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Post by legendkillar Sun 13 Nov 2011, 8:43 pm

Well England are on there way to Euro 2012. The draw is under 3 weeks away. Now there is plenty of time between now and when the tournament begins on June 8th next year. So now guys who makes the final 23 for you? Who would you take? Any gambles? Any comebacks? 5 Strikers or 4? If I had to pick the 23, this would be mine

GK - Hart
GK - Ruddy
GK - Carson

Def - Johnson
Def - Walker
Def - Terry
Def - Jagielka
Def - Jones
Def - Smalling
Def - Cole
Def - Taylor

Mid - Parker
Mid - Milner
Mid - Gerrard
Mid - Wilshere
Mid - Young
Mid - Rodwell
Mid - Lampard
Mid - Walcott

Fwd - Rooney
Fwd - Bent
Fwd - Welbeck
Fwd - Sturridge
Fwd - Wickham

Close calls

GK - Green

Def - Ferdinand
Def - Lescott

Mid - Downing
Mid - Barry

Fwd - Carroll
Fwd - Defoe

That for me would be my squad. Who would make your final 23?

For me Wickham would be a surprise package and I would hope that he would be much better used than Walcott was at the 2006 World Cup. Ferdinand for me has lost too much pace and think out of him and Terry, Terry is tactically smarter.

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Post by Gregers Sun 13 Nov 2011, 8:45 pm

Think you're about spot on, Wickham probably not tho I'd presume Defoe will go.

And Micah Richards should be in it as well

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Post by Guest Sun 13 Nov 2011, 9:00 pm

As in Steven Taylor?!

GK: Joe Hart(24), David Stockdale(26), Frank Fielding(23)
DEF: Kyle Walker(21), Glen Johnson(27), Ashley Cole(30), Leighton Baines(26), John Terry(30), Phil Jagielka(29), Phil Jones(19), Joleon Lescott(29)
MID: Scott Parker(31), Frank Lampard(33), Jack Rodwell(20), Jack Wilshere(19), Theo Walcott(22), Ashley Young(26), James Milner(25), Adam Johnson(24)
STR: Wayne Rooney(26), Darren Bent(27), Daniel Sturridge(22), Danny Welbeck(20)

Easy to see who we disagree on.

I've seen Wickham a few times now, including at U21 level, and I'm struggling to see why he's rated? Plus he's your 24th player and the squad's made up of 23...


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Post by Fernando Sun 13 Nov 2011, 9:12 pm

my 23 would look like this

Hart
Green
Ruddy

Johnson
Richards
Terry
Cahill
Jagielka
Lescott
Baines
A.Cole

Walcott
Young
Parker
Lampard
Gerrard
Wilshere
Milner

Rooney
Bent
Agbonlahor
Sturridge

Think its 23 cba to count tbh if 1 under add Adam Johnson , If 1 over remove Gerrard

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Post by Luke Wed 16 Nov 2011, 8:44 pm

At the moment though could change in 5 months.

Hart
Stockdale
Fielding as Keepers

Jagielka
Richards
Lescott
Cahill
Cole
Jones
Walker as the defenders

Parker
Wilshere
Young
Gerrard
Milner
Rodwell
Cleverley in midfield

Rooney
Defoe
Bent
Sturridge
Zamora as strikers.
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Post by taffy_crisp Wed 16 Nov 2011, 9:10 pm

Hart Carson Robinson/stockdale

Walker Richards Terry Smalling
Jones Cole Cahill Jagielka

Walcott Milner Wilshire Cleverley
Young Parker Rodwell Johnson and one of Gerrard or Lampard

Rooney Bent Welbeck Sturridge

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 17 Nov 2011, 9:48 am

Agree almost entirely with the above. Would take Carroll ahead of Wickham though and would prefer to drop Gerrard if possible but Barry and Downing are not good enough alternatives to do so. Maybe Cleverly at a push though he probably wouldn't start and doesn't have enough to make an impact off the bench. Maybe Oxlade-Chamberlain instead...??

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Post by dancingweeman Thu 17 Nov 2011, 10:14 am

If everyone was fully fit and it was to be picked now...

Hart, Carson, Stockdale

Cole, Richards, Baines, Walker, Jones, Cahill, Jagielka, Terry

Wilshere, Parker, Gerrard, Barry, Lampard, Walcott, Young, Johnson

Rooney, Sturridge, Bent, Welbeck

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Post by sportform Fri 18 Nov 2011, 12:18 am

I would go:-

Hart, Carson, Fielding

Richards, Cahill, Jones, Cole
Walker, Smalling, Terry, Baines

Gerrard, Parker, Barry
Lampard, Wilshere, Milner

A. Jonhson, A Young

Rooney, Carroll, Welbeck, Walcott
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Post by Kay Fabe Fri 18 Nov 2011, 8:07 pm

GK - Hart, Stockdale, Ruddy

RB - Richards
LB - Cole, Baines
CB - Terry, Jagielka, Smalling, Cahill

RB/CB/CM - Jones

CM - Wilshire, Parker, Lampard
CM/RM - Gerrard
RM - Walcott
LM - Young
RM/LM - Johnson

FWD - Rooney, Sturridge
STK - Bent, Defoe, Zamora

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Post by adambarney Wed 22 Feb 2012, 12:35 pm

gk hart
carson
stockdale

def walker
richards
jones
smalling
lescott
cahill
cole

mid chamberlin
johnson
wilshere
parker
gerrard
rodwell
young
lennon

fow rooney
welbeck
sturridge
bent
zamora


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Post by Guest Wed 22 Feb 2012, 1:07 pm

Hart
Green
Carson

Johnson
Cole
Cahill
Ferdinand
Walker
Richards
Lescott
jagielka

Walcott
Young
Barry
Gerrard
Milner
Johnson
Rodwell
Jones

Rooney
Sturridge
Wellbeck
Crouch

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Post by nasisillmatic Wed 22 Feb 2012, 1:13 pm

GK - Hart
GK - Foster
GK - Stockdale

Def - G Johnson
Def - Richards
Def - Terry
Def - Ferdinand
Def - Jones
Def - Lescott
Def - Cole
Def - Baines

Mid - Parker
Mid - Milner
Mid - Gerrard
Mid - Wilshere
Mid - Young
Mid - A Johnson
Mid - Chamberlin
Mid - Downing

Fwd - Rooney
Fwd - Bent
Fwd - Welbeck
Fwd - Sturridge
Fwd - Carroll

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Post by nasisillmatic Wed 22 Feb 2012, 1:16 pm

GK - Hart
GK - Foster
GK - Stockdale

Def - G Johnson
Def - Richards
Def - Terry
Def - Ferdinand
Def - Jones
Def - Lescott
Def - Cole
Def - Baines

Mid - Parker
Mid - Milner
Mid - Gerrard
Mid - Wilshere
Mid - Young
Mid - A Johnson
Mid - Chamberlin
Mid - Downing

Fwd - Rooney
Fwd - Bent
Fwd - Welbeck
Fwd - Sturridge
Fwd - Carroll

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Post by Crimey Wed 22 Feb 2012, 10:40 pm

Mine based on current form would probably be:

GK - Joe Hart 1
GK - David Stockdale 13
GK - Scott Carson 23

Def - Richards 12
Def - Johnson 2
Def - Dawson 5
Def - Jagielka 6
Def - Lescott 15
Def - Cole 3
Def - Baines 16

Mid - Gerrard 8
Mid - Wilshere (may be injured right now, but I would still take him) 11
Mid - Parker 4
Mid - Young 7
Mid - Milner 18
Mid - Lennon 17
Mid - Walcott 14

ST - Rooney 10
ST - Bent 9
ST - Sturridge 20
ST - Welbeck 21
ST - Carroll 22

The only players I would definetely take though are Joe Hart, Wayne Rooney, Scott Parker and Ashley Cole. All the others I think could easily lose their place.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 22 Feb 2012, 10:47 pm

Why has nobody given Grant Holt a mention. He is the 3rd highest English scoring striker in the Premier League this season. If Zamora and Carroll get in why does Holt not??
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Post by Crimey Wed 22 Feb 2012, 11:00 pm

ollyrules wrote:Why has nobody given Grant Holt a mention. He is the 3rd highest English scoring striker in the Premier League this season. If Zamora and Carroll get in why does Holt not??

One of the main issues is that he isn't playing with any other England internationals, it's one of the reasons I wouldn't be so keen on Zamora. I think there has to be some kind of link between the players otherwises the team may not be as cohesive as it could be.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 22 Feb 2012, 11:20 pm

Crimey wrote:
ollyrules wrote:Why has nobody given Grant Holt a mention. He is the 3rd highest English scoring striker in the Premier League this season. If Zamora and Carroll get in why does Holt not??

One of the main issues is that he isn't playing with any other England internationals, it's one of the reasons I wouldn't be so keen on Zamora. I think there has to be some kind of link between the players otherwises the team may not be as cohesive as it could be.

But not many players play in the same team, unlike Spain who have Barca and Real players aplenty. Holt scores goals, what more do you want?
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Post by Crimey Wed 22 Feb 2012, 11:24 pm

ollyrules wrote:
Crimey wrote:
ollyrules wrote:Why has nobody given Grant Holt a mention. He is the 3rd highest English scoring striker in the Premier League this season. If Zamora and Carroll get in why does Holt not??

One of the main issues is that he isn't playing with any other England internationals, it's one of the reasons I wouldn't be so keen on Zamora. I think there has to be some kind of link between the players otherwises the team may not be as cohesive as it could be.

But not many players play in the same team, unlike Spain who have Barca and Real players aplenty. Holt scores goals, what more do you want?

The point is they are familiar with each other, or at least parts of a team to a certain extent.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 22 Feb 2012, 11:35 pm

Crimey wrote:
ollyrules wrote:
Crimey wrote:
ollyrules wrote:Why has nobody given Grant Holt a mention. He is the 3rd highest English scoring striker in the Premier League this season. If Zamora and Carroll get in why does Holt not??

One of the main issues is that he isn't playing with any other England internationals, it's one of the reasons I wouldn't be so keen on Zamora. I think there has to be some kind of link between the players otherwises the team may not be as cohesive as it could be.

But not many players play in the same team, unlike Spain who have Barca and Real players aplenty. Holt scores goals, what more do you want?

The point is they are familiar with each other, or at least parts of a team to a certain extent.

I understand that but if it was true we would never have any new players and be stuck with the same old tripe all the time. I also think Danny Graham deserves a look in as well.
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Post by Riggs Thu 17 May 2012, 7:12 pm

Have you seen the msn England line-up article? By a guy called Iain and...........boy oh boy is he negative!

Yes the England golden generation never quite achieved it yet however he doesn't mention that English players are plentiful and our St Georges Park will bring even more through the ranks.

So I say go on England, be brave, be respectful but do NOT fear anyone! Don't stick to any one position, experiment! Play and score more than our opposition.

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