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Post by prostaff85 Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:35 pm

606v2 World Tour 2012!

I thought it’d be fun to organise an ”official” competition during 2012 where 606v2 members give their predictions for Grand Slam- and Masters 1000 events. Obviously we’re all experts here, but it would be interesting to see who is actually the most knowledgeable expert    Very Happy

The concept is as follows:

  • Predict the quarter-, semi- and finalists plus the winner of  Grand Slam and Masters 1000 events in 2012
  • For each Grand Slam quarter-finalist: 10 points (8x 10 = 80 points maximum)
  • For each Grand Slam semi-finalist: 90 points (4x 90 = 360 points maximum)
  • For each Grand Slam finalist: 380 points (2x 380 = 760 points maximum)
  • For a Grand Slam winner: 800 points
  • So a perfectly predicted Grand Slam gives you 2000 points!
  • For Masters 1000 tournaments: same logic but only half the points of a Grand Slam

Predictions to be submitted on 606v2 (for each event I will open a thread) latest by 22:00 GMT on the Saturday before each tournament starts (deadline reminders will be posted). So you have time to study the draws!
A YTD "world ranking" will be maintained and published by prostaff85 after each event.
No prize money, we play for the honour of being a true expert!

Below is an example of the type of table I will publish after each Grand Slam and Masters 1000 event of 2012.

Would be great if many of you participate on the "606v2 World Tour"!


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Novak Djokovic
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1000
0
1000
1000
720
2000
1000
600
2000
0
180
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Rafael Nadal
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360
600
600
1000
600
600
2000
1200
0
180
1200
0
0
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Andy Murray
6260
1200
0
0
360
0
360
720
720
0
1000
720
1000
180
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Roger Federer
5440
720
360
360
180
360
0
1200
360
0
180
720
0
1000
5
David Ferrer
2460
720
0
180
600
180
0
0
0
0
0
0
600
180
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Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
2040
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
720
360
0
360
0
600
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Tomas Berdych
1800
360
0
180
0
180
180
0
0
180
360
0
0
360
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Mardy Fish
1680
0
0
360
0
0
0
0
360
600
360
0
0
0
9
Janko Tipsarevic
720
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
360
0
360
0
0
10
Nicolas Almagro
180
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
180
0
0
0
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Post by Guest Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:48 pm

I'm in OK

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Post by legendkillar Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:55 pm

Good man Prostaff OK

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Post by Tenez Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:12 pm

Great idea!

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Post by bogbrush Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:16 pm

Brilliant stuff. I'm in.
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Post by carrieg4 Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:40 pm

I'm in too.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:46 pm

awesome.

I will win

Eraldeen will finish at the bottom

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Post by noleisthebest Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:06 pm

"but it would be interesting to see who is actually the most knowledgeable expert Very Happy "

Don't you know who's the only person who knew Nole was the best 4 years ago?

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Post by Tenez Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:42 pm

noleisthebest wrote:"but it would be interesting to see who is actually the most knowledgeable expert Very Happy "

Don't you know who's the only person who knew Nole was the best 4 years ago?

Yes but you were wrong 3 years out of 4! Wink

I predicted Nole's year in September 2010. king

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Post by Calder106 Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:55 pm

I'm in.

Can you clarify though will I still get the points if my prediction comes in and others deem that it is not deserved as the other player were not really trying. Whistle

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Post by laverfan Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:26 pm

With all these experts in the race, I have no chance.

WTF, I will still give it a try.

Prostaff85 Hug for volunteering to be the TD for the entire year. Very Happy

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Post by carrieg4 Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:27 am

Calder106 wrote:I'm in.

Can you clarify though will I still get the points if my prediction comes in and others deem that it is not deserved as the other player were not really trying. Whistle

Laugh clap

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Post by prostaff85 Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:43 am

Calder106 wrote:I'm in.

Can you clarify though will I still get the points if my prediction comes in and others deem that it is not deserved as the other player were not really trying. Whistle

Good point! I guess if we need to wait for consensus whether certain results should be devalued, I will never be able to publish the rankings! Let's take all results at face value!
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Post by prostaff85 Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:07 am

Just a quick status update: so far we have 10 members that have indicated they'll join the competition. Great!
But usually Grand Slams have 128 participants Smile

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In January I'll open a thread where you can post your AO 2012 predictions. Of course you are free to elaborate on your view, or include disclaimers, but the following short format will suffice:

W Djokovic; RU Nadal; losing SFs Federer+Murray; losing QFs Ferrer+Tsonga+Berdych+Fish
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Post by Jeremy_Kyle Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:11 am

Hello

I am in as well Smile
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Post by Guest Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:42 am

Rank 10th - Y I Man

That sounds about right Laugh

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Post by JuliusHMarx Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:56 am

I might just predict the same results for every tournament - just to see if that is more successful than other people choosing different results.
Plus, it saves time!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:21 am

I'll give it a go Very Happy

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Post by noleisthebest Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:27 am

eeeerm...I didn't say I'd do it.....don't even know what I need to do Run

I just read the requirements, never been my cup of tea, but why not, I'll give it a try Very Happy

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Post by prostaff85 Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:38 am

noleisthebest wrote:Don't you know who's the only person who knew Nole was the best 4 years ago?

Sorry, I jumped to conclusions based on that statement - thought this must be a piece of cake for you!

You don't need to predict results right now, but only shortly before the start of each tournament (deadlines on the Saturday before each event kicks off, @22:00 GMT, so you have time to study the draw).

Would be great if you'd join!
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Post by lydian Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:39 pm

go on lump me in....
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Post by gallery play Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:52 pm

I'm in

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Post by banbrotam Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:09 pm

I'm in. Even though I criticise those who make predictions Rolling Eyes

That makes me a hypocrite

No change there then!! Wink

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Post by LuvSports! Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:03 am

can i join please Smile

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Post by prostaff85 Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:34 am

LuvSports! wrote:can i join please Smile

Most certainly! Just keep an eye on 606v2 - I'll open a new thread for the AO predictions in January!
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Post by laverfan Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:36 pm

banbrotam wrote:I'm in. Even though I criticise those who make predictions Rolling Eyes

That makes me a hypocrite

No change there then!! Wink

That is ironic and funny, BanBro. Wink

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Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:58 pm

Very impressive formating and tabulating from prostaff85 thumbsup

Including all the Masters in with the slam tournaments will be a mighty test of everyones commitment to this competition throughout the year.

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Post by prostaff85 Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:14 pm

Thanks. Unlike on the ATP World Tour, the events are not mandatory. However, skipping events reduces your chances of finishing the year as "world number 1"!
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Post by laverfan Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:25 pm

Nore Staat wrote:Very impressive formating and tabulating from prostaff85 thumbsup

Including all the Masters in with the slam tournaments will be a mighty test of everyones commitment to this competition throughout the year.

I only do well in the Clay season, yet I want to be #1. Laugh

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Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:19 pm

Reading through the rules, this is probably one of the best year round competitions I have seen - it only requires a single effort at the start of the tournament rather than say having to come up with something each round as the tournament progresses.

That said I would prefer to enter on an ad hoc, per tournament basis, than commit to the whole year at the present time. Might I suggest you add two additional columns to the competition "table", "number of Grand Slams entered" and "number of Master tournaments entered" or something similar to suggest participation level.

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Post by prostaff85 Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:34 pm

Nore Staat wrote:That said I would prefer to enter on an ad hoc, per tournament basis, than commit to the whole year at the present time.

No need to commit for the whole year. However, skipping events means you can earn less points, just like joining the competition only midway through the season.
So you might win some Grand Slams but still miss out on the #1 ranking!

Nore Staat wrote:Might I suggest you add two additional columns to the competition "table", "number of Grand Slams entered" and "number of Master tournaments entered" or something similar to suggest participation level.

Yes that's a good suggestion. It's actually just like the real ATP rankings where the number of tournaments played is shown!
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:47 pm

Okay I'll probably have a go for the AO 2012 Ok!.

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Post by Positively 4th Street Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:31 pm

Count me in - good inititative prostaff!

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Post by prostaff85 Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:39 am

We have 19 members that have shown interest in the competition so far! Just to be clear: there's actually no need to register in advance, you can participate "on the fly" by submitting your predictions before the deadline for an event.

I don't know how others feel about it, but I think the off-season is way too long now - I can't wait for the new season to start! Smile

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Post by prostaff85 Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:38 am

Happy New Year to all!

Just pulling this topic to the top for improved visibility. In less than two weeks time I will open a thread for the AO 2012 predictions. Please remember to log on to 606v2 around that time to submit yours before the deadline.
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:51 pm

yeah baby.. i'm ready to win Yahoo

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Post by laverfan Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:02 pm

prostaff85 wrote:
I don't know how others feel about it, but I think the off-season is way too long now - I can't wait for the new season to start! Smile

For the spectators, perhaps the gap is too long, but players have wanted longer breaks. Erm

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Post by Fernando Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:40 pm

If it's not to late id like to join in Smile poor knowledge of tennis but a great guesser OK

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Post by prostaff85 Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:07 pm

Great if you join, welcome fernando!

First predictions to be submitted just before the AO starts.
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Post by Fernando Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:57 pm

Ill keep an eye out for it do you post the draw up cos otherwise im most likely to put people against each other who can't play each other Laugh

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Post by time please Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:58 am

Hey prostaff - would love to join in, great initiative by you.

I am away before the beginning of AO and possibly unlikely to have internet access for at least majority of the time - can I pm you my predictions early next week?

Otherwise, would love to join in for furture tournaments.

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Post by prostaff85 Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:06 pm

time please wrote:Hey prostaff - would love to join in, great initiative by you.

I am away before the beginning of AO and possibly unlikely to have internet access for at least majority of the time - can I pm you my predictions early next week?

Otherwise, would love to join in for furture tournaments.

Thanks TP! Let's do it so that you PM me your predictions early next week, and I will post these on the 'official' AO predictions thread just before the deadline. However, if you do find internet access during your trip, you can post them yourself in which case I won't use those preliminary predictions you PM'd. This would give you a chance to take a look at the draw first.
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Post by legendkillar Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:32 am

LF,

Could this made into a sticky?

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:44 am

Im just thinking about this and wondering if it would benefit from its own subsection within tennis?

The reason I mention this, is because there will be a predictions entry thread for each tournament as well as the table thread. (and possibly a results thread)
It will keep it all neat and tidy in one section instead of the threads disappearing off the first page.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:47 am

or maybe we could keep the "current thread" (ie the one of the ongoing tournament) as a sticky, then un-sticky it when the tournament is over (so it can drift away).

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:51 am

Thats possible.
Another alternative is to have the table in the op of an article and have all the predictions on that one thread for all competitions.
Like this: https://www.606v2.com/t16872-union-cane-s-prediction-league-season-3-final-results

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Post by prostaff85 Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:44 pm

How about if we keep the main thread (this one) as a sticky and let the threads for the individual tournaments "drift away"?
I changed the column titles for the events to hyperlinks, and these will then point to those tournament threads. This way we can easily find and re-read the predictions.

And maybe the thread for the tournament that's about to start or ongoing could be a 2nd sticky.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:51 pm

Sounds good to me. OK

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Post by legendkillar Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:29 pm

Aye bring it on. Smile

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Post by TopoftheChops Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:26 pm

I'm in!

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