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Post by Derbyblue Sun 18 Dec 2011, 8:52 pm

Looks like we won't be getting either the 16-0 Packers season or 0-16 Colts season.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 18 Dec 2011, 9:10 pm

Sad

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Post by Colan (niner) Sun 18 Dec 2011, 9:11 pm

I'm hping the vikes have a shot at the 1st overall pick. The colts have the texans at home and then go to jacksonville whereas the vikings have the bears and texans. not sure but if the vikings lose both and if indie even just won one of them so both teams had the same record, i think the vikings had a harder schedule and so could trade way the rights to luck for the lots

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Post by Derbyblue Sun 18 Dec 2011, 9:13 pm

I only caught the end of the Redskins @ Giants game, were the Redskins better than usual or the Giants worse than usual?

Now we get to hear them all attempt to prove they love Tebow the most.

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Post by adams_legend Sun 18 Dec 2011, 9:15 pm

What has happened to the green bay defence, they are giving up so much this seasons. I can see the saints beating them in the NFC championship

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 18 Dec 2011, 9:17 pm

adams_legend wrote:What has happened to the green bay defence, they are giving up so much this seasons. I can see the saints beating them in the NFC championship

yards not points... that said it really has been bad. simply cant stop anything for 90% of the game until it hits the redzone

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 18 Dec 2011, 9:18 pm

oh and apparently Tim Tebow is playing for the Broncos today against the Patriots if you haven't heard...

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Post by Colan (niner) Sun 18 Dec 2011, 9:19 pm

titans still have a shot a playoffs, just need to hope that the jets lose their last two and that the bengals lose one more

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Post by Derbyblue Sun 18 Dec 2011, 9:23 pm

I hate Tebow.

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Post by Derbyblue Sun 18 Dec 2011, 9:26 pm

I also don't like that rule should be 7-6 (if Pats had made the extra point).

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Post by RDuncan8 Sun 18 Dec 2011, 9:36 pm

Derbyblue wrote:I hate Tebow.

I love Tebow! Yahoo

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Post by CFCNick Sun 18 Dec 2011, 9:48 pm

I had to stop watching Gameday Morning because after every 4-5 different topics they had 2-3 Tebow stories. Even the reporter pre game at Arrowhead talked about Tebow for 3 minutes before mentioning the Chiefs or Packers.


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Post by RDuncan8 Mon 19 Dec 2011, 12:06 am

Penalties and turnovers absolutely ruining us this week.

Hopefully the Lions can put a last minute td to beat the raiders.

Might come down to the final week: Broncos v Chiefs, Raiders v Chargers

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Post by cherriesfna Mon 19 Dec 2011, 12:15 am

and seattles play-off hopes are dashed Sad
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Post by RDuncan8 Mon 19 Dec 2011, 12:22 am

Thank you Lions!

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Post by mikeygnfl Mon 19 Dec 2011, 1:02 am

This week has to be one of the strangest so far this season. Packers losing, colts winning, Bears losing, Texans losing, the 'Dream Team' actually finding some form.
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Post by bluestonevedder Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:45 am

Dom Capers has got some serious work to do regarding coverage. He hasn't given up points, but we're getting burned every game.

Can't just rely on the offense!

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Post by Derbyblue Mon 19 Dec 2011, 3:30 pm

Didn't realise how many yards the Packers give up on average, almost 400 yards (unless there is something wrong with NFL.com the Packers total yards on offense and defense are exactly the same) but still only 21.2 points against them a game.

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Post by twelve283 Mon 19 Dec 2011, 5:40 pm

Points are what's important at the end of the day. Compare Green Bay and New England for example: Here we have the two worst defenses in the NFL (in terms of yards given up) but both are only giving up 21.2 PPG which is T14 in the league. Keeping teams out of the endzone is the goal.

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Post by skins4ever Mon 19 Dec 2011, 5:46 pm

Derbyblue wrote:I only caught the end of the Redskins @ Giants game, were the Redskins better than usual or the Giants worse than usual

Manning had a pretty woeful game and the Giants failed to capitalise on Rex's 2 INT's. Skins managed to play solid D after Rex's last INT and the O managed to convert 2 red zone visits into TD's instead of screwing up as usual. It won't last, but its always nice to do over a divisional rival. Only wish we'd done this to the Cowboys and Eagles - divisional standings would be all but on their head now.

Suffice it to say I can't see the NFC East champion going deep into the playoffs at this rate.

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Post by Colan (niner) Mon 19 Dec 2011, 5:46 pm

exactly, the niners have that bend , but don't break attitude against teams who rely on passing the ball, it doesn't matter if a guy gets 400 yards but puts up 14 points

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Post by cherriesfna Mon 19 Dec 2011, 7:45 pm

NFL MIKE wrote:This week has to be one of the strangest so far this season. Packers losing, colts winning, Bears losing, Texans losing, the 'Dream Team' actually finding some form.

bears losing aint a shock, thye have no Offence and seattle are red hot ATM.
Pack losing is.
and the jets losing so badly made me chuckle,not cause the hate them, just rex ryan
T.Y Yates was gonna come crashingdown eventually
and the colts i have noo excuse for
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Post by Colan (niner) Tue 20 Dec 2011, 12:29 pm

niners D is easily the best in the NFL, they have proven it. I don't care if their qb was hurt, he still made some great throws, Aldon smith surely must be back in the run for droy, he has played less than half the snaps of von miller yet has more sacks, strips and impact plays.

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Post by cherriesfna Tue 20 Dec 2011, 12:31 pm

niner wrote:niners D is easily the best in the NFL, they have proven it. I don't care if their qb was hurt, he still made some great throws, Aldon smith surely must be back in the run for droy, he has played less than half the snaps of von miller yet has more sacks, strips and impact plays.

shame beast mode is gonna run over the niners D next week.

they will taste the rainbow!
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Post by Colan (niner) Tue 20 Dec 2011, 12:38 pm

like i have said before, the niners have a more talented team but games in seattle are tough. Lynch could get the first rushing td against us but he won't get over 60 yards, Aldon smith will get at least 3 sacks as well if he plays at the same level

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Post by cherriesfna Tue 20 Dec 2011, 12:48 pm

i am scared of your pass rush, with 3/5 of our O-line injured. dont think itll be high scoring, our D are no pushover, dont think either back will get near 100yrds,
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Post by Colan (niner) Tue 20 Dec 2011, 1:45 pm

your probably right, our offence is average and gore isnt 100%. The pass rush could be something special if the front 7 play the same way as last night. The other thing that could be a worry for you is goldson and whitner, particularly against smaller receivers as they are hitting really hard and putting fear into people going over the middle. I've not saw a lot of jackson but i know he can run around a bit and hopefully he will run into aldon smith, the gold standard. Our offense has so much potential but alex just misses receivers sometimes. Crabtree, if alex could throw the deep ball would have much better stats. It was a miracle that our o-line handled the pressure yesterday, they were embarassed by the ravens but didn't give the steelers anything.

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Post by mikeygnfl Tue 20 Dec 2011, 2:07 pm

I find it a little ironic that a game at Candlestick Park was delayed twice because of a power cut.
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Post by Colan (niner) Tue 20 Dec 2011, 2:54 pm

its because of their 'lights out' defense

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Post by TheBrownTown Tue 20 Dec 2011, 3:47 pm

niner wrote:niners D is easily the best in the NFL, they have proven it. I don't care if their qb was hurt, he still made some great throws, Aldon smith surely must be back in the run for droy, he has played less than half the snaps of von miller yet has more sacks, strips and impact plays.

I would still argue Von Miller for DROY, there's a reason Aldon Smith is only playing half the snaps and that's because he's not a complete player. Von Miller's been getting his sacks out of the 4/3 OLB position and he isn't rushing the passer on every down, he's been playing in run situations and he can play in pass coverage. Also take into consideration Von was injured for a week and played the last two games with a cast on his hand.

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Post by Colan (niner) Tue 20 Dec 2011, 4:08 pm

von miller is a beast, no doubt he will be an elite pass rusher for a long time but i think aldon smith has made more impact plays that have changed the momentum of the game, and to have the stats that he does after recovering from a broken leg not long ago and making the transition from a defensive end/tackle to 3/4 olb is special

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Post by TheBrownTown Tue 20 Dec 2011, 4:34 pm

Yeh Smith's done very well, it'll be a close battle between the two. I just hope people who vote look at more than just the number of sacks

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Post by Colan (niner) Tue 20 Dec 2011, 5:19 pm

i think the winner must be one of them, pp7 is good but it is only recently he has started dominating receivers, he was getting beaten badly until a few weeks ago. I'd be happy if von miller wins as i think he has been solid all year, he also has a good motor, smith has the strength and power that standout and that performance in a nationally televised game puts him on the map. Tebow time resulted in them being on tv a lot and that meant that people found out it was actually von miller who was their best young player, smith now had the same opportunity

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Post by cherriesfna Tue 20 Dec 2011, 10:53 pm

RICHARD SHERMAN laughing
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