England vs India 3rd Test Ratings

England

Alistair Cook- 10
Andrew Strauss- 8
Ian Bell- 6
Kevin Pietersen- 7
Eoin Morgan- 9
Ravi Bopara- 2
Matt Prior- 4
Tim Bresnan- 8
Stuart Broad- 8
Graeme Swann- 6
James Anderson- 8

India

Gautam Gambhir- 5
Virender Sehwag- 0
Rahul Dravid- 3
Sachin Tendulkar- 5
VVS Laxman- 4
Suresh Raina- 2
MS Dhoni- 8
Amit Mishra- 4
Praveen Kumar- 6
Ishant Sharma- 2
Sreesanth- 1

Whats your ratings for the memorable 3rd Test?

England:

Strauss 7 (Should've got a ton, only 1 in 30 odd innings)
Cook 9 (I'm a tad harsh but 300 was soo close!)
Bell 5 (Looked in decent nick but got a ripper)
Pietersen 6 (Set for another 200, but lost the plot and fell to his pal Kumar)
Morgan 8 (decent innings, but has to stop giving catching practice!)
Bopara 1 (unlucky with the bat, pretty poor fielding, but got a catch)
Prior 3 (tried to get on with it with the bat, missing a stumping of Swanny)
Bresnan 8 (magic ball to Dravid, solid 50, solid player)
Broad 7 (got Sehwag and Tendulkar, happy days)
Swann 3 (got Raina and Mishra, but got smashed by Kumar)
Anderson 9 (basically won the match this morning)

India

Sehwag 1 (no runs, unfit, plus side took a catch)
Gambhir 4 (gets starts and gets out)
Dravid 2 (shocking dropped catches, out to a ripper in first innings)
Tendulkar 4 (poor shot first innings, unlucky second innings)
Laxman 4 (Poor shot first innings, hates fielding)
Raina 1 (not Test class)
Dhoni 8 (stand out by miles. fought in both innings)
Mishra 3 (3 wickets but no control and soo many no balls)
Kumar 8 (bowled well and very economical. batted well)
Sharma 1 (missing Khan)
Sreesanth 1 (clown)

Does Dhoni really deserve an 8? Seems some people weren't too pleased with his wicket keeping and captaincy. Were Sharma and Sreesanth that bad?

Morgan's 8 was a bit high. He was dropped twice and therefore extremely lucky to get his hundred.

I'd have given Anderson a 9.

teassoc wrote:Does Dhoni really deserve an 8? Seems some people weren't too pleased with his wicket keeping and captaincy. Were Sharma and Sreesanth that bad?

Morgan's 8 was a bit high. He was dropped twice and therefore extremely lucky to get his hundred.

I'd have given Anderson a 9.

Dhoni's captaincy has been questioned, but it down to the resources he has. Ponting was often lauded a great captain, until his limitations where shown up in 2005 Ashes.

Morgan might have been dropped, but he still got to 100 and played well.

Sreesanth and Sharma wouldn't get into my village green side!

England

Alistair Cook- 9 (It would have been 10 had he scored 6 more runs)
Andrew Strauss- 7 (Would have been 8 had he scored 13 more runs)
Ian Bell- 6
Kevin Pietersen- 7
Eoin Morgan- 7
Ravi Bopara- 0
Matt Prior- 6
Tim Bresnan- 8
Stuart Broad- 8
Graeme Swann- 6 (Bad day at the office but chipped in with 2)
James Anderson- 9 (Proves he is the best swing bowler in the world by a mile at the moment)

India

Gautam Gambhir- 5
Virender Sehwag- 0 (Most meaningless contribution in 2 batting innings ever?)
Rahul Dravid- 4
Sachin Tendulkar- 6 (That second innings run out was so unlucky)
VVS Laxman- 2 (Poor attitude during England's innings)
Suresh Raina- 2
MS Dhoni- 9 (The keeping wasn't great but the batting was great and provided entertainment)
Amit Mishra- 5
Praveen Kumar- 6 (Best bowler, kept things reasonably tight)
Ishant Sharma- 2
Sreesanth- 1 (I was going to give him a 2 but I really hate that haircut)

England

Andrew Strauss- 8
Alistair Cook- 10
Ian Bell- 8
KP- 6
Eoin Morgan- 10
Ravi Bopara-3
Matt Prior-6
Graeme Swann-7
Tim Bresnan-8
Stuart Broad-9
James Anderson-10

India

Virender Sehwag- 0
Gautam Gambhir-4
Rahul Dravid- 3
Sachin Tendulkar-5
VVS Laxman-2
Suresh Raina-2
M.S.Dhoni-8
Amit Mishra-5
Sressanth-4
Ishant-3
Kumar-8

Tim bresnan is making himself very hard to leave out now!

Right, after catching up on all the action I can honestly say it was a rubbish test match. Really boring.

Ratings:

England

Andrew Strauss: 7 - A start but should have converted
Alistair Cook: 9 - Great batting but so boring at times, should have made a triple ton
Ian Bell: 7 - Should have converted
KP: 6 - Should have converted and should have bowled a bit more than he did
Eoin Morgan: 7 - Easiest century of all time against India who seamed to have given up. Still not convinced about him at test level
Ravi Bopara: 2 - Shouldn't have been in the side. Got out against an Indian side that had given up
Matt Prior: 7 - Great behind the stumps
Graeme Swann: 5 - Got smashed to all parts, not great from Swanny
Tim Bresnan: 9 - Brilliant from Bresnan again
Stuart Broad: 9 - Brilliant from Broady again
James Anderson: 10 - MOTM for his bowling

India

Virender Sehwag: -10 - Yes that's right he scores minus 10. Rubbish in both innings, King Pair. Enough said
Gautam Gambhir: 3 - Stupid shot to get out in second innings
Rahul Dravid: 4 - The wall didnt really do anything
Sachin Tendulkar: 6 - Very unlucky in the second innings
VVS Laxman: 1 - Did nothing of note
Suresh Raina: 4 - For his bowling alone which was fairly decent
M.S.Dhoni: 8 - After two awful tests the captain stood up
Amit Mishra: 5 - Alright bowling
Sressanth: 2 - I honestly cannot remember him doing anything of note
Ishant: 3 - Seamed out of ideas
Kumar: 8 - Probably the only indian head not to drop, had some fun with the bat

Gregers wrote:Right, after catching up on all the action I can honestly say it was a rubbish test match. Really boring.

Ratings:

England

Andrew Strauss: 7 - A start but should have converted
Alistair Cook: 9 - Great batting but so boring at times, should have made a triple ton
Ian Bell: 7 - Should have converted
KP: 6 - Should have converted and should have bowled a bit more than he did
Eoin Morgan: 7 - Easiest century of all time against India who seamed to have given up. Still not convinced about him at test level
Ravi Bopara: 2 - Shouldn't have been in the side. Got out against an Indian side that had given up
Matt Prior: 7 - Great behind the stumps
Graeme Swann: 5 - Got smashed to all parts, not great from Swanny
Tim Bresnan: 9 - Brilliant from Bresnan again
Stuart Broad: 9 - Brilliant from Broady again
James Anderson: 10 - MOTM for his bowling

India

Virender Sehwag: -10 - Yes that's right he scores minus 10. Rubbish in both innings, King Pair. Enough said
Gautam Gambhir: 3 - Stupid shot to get out in second innings
Rahul Dravid: 4 - The wall didnt really do anything
Sachin Tendulkar: 6 - Very unlucky in the second innings
VVS Laxman: 1 - Did nothing of note
Suresh Raina: 4 - For his bowling alone which was fairly decent
M.S.Dhoni: 8 - After two awful tests the captain stood up
Amit Mishra: 5 - Alright bowling
Sressanth: 2 - I honestly cannot remember him doing anything of note
Ishant: 3 - Seamed out of ideas
Kumar: 8 - Probably the only indian head not to drop, had some fun with the bat

Anderson 10 but Cook 9, what?!

Cook made 294 a once in a lifetime innings it shouldn't matter if it's boring the runs are what matters.

I found Cook's innings boring.

Anderson managed not to send me to sleep

It's the runs that matter though.

Maybe, but we should have declared earlier. Had cook not got out when would we have declared? When he got to 300, 334 (to beat Gooch's record), 365 (To beat the all time record for an Englishman in tests) or once the team had got to 911 to beat the all time English score record?

Im sorry but I felt that Cook could've and should've moved up through the gears

He didn't need to go through the gears though, time was on England side.

Liam has a point, England had over 2 days left to bowl out India, there was no need for Cook to start slogging to all parts. The important thing was batting India well out of the game and Cook ground them into dust. In fact, Cook's pace might've helped wear them down.

England.
Andrew Strauss 7(The captain's back with some runs, but he should have converted it).
Alastair Cook( 10 during the debate on the last test ratings, I had given Broad a 9.5, and my logic was that you give a perfect 10 for a life time performance. Cook not converting it into a triple was a shame, nevertheless 294 means 2-9-4, and its not so often you reach such high points).
Ian Bell 5(got dropped in the slips, but then didnt make use of it to score a big one against an attack that had given up).
Kevin Pietersen 7(got a start, but didn't go on).
Eoin Morgan 8(a chancy but attractive hundred).
Ravi Bopara 2(Bopara failed where he couldn't have succeeded, unfortunate, but may be its time England look beyond him, at least for now).
Mat Prior 4(hasn't had the time to do heroicswith the bat, and didn't have the best of times behind the stumps, missing a stumping of Swann).
Tim Bresnan 8(Bresnan's grabbing the opportunity that came his way with both hands, heart and everything else, impressive with the bat, impressive with the ball).
Stuart Broad 7(continues his impressive showing in the series, didn't hve the opportunity with the bat this time though).
Graeme Swann 5(Swann picked up a couple of wickets, but got hit around, particularly by Praveen Kumar).
James Anderson 8(continues to lead the attack brilliantly).

Cook has to be 10 - when he's scored that many and put the team in an utterly dominant position it matters not in the slightest that he didn't get six more runs....

Plenty of other players at the other end from Cook were able to go through the gears - and did so very effectively. Cook's innings was pretty well perfection for the situation - unless we think England should be marked down for not winning the match by lunchtime on the 4th day.

India.
Virender Sehwag 0(Sehwag had a totaly disappointing test, a king pair was the last thing India needed from the flamboyant opener).
Gautam Gambhir 4(Gambhir continues to get starts, Gambhir continues to throw them away).
Rahul Dravid3)Dravid stood out in the first 2 matches, but this time the wall just couldn't get going. 2 drop catches, and a failure to review when he wasn't even convinced about the umpire's call in the 2nd innings added to his problems).
Sachin Tendulkar 4(This just doesn't seem to be Sachin's series, played a poor shot first time round, and was desperately unlucky 2nd time around, just when he looked well set to offer some fight).
VVS Laxman 2(nothing much to speak about VVS this time).
Suresh Raina 4(didn't turn up with the bat, and had his share of trouble with short ball and Graeme Swann, but gets a point for filling in with a few half deecent overs when the Indian bowlers were being Cooked).
Mahendra Singh Dhoni 8(at last the captain turned up with the bat, top scoring in both innings, and going down with a fight. But he will be very disappointed with the eventual result. The glove work was relatively better in comparisonn to the last match).
Amit Mishra 4(got some wickets, and bowled better than Harbhajan did in the last 2 matches, but not by much, and a spinner bowling so many no balls for so long now, is just terrible. Had a go with the bat in the 2nd innings as well).
Praveen Kumar 7(PK remained the pick of the Indian bowling yet again, and provided fine entertainment with the bat, involved in 2 entertaining partnerships with Dhoni).
Ishant Sharma 2(Was Ishant's West Indies performance a falls dawn?)
Sreesanth 2(nothing of note with the ball from the showman).

We Are Number 1!!! wrote:England:

Strauss 7 (Should've got a ton, only 1 in 30 odd innings)
Cook 9 (I'm a tad harsh but 300 was soo close!)
Bell 5 (Looked in decent nick but got a ripper)
Pietersen 6 (Set for another 200, but lost the plot and fell to his pal Kumar)
Morgan 8 (decent innings, but has to stop giving catching practice!)
Bopara 1 (unlucky with the bat, pretty poor fielding, but got a catch)
Prior 3 (tried to get on with it with the bat, missing a stumping of Swanny)
Bresnan 8 (magic ball to Dravid, solid 50, solid player)
Broad 7 (got Sehwag and Tendulkar, happy days)
Swann 3 (got Raina and Mishra, but got smashed by Kumar)
Anderson 9 (basically won the match this morning)

India

Sehwag 1 (no runs, unfit, plus side took a catch)
Gambhir 4 (gets starts and gets out)
Dravid 2 (shocking dropped catches, out to a ripper in first innings)
Tendulkar 4 (poor shot first innings, unlucky second innings)
Laxman 4 (Poor shot first innings, hates fielding)
Raina 1 (not Test class)
Dhoni 8 (stand out by miles. fought in both innings)
Mishra 3 (3 wickets but no control and soo many no balls)
Kumar 8 (bowled well and very economical. batted well)
Sharma 1 (missing Khan)
Sreesanth 1 (clown)

ridiclius no matter how close he was, cooky deserved to get a 10, i bet u havent scored 294

cricketfan90 wrote:

We Are Number 1!!! wrote:England:

Strauss 7 (Should've got a ton, only 1 in 30 odd innings)
Cook 9 (I'm a tad harsh but 300 was soo close!)
Bell 5 (Looked in decent nick but got a ripper)
Pietersen 6 (Set for another 200, but lost the plot and fell to his pal Kumar)
Morgan 8 (decent innings, but has to stop giving catching practice!)
Bopara 1 (unlucky with the bat, pretty poor fielding, but got a catch)
Prior 3 (tried to get on with it with the bat, missing a stumping of Swanny)
Bresnan 8 (magic ball to Dravid, solid 50, solid player)
Broad 7 (got Sehwag and Tendulkar, happy days)
Swann 3 (got Raina and Mishra, but got smashed by Kumar)
Anderson 9 (basically won the match this morning)

India

Sehwag 1 (no runs, unfit, plus side took a catch)
Gambhir 4 (gets starts and gets out)
Dravid 2 (shocking dropped catches, out to a ripper in first innings)
Tendulkar 4 (poor shot first innings, unlucky second innings)
Laxman 4 (Poor shot first innings, hates fielding)
Raina 1 (not Test class)
Dhoni 8 (stand out by miles. fought in both innings)
Mishra 3 (3 wickets but no control and soo many no balls)
Kumar 8 (bowled well and very economical. batted well)
Sharma 1 (missing Khan)
Sreesanth 1 (clown)

ridiclius no matter how close he was, cooky deserved to get a 10, i bet u havent scored 294

So your saying if he had of got another 6 more runs he would of got a 10? More than a tad harsh

TSC wrote:England

Alistair Cook- 9 (It would have been 10 had he scored 6 more runs)
Andrew Strauss- 7 (Would have been 8 had he scored 13 more runs)
Ian Bell- 6
Kevin Pietersen- 7
Eoin Morgan- 7
Ravi Bopara- 0
Matt Prior- 6
Tim Bresnan- 8
Stuart Broad- 8
Graeme Swann- 6 (Bad day at the office but chipped in with 2)
James Anderson- 9 (Proves he is the best swing bowler in the world by a mile at the moment)

India

Gautam Gambhir- 5
Virender Sehwag- 0 (Most meaningless contribution in 2 batting innings ever?)
Rahul Dravid- 4
Sachin Tendulkar- 6 (That second innings run out was so unlucky)
VVS Laxman- 2 (Poor attitude during England's innings)
Suresh Raina- 2
MS Dhoni- 9 (The keeping wasn't great but the batting was great and provided entertainment)
Amit Mishra- 5
Praveen Kumar- 6 (Best bowler, kept things reasonably tight)
Ishant Sharma- 2
Sreesanth- 1 (I was going to give him a 2 but I really hate that haircut)

Hang on. Dhoni 9, Cook 9??? Cook scored double the runs in half the innings. Perhaps you thought Dhoni deserved extra marks for the stylish way in which he led his team to defeat by an innings and 200-odd runs?

And Tendulkar 6, Morgan 7? Tendulkar scored 1 and 40, Morgan 104. Add to the fact that Tendulkar was a liability in the field.

And while Praveen Kumar may not have been the worst of India's bowlers, I'm not sure how 2-98 warrants a 6, good economy rate or no.

Gregers wrote:Right, after catching up on all the action I can honestly say it was a rubbish test match. Really boring.

Ratings:

Andrew Strauss: 7 - A start but should have converted
Ian Bell: 7 - Should have converted
KP: 6 - Should have converted and should have bowled a bit more than he did
Eoin Morgan: 7 - Easiest century of all time against India who seamed to have given up. Still not convinced about him at test level

Kumar: 8 - Probably the only indian head not to drop, had some fun with the bat

Bell, who scored 34, gets the same as Morgan, who scored a century, and more than KP, who got 63. Meanwhile, some decent lower order hitting from Kumar makes up for the fact that he finished with bowling figures of 2 for 98.

I don't see how any bowler on the receiving end of 710-7 dec. gets above a 4.

Gregers wrote:I found Cook's innings boring.

Anderson managed not to send me to sleep

Really? Basing an innings on entertainment? Surely Chris Tavare would had warranted a 0 in every game he played, then?

And I take it you didn't know that Cook *did* accelerate, his SR going from 30 at the start of his innings to over 50? Not to mention he was scoring near KP's pace before KP got out.

cook shouldnt be docked points for strike rate there was still 2 and a bit days left why bat like crazy especially as india havent got to 300 yet in series!

England

Alistair Cook- 10: to give him less seems churlish.
Andrew Strauss- 8: Very important innings (particularly as Cook struggled to start with) to put England truly in command. captained the side well (tactically he's nothing special, but a very good man-manager).
Ian Bell- 5: batted loosely IMO, and I don't think the ball which got him was anything special.
Kevin Pietersen- 7: looked fantastic for a short time.
Eoin Morgan- 8: the guy has something about him. Ground out a century through sheer determination mainly.
Ravi Bopara- 2: came in in a no-win situation and duly lost. Poor fielder at this level.
Matt Prior- 4: kept well, didn't score any runs partly due to the situation.
Tim Bresnan- 8: his bowling on the first morning set it up for England, scored some useful runs and bowled well again in the 2nd innings. Making himself undropable.
Stuart Broad- 7.5: bowled well, fielded well.
Graeme Swann- 4: didn't seem to have a response when India got after him.
James Anderson- 8: a bit below par in the first innings I thought, but boy what a performance in the 2nd!

India

Gautam Gambhir- 4: keeps getting himself in, then getting out to loose shots.
Virender Sehwag- 0: I was kinda thinking along the lines of Boycott's defence, then I remember the unspeakable way he got out in the 2nd innings.
Rahul Dravid- 4: got great balls in both innings, but loses a mark for two poor drops.
Sachin Tendulkar- 4: sorry, but a terrible shot in the first innings. Played ok in 2nd but there were plenty of loose shots in there as well, before getting out in the unluckiest of ways.
VVS Laxman- 3: didn't seem up for the fight, either with the bat or in the field.
Suresh Raina- 2: gets those for his bowling, he's not test class (yet?) with the bat.
MS Dhoni- 6: 8 for his batting, -1 for keeping, -1 for captaincy.
Amit Mishra- 4: too much around the wicket too early to the left-handers, but looked a better bet than Harbajhan. Not sure he can do much better though. How many no-balls? That was ridiculous.
Praveen Kumar- 7: India's best bowler again by a street and batted well in both innings.
Ishant Sharma- 2: didn't look like getting a wicket.
Sreesanth- 1: ditto.

Mike
Largely agree with those, but think you are being generous to Sreesanth in particular, who surely meritted a 0?

Thought Sharma at least produced some threatening deliveries even if he ended up with nothing to show for them, but Sreesanth just looked like cannon fodder - I'd have fancied batting against him, and I haven't played seriously for 20 years.

Oh, and Sehwag surely has to receive a negative rating as a front line batsman bagging a king pair. OK, he hasn't had enough match practice over the last few months, but even so that was the definition of abject failure.

I just noticed that Sehwag is only the 13th player to ever get a king pair in tests, the 12th was Ryan Harris ....Anderson was involved in both.

Im assuming that makes him the first ever bowler to be take a wicket in two test king pairs.

not even sure why yuvraj got picked for the indian squad.

he isnt a test player at all

DH,

Fair, I have edited Sreesanth down to a 1. Which he gets for his batting.

I don't deal with negative marks. Shewag does have some extenuating circumstances and got a good ball in the first innings. But dear me, that shot he played in the 2nd...

I think Pujara is a good player, but India are definitely going to struggle when they lose those big 3 in the middle order. Raina, Yuvraj look out of their depth, Kohli had a nightmare in the West Indies, Rohit Sharma isn't fit enough...

Mike Selig wrote:England

Alistair Cook- 10: to give him less seems churlish.
Andrew Strauss- 8: Very important innings (particularly as Cook struggled to start with) to put England truly in command. captained the side well (tactically he's nothing special, but a very good man-manager).
Ian Bell- 5: batted loosely IMO, and I don't think the ball which got him was anything special.Kevin Pietersen- 7: looked fantastic for a short time.
Eoin Morgan- 8: the guy has something about him. Ground out a century through sheer determination mainly.
Ravi Bopara- 2: came in in a no-win situation and duly lost. Poor fielder at this level.
Matt Prior- 4: kept well, didn't score any runs partly due to the situation.
Tim Bresnan- 8: his bowling on the first morning set it up for England, scored some useful runs and bowled well again in the 2nd innings. Making himself undropable.
Stuart Broad- 7.5: bowled well, fielded well.
Graeme Swann- 4: didn't seem to have a response when India got after him.
James Anderson- 8: a bit below par in the first innings I thought, but boy what a performance in the 2nd!

India

Gautam Gambhir- 4: keeps getting himself in, then getting out to loose shots.
Virender Sehwag- 0: I was kinda thinking along the lines of Boycott's defence, then I remember the unspeakable way he got out in the 2nd innings.
Rahul Dravid- 4: got great balls in both innings, but loses a mark for two poor drops.
Sachin Tendulkar- 4: sorry, but a terrible shot in the first innings. Played ok in 2nd but there were plenty of loose shots in there as well, before getting out in the unluckiest of ways.
VVS Laxman- 3: didn't seem up for the fight, either with the bat or in the field.
Suresh Raina- 2: gets those for his bowling, he's not test class (yet?) with the bat.
MS Dhoni- 6: 8 for his batting, -1 for keeping, -1 for captaincy.
Amit Mishra- 4: too much around the wicket too early to the left-handers, but looked a better bet than Harbajhan. Not sure he can do much better though. How many no-balls? That was ridiculous.
Praveen Kumar- 7: India's best bowler again by a street and batted well in both innings.
Ishant Sharma- 2: didn't look like getting a wicket.
Sreesanth- 1: ditto.

Are you for real? It was an absolute jaffa, pitching middle and seaming to hit off. Bell played the line of the ball, and could have done nothing about that.

I think you exaggerate. It straightened a bit but nothing like what you make out. Bell was looking for runs and played out in front of his pad (and indeed overbalanced as you can see by where his feet ended up) a bit like Michael Clarke was doing during the ashes. IMO had he been in a more settled frame of mind he would have played it a lot later and been able to adjust to the movement.

I like Bell a lot and he's had a great series to date. Just thought he was a bit off colour during his innings in this test.

I agree that once the platform was there the England players, bar Cook, played loosely. There was an element of hurry up whilst he was playing the Trott rock.
So theres two ways of looking at it, he wasnt fully concentrating and desrves to be marked down, or he played as asked by looking to push the scorng rate. I think the realisty for Bell and Pietersen is somehwer between, they were both looking to score and being a bit too relaxed.

no way does deserve to marke down no matter the situation, 294 is a very special innings!!