whole different ball game. I would imagine the Daily mail are already interviewing his primary school mates looking for dirt.

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Post by super_realist on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 10:13 am

She also said she would give Corbyn 10/10 for his tenure of the Labour Party.
Hopefully even the stupid Momentum arm of the Labour party will see they can't elect this moron and hope to move on.

As for Meghan, is RLB too stupid to realise that she's not even on the right side of the succession line? Every child born on William's side puts Harry further from being King. Even a child understands this. It is effectively impossible that Harry will ever be king.
What an idiot RLB is. It should be a direct contest between Nandy and Starmer.

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Post by JAS on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 10:20 am

super_realist wrote:She also said she would give Corbyn 10/10 for his tenure of the Labour Party.
Hopefully even the stupid Momentum arm of the Labour party will see they can't elect this moron and hope to move on.

Super, ideologs have a different perspective of what constitutes “moving on” than the average non political punter. To them preservation of ideology is more important than power. Even when it’s highlighted that not having power means that somebody else with diametrically opposing views does, they still plump for ideological purity. Now THAT is stupid!!

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Post by super_realist on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 10:33 am

The next month could see Labour becoming as insignificant as the Liberal Democrats if they pick a Socialist Corbynist leader.

Momentum really are stupid if they'd rather plough their crackpot furrow than be challenging for power as a more centrist party.

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Post by superflyweight on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 10:53 am

super_realist wrote:She also said she would give Corbyn 10/10 for his tenure of the Labour Party.
Hopefully even the stupid Momentum arm of the Labour party will see they can't elect this moron and hope to move on.

As for Meghan, is RLB too stupid to realise that she's not even on the right side of the succession line? Every child born on William's side puts Harry further from being King.  Even a child understands this. It is effectively impossible that Harry will ever be king.
What an idiot RLB is. It should be a direct contest between Nandy and Starmer.

Two words - "King Ralph".

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Post by McLaren on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 2:47 pm

Westi

As I made clear yesterday there was no value judgment on being married, having kids, being single etc it was just statistically quite likely that Super would have to increasingly interact with people who had chosen to go down the family route (I route I hope to never take). And the point was that it would be hard to imagine that he would be a popular figure in his friend group if the real super_realist was anything like his persona on here. Trying to whip up the atheist debates of the late mid to late 00's while people are trying to work out the stresses of having a family can't be a good look.
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Post by super_realist on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 2:53 pm

McLaren wrote:Westi

As I made clear yesterday there was no value judgment on being married, having kids, being single etc it was just statistically quite likely that Super would have to increasingly interact with people who had chosen to go down the family route (I route I hope to never take). And the point was that it would be hard to imagine that he would be a popular figure in his friend group if the real super_realist was anything like his persona on here.  Trying to whip up the atheist debates of the late mid to late 00's while people are trying to work out the stresses of having a family can't be a good look.

What an odd way of looking at things Mac.
You're right that most people are married with kids at my age, but that doesn't mean they turn into some sort of wet, simpering family man or woman when they are in your company.
You seem to have this really weird image of what you think it's like to be a parent. It doesn't have to mean you turn into some sort of proud parent bore who can't mix with people who don't have kids.
None of my friends are any different now to when they had their kids other than they are more difficult to get out.

Also, I don't think you ever have to worry about being a father.

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Post by Soul Requiem on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 2:53 pm

McLaren wrote:Westi

As I made clear yesterday there was no value judgment on being married, having kids, being single etc it was just statistically quite likely that Super would have to increasingly interact with people who had chosen to go down the family route (I route I hope to never take). And the point was that it would be hard to imagine that he would be a popular figure in his friend group if the real super_realist was anything like his persona on here.  Trying to whip up the atheist debates of the late mid to late 00's while people are trying to work out the stresses of having a family can't be a good look.

Still imagining everyone to be as wet as you then Mac.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 3:14 pm

Children are the gift that keeps on giving.
Not for everyone perhaps but most parents would say their lives have been enhanced by children. Best thing ever for this Dad. Even if he did wait awhile.

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Post by McLaren on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 3:20 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Children are the gift that keeps on giving.
Not for everyone perhaps but most parents would say their lives have been enhanced by children. Best thing ever for this Dad. Even if he did wait awhile.

Not sure my mum would agree with that sentiment.
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Post by McLaren on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 3:20 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:

Still imagining everyone to be as wet as you then Mac.

I guess you missed my question yesterday. So here it is again. What do you mean by "wet"?

It's like a pet saying you have.
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Post by beninho on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 7:57 pm

Just a thanks to realist, who introduced me to rick shiels, watched his video with John Robin's from badgolf, which I do follow, and really enjoyed it.


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Post by dynamark on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 9:03 pm

Kwini its 9 00 and I'm about to go pick my daughter up from work(at golf club) and drop her home for the 4th time this week(30 mile trip) 22 years old and ive been doing this for 6 years on and off.
I know I have to say at some point that's it I'm done but you don't want to do it .That's how it goes

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 20 Feb 2020, 10:53 pm

Good man dyna,
I'm foregoing my daughter's 13/14 year-old special night at the school she teaches at 35 miles away so that I can pick up her brother from the airport at midnight.
Wouldn't have it any other way.

Just about time your daughter got herself some wheels . . . . . .

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Post by super_realist on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 7:54 am

beninho wrote:Just a thanks to realist, who introduced me to rick shiels, watched his video with John Robin's from badgolf, which I do follow, and really enjoyed it.


His business partner Peter Finch used to be quite good on YouTube too, but he's become ridiculously self obsessed, almost every video is about him, what he's got in the bag, full of boring course vlogs featuring him and his equally ordinary mates etc. If I wanted to see an average golfer play golf I could just go down the course, there's a great chance I'd see better golf than what Finch is capable of too. For a while Rick Shiels was going down this route but realised it was boring and self indulgent, he's now got himself pretty much the best golf channel on YouTube by focussing on videos people want to see and what he is best at.

Finch also has this absurd pipe dream called "Quest for the Open" where he attempts to qualify for the Open every year despite not being remotely good enough.  It's almost funny how deluded he is. He does a whole build up for months, then shoots 78 in qualifying. Anyone with humility or self awareness would give it up, or rename the project to something which is actually attainable, i.e. making a cut on the Europro Tour or Alps Tour.

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Post by McLaren on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 9:02 am

I know people think my spelling is shoddy and will therefore think this is rich coming from me. But Rick Shiels grammar and general grasp of English is too off putting to watch.
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Post by super_realist on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 9:22 am

McLaren wrote:I know people think my spelling is shoddy and will therefore think this is rich coming from me. But Rick Shiels grammar and general grasp of English is too off putting to watch.

It is irritating when people say "you was" instead of "you were" for example, and Rick is guilty of that, but I generally enjoy his content.

One of the biggest offenders is Mark Crossfield and his use of "game" as in "I game that club". That's particularly bad grammar.

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Post by McLaren on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 10:03 am

Super

"gaming" or "I game" is not poor grammar, it is part of the standard golfing vernacular in 2020.
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Post by super_realist on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 10:32 am

McLaren wrote:Super

"gaming" or "I game" is not poor grammar, it is part of the standard golfing vernacular in 2020.

It's a ghastly Americanism like "bested" or "medalled", besides Mac, do you really want to talk like a golfer?

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Post by Davie on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 10:47 am

I'd say it's bad enough when people use golf as a verb.

"To golf" or "To play golf" - I know which I prefer

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Post by McLaren on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 11:26 am

Super

When I golf I talk like a golfer.
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Post by kwinigolfer on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 12:16 pm

But do you play like a golfer?
And do you "golf" your ball??!!


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Post by McLaren on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 12:28 pm

The ball golfs me.
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Post by kwinigolfer on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 1:43 pm

Me too, Mac,

One thing playing golf with American mates is noticing to what extent we are separated by the same language - they seem to love the way I swear on the course, completely different from their language.

No doubt Plunky experiences the same phenomenon . . . . . Run

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Post by McLaren on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 2:39 pm

I googled the John Robbins guy, he is a total duffer. And Super thought Finch was bad.
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Post by Plunky on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 2:51 pm

All the time ! I find it funny the way that "bloody" is used over here. I belong to a community chorus (I'm one of the youngest members) and our director, a sweet lady of probably around 70, often uses it purely as emphasis. I know my mum and her friends in England would be shocked. On the other hand, my mum, sister and I would sometimes use "bitch" in an affectionate way, as in "silly bitch". Does not go down well here !

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Post by beninho on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 3:04 pm

McLaren wrote:I googled the John Robbins guy, he is a total duffer. And Super thought Finch was bad.

His golfpafe is called badgolf, so not sure what you'd expect?

Also, he is a comedian.

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Post by McLaren on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 3:34 pm

beninho wrote:

Also, he is a comedian.

Based on his swing I am going to guess he specialises in slapstick.
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Post by super_realist on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 3:44 pm

McLaren wrote:
beninho wrote:

Also, he is a comedian.

Based on his swing I am going to guess he specialises in slapstick.

I wonder if people were as bad at other sports as they are at golf whether they would bother doing them still?

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Post by kwinigolfer on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 3:45 pm

Plunky wrote:All the time !  I find it funny the way that "bloody" is used over here.   I belong to a community chorus (I'm one of the youngest members) and our director, a sweet lady of probably around 70, often uses it purely as emphasis.  I know my mum and her friends in England would be shocked. On the other hand, my mum, sister and I would sometimes use "bitch" in an affectionate way, as in "silly bitch".  Does not go down well here !

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There's no doubt that English swear words ("bloody" especially) are seldom if ever used appropriately by Americans. And they never get the versatility of such words as p1ss and b0ll0cks. Let alone more vitriolic epithets, the use of which tends, especially in tandem, to shock. Which is sometimes why I use them!

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Post by dynamark on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 3:54 pm

The Finch story reminds me of Maurice Flitcroft aka Gerrard Hoppy and several other alias who tried for years with some wins to get into Open quali . Great story bit of an Eddie the Eagle for golf

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Post by beninho on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 3:54 pm

super_realist wrote:
McLaren wrote:
beninho wrote:

Also, he is a comedian.

Based on his swing I am going to guess he specialises in slapstick.

I wonder if people were as bad at other sports as they are at golf whether they would bother doing them still?

Football pitches, cricket pitches all over the country are pretty much filled with people most weekends with players of all abilities.

The problem with golf, is it's got a lot of golf wnkers. The sort of people who comment on what people wear or play or how good they are. I've not seen it so much in other sports, with grown ups anyway.

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Post by super_realist on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 4:03 pm

I realise that was a dig at me, but I don't really see sunday league footballers as being as bad as some of the golfers I see, and what is more obvious is that people in amateur sports tend to improve over time.
Golf seems to be the only sport where people can't, won't or aren't bothered about being better.

If you take a 20 handicapper, that's basically the same as someone who would hit the corner flag when aiming for the goal.

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Post by beninho on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 4:22 pm

That's pretty regular on most weekend matches! At times they don't even make it to the corner flag, sometimes it goes for a throw in.

Weekend football is all levels. 4/5/6th teams, pub teams. But, they all get on and enjoy it same with cricket during the summer.

But, players are generally supportive towards each other. Because they also know that if people knock it on the head, they wont get to play.

Weekend footballers or cricketers dont tend to get better as they get older.

It's just about having fun, and playing at different levels.

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Post by super_realist on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 4:25 pm

beninho wrote:That's pretty regular on most weekend matches! At times they don't even make it to the corner flag, sometimes it goes for a throw in.

Weekend football is all levels. 4/5/6th teams, pub teams. But, they all get on and enjoy it  same with cricket during the summer.

But, players are generally supportive towards each other. Because they also know that if people knock it on the head, they wont get to play.

Weekend footballers or cricketers dont tend to get better as they get older.

It's just about having fun, and playing at different levels.

The football I've seen has been pretty aggressive to be fair. It doesn't look like they're having too much fun or being that supportive, but they were maybe just Scottish.

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Post by beninho on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 4:29 pm

Players turn up hungover, or travel miles at weekends to play. Most wouldn't do that if it wasn't for the fun and love of the game. Always aggressive,as that's pretty much all they have.

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Post by Plunky on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 4:35 pm

I thought a 20 handicapper was a guy who basically played bogey golf. If you're playing bogey golf you're certainly playing well enough to enjoy yourself, and that's what a lot of people want out of golf. I know I could lower my handicap if I took some more lessons, practiced more etc. but I want to leave time for other hobbies. I know a lot of people who feel this way, don't know why it seems to bother you.

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Post by super_realist on Fri 21 Feb 2020, 5:49 pm

Doesn't bother me, I just wonder why so many people accept being so bad at something and making no progress.
If I scuffed a football or sliced it every time I touched the ball, and had been doing so for 10 years, I doubt I'd play it anymore.

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