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Post by Commander Fri 09 Sep 2011, 10:55 pm

The use of steroids (or other such PEDs) is often debated on here, especially concerning two very famous current welterweights (naming no names Very Happy).

However, my question is this.. does past steroid use tarnish your view of active pugilists who test clean right now? (Furthermore, is 'one-time' PED use considered 'okay' compared to continual use?).

For example, Shane Moseley and Vitali Klitschko - the latter having admitted it in his autobiography (that he used steroids for an 'injury' but was disgraced by being thrown out of the Ukrainian boxing team).

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Post by paul12342 Fri 09 Sep 2011, 10:59 pm

All PED is bad whats the point in competing if you cheating?

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Post by Scottrf Fri 09 Sep 2011, 11:00 pm

Yes (No).

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Post by Commander Fri 09 Sep 2011, 11:02 pm

So if Vitali used steroids back then how can we ever trust him again? (with the emergence of virually undetectable 'designer' PEDs)

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Post by Strongback Sat 10 Sep 2011, 3:57 am

They are usiNg EPO.

Any man that uses drugs to beat another man to death should be jailed.

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Post by eddyfightfan Sat 10 Sep 2011, 8:43 am

i didnt know that about vitali, i agree with strongback, boxing more so than other sports can be fatal, and enhancing your ability unnaturally to hurt somebody is wrong, and should be classed as manslaughter should they die in the ring. that is not even mentioning the extra punishment the fighter actually on steriods can sustain.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 11 Sep 2011, 7:52 pm

How can steroids enhance your ability????

It can help you bulk up to say heavy from cruiser or from say super-fly to welter...

But it doesn't help you box...or help you in your capacity to take a shot to the jaw.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 11 Sep 2011, 7:55 pm

But they allow you to train for a longer period of time and get fitter faster... there's a reason why they're banned!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 11 Sep 2011, 7:56 pm

Doesn't help you box though..

Have dabbled in the past...

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 11 Sep 2011, 7:56 pm

But Truss, if it helps you train to get into better shape then you should in theory be in a better position to tweak your skill.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 11 Sep 2011, 8:00 pm

Exactly Balti, perhaps you don't become better at understanding your opponents or throw a jab better, but come on they are a cheat to get you into better shape! Therefore making you stronger and possibly faster...

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 11 Sep 2011, 8:03 pm

Talking about fundamentals....footwork, slipping shots, technique....

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Post by Steffan Sun 11 Sep 2011, 8:06 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Have dabbled in the past...

Truss the roider Laugh

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 11 Sep 2011, 8:07 pm

Doesn't help you with that no Truss, but a lot of the other things, like I don't know the physical aspect of the game!?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 11 Sep 2011, 8:12 pm

Apart from heavy..the more you take the heavier you get so you go from a big welter to an un-natural middle etc..what you gain on one hand you lose on an other..

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 11 Sep 2011, 8:20 pm

Truss, if you're able to heal quicker and train harder then you should be able to spend more time practicing the fundamentals and fine-tuning. While steroids don't directly improve performance they can improve the circumstances under which a person trains, spars, etc.

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Post by trottb Sun 11 Sep 2011, 8:24 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

Have dabbled in the past...

Explains a lot Truss did it shrink other areas?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 11 Sep 2011, 8:32 pm

Hard work... with or without steroids. Steroids don't make you big the hard work does!!!!

Bulking up is only good for heavies..

My man sausage needed shrinking..

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 11 Sep 2011, 9:16 pm

To be honest with you like I said, there is a reason it's banned...

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