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Post by Guest on Mon 27 Jun 2011, 11:08 am

Okay Formula 1 has become boring at the front due to the genius that is Adrian Newey and his colleagues at Red Bull. In no way am i forgetting the brilliant drives by Sebastian Vettel this year but the guy is in a superior car with no competition. Vettel has realised in the last two races that he doesnt need to bomb round and gain a 25 second lead to win but does enough to gain a 3 or 4 second lead and conserve the tyres and engine.

My main point is that Mark Webber has been a disgrace this year and he should retire without doubt at the end of this year for the good of f1. He is sitting in the most superior car on the grid and Vettel has destroyed him, without even breaking sweat.....shocking! Webber may be joint 2nd in the title but thats where he should be cos hes in the red bull. He may have ended on the podium in the majority of the races but thats not suprising with the lack of competition. The reason f1 is boring and the title is over is due to mark webber. the tyres i think have enhanced the racing although DRS i believe should be removed. artificial overtaking just pleases the casual f1 fan, not a die hard motor racing fan. DRS has taken all the quality out of overtaking and made it a regular occurance with the defender not being able to defend.

Without doubt hamilton or a return for kimi (please kimi) must replace this has been australian. Vettel with a newey car and the ludicrous management of whitmarsh at mclaren could lead to a domination of f1 by a german driver again.

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Post by dyrewolfe on Mon 27 Jun 2011, 1:14 pm

The reason f1 is boring and the title is over is due to mark webber.


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The rest of your article is equally ridiculous. If you'd known what F1 was like 10-15 years ago (or actually had a clue what you were talking about) you wouldn't be making comments like this. Two words to sum this up:

EPIC FAIL

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Post by Guest on Tue 28 Jun 2011, 3:25 pm

so your sayin Mark Webber has performed well this season in relation to the car he is in?........I think you need open your eyes. If Hamilton or Kimi were in Mark's seat there would not be a 70+ point difference. FACT!

Secondly DRS is a technology which has enhanced overtaking artificially. FACT! The quality of overtaking has dramatically reduced, however the quantity has sky rocketed. (If you can agree with this then you are totally stupid).




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Post by liverbnz on Tue 28 Jun 2011, 3:52 pm

Australia - Rear suspension
Malaysia - complete KERS failure, passed 10 cars to finish 4th
China - complete KERS failure, qualified 18th and finished 2nd. Would have undoubtedly won the race if there were 3/4 more laps.
Spain - pole, another poor start hindered his race.
Canada - taken out by Hamilton early doors. Finishes 3rd.
Valencia - qualified 2nd, made a mistake with pit stop, gear box problems

So I'd say it was a mixtire of unrealibility and some errors on his own part. No one is arguing that he is better or even on a par with Vettel, Hamilton or Alonso, but to say he is a disgrace to F1 is something straight out of the 606 copybook. Also, there is no need to be calling someone stupid for not agreeing with you, grow up and debate like an adult or do one.

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Post by fantantonio on Tue 28 Jun 2011, 4:06 pm

John wrote:
Secondly DRS is a technology which has enhanced overtaking artificially. FACT! The quality of overtaking has dramatically reduced, however the quantity has sky rocketed. (If you can agree with this then you are totally stupid).

IMO DRS enables races to flow better. There is nothing more irritating than a slow car having a good start and blocking all the cars behind him until the first pitstop whilst the leader runs off into a 15 second lead. At least with DRS it is easier to see the true pace of a car and driver.

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Post by Guest on Tue 28 Jun 2011, 4:13 pm

Yes but Sebastian Vettel had far worse mechanical issues last season and he won the WDC! A KERS failure for a Red Bull still makes the car the quickest on the grid. FACT! Webber can manage to save his races due to the fact the competition beyond Ferrari and McLaren is appaling.

Okay I apologise for saying Webber is a disgrace but for the good of f1 longterm he must be replaced by a true racer. Also why is there always a KERS issue or gearbox issue with Webber and not Vettel! Very fishy, but everyone with half a brain cell knows the favouritism towards Seb through Helmut is astonishing.

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Post by Fernando on Tue 28 Jun 2011, 4:18 pm

admittedly mark is having a bad season but i think the pirelli tyres suit vettel's tyres much better the mark's cos they always seem to go off a good 5 laps earlier then seb's and there's been rumors of him moving to renault and 1 of the toro rosso (feeder team) boys taking his place.

if true id take alguersuari over buemi

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Post by Guest on Tue 28 Jun 2011, 4:49 pm

the only reason vettel's tyres last longer than his rivals is the fact he grabs pole and on the initial first two or three laps which are crucial for the longetivity of the tyres he is in clear air and can push to the limit he wishes to. His rivals including webber are fighting tooth and nail and making overtaking manoeurves (some successful and some unsuccessful). This added to the fact there in dirty air and having to brake more harshly behind slower cars all adds up. Hamilton gets hurt the most from these pirelli tyres and due to the fact mclaren arent performing for him hes become frustrated and he destroys his tyres from the off trying to gain positions. Vettel is in dreamland a weak teammate and rivals who are impeding there chargers towards seb. this is looking like another button 09' season which was farsical. shame but its a reality. thts y my main point of webber completely failing is so key to the position f1 finds itself.

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