Relegation Run-in
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Relegation Run-in
With seven matches still to go there is all to play for at the top of the table. With Quins virtually nailed on for a home play-off and Sarries (despite the loss yesterday) clear favourites for the second one, the competition is to see who will be facing them in the semis. Exeter, Gloucester, Sale & LI will all feel they are still in with a shout.
I will instead concentrate on the bottom 4 in this post.
Bath
30pts
Home semi in the LV against Tigers.
Home fixtures against Worcester, Saints & wasps.
Away fixtures against Exeter, Quins, Sale and Tigers.
The LV cup now looks like Bath's best hope of qualifying for the HC. They will struggle in those away fixtures and will need to win at least two of the home matches to avoid being dragged in to the relegation mire.
Should be safe.
Worcester
27pts
Home fixtures against Sarries, Falcons, Exeter & LI
Away fixtures against Bath, Leicester & Saints
Again tough away fixtures but will hop eto pick up points from a weakened Saracens team this Friday. If they follow that up with wins at the Rec and home to Falcons then end of season jitters will be banished.
Should be safe.
Wasps
23pts
Home 1/4 final against Biarritz in Amlin.
Home fixtures against LI, Gloucester and Falcons
Away fixtures against Sale, Sainst, Quins and Bath.
By the time Wasps face Biarritz they could be in a real relegation dog-fight. They mus secure two wins in teh 4 league matches, and as it is hard to see them winning at Sale or Northampton, that means beating Li AND Gloucester. Wasps will not want to be facing Falcons on the last weekend in a loser goes down match.
At real risk - need to start winning.
Falcons
17pts
home fixtures against Quins, Sale and Sarries
Away fixtures against Tigers, Worcester, Gloucester and Wasps
It is hard to see where the wins will come from to put real pressure on the teams above them. Falcons need to win one of their next two matche to get the ball rolling - away in Leicester will probably be tougher than a home Friday night game against runaway Leaders Quins. Both are still difficult.
Probably unable to put real pressure on Wasps - but should not be ruled out yet.
Overall I still feel that Falcons will go down. However it will be "squeaky bum time" in High wycombe for a while yet.
I will instead concentrate on the bottom 4 in this post.
Bath
30pts
Home semi in the LV against Tigers.
Home fixtures against Worcester, Saints & wasps.
Away fixtures against Exeter, Quins, Sale and Tigers.
The LV cup now looks like Bath's best hope of qualifying for the HC. They will struggle in those away fixtures and will need to win at least two of the home matches to avoid being dragged in to the relegation mire.
Should be safe.
Worcester
27pts
Home fixtures against Sarries, Falcons, Exeter & LI
Away fixtures against Bath, Leicester & Saints
Again tough away fixtures but will hop eto pick up points from a weakened Saracens team this Friday. If they follow that up with wins at the Rec and home to Falcons then end of season jitters will be banished.
Should be safe.
Wasps
23pts
Home 1/4 final against Biarritz in Amlin.
Home fixtures against LI, Gloucester and Falcons
Away fixtures against Sale, Sainst, Quins and Bath.
By the time Wasps face Biarritz they could be in a real relegation dog-fight. They mus secure two wins in teh 4 league matches, and as it is hard to see them winning at Sale or Northampton, that means beating Li AND Gloucester. Wasps will not want to be facing Falcons on the last weekend in a loser goes down match.
At real risk - need to start winning.
Falcons
17pts
home fixtures against Quins, Sale and Sarries
Away fixtures against Tigers, Worcester, Gloucester and Wasps
It is hard to see where the wins will come from to put real pressure on the teams above them. Falcons need to win one of their next two matche to get the ball rolling - away in Leicester will probably be tougher than a home Friday night game against runaway Leaders Quins. Both are still difficult.
Probably unable to put real pressure on Wasps - but should not be ruled out yet.
Overall I still feel that Falcons will go down. However it will be "squeaky bum time" in High wycombe for a while yet.
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Re: Relegation Run-in
The problem most people will have is comparing the old regime Falcons with the new regime Falcons.
Don't go on previous form.
If we can keep 15 men on the pitch for the majority of the games we should scare a few people.
I reckon the last game at Wasps could be a winner takes all - no sweat We've been there before.
Don't go on previous form.
If we can keep 15 men on the pitch for the majority of the games we should scare a few people.
I reckon the last game at Wasps could be a winner takes all - no sweat We've been there before.

TrailApe- Posts : 885
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Re: Relegation Run-in
I think Wasps are in deep trouble. You look at their fixtures and you can't see a win come from any of them. Whereas I can see Falcons sneaking 2 wins in that run in. Therefore, Wasps best chance of staying up is to nick a few LBP here and there.
Either way, what are the chances that the bottom team will actually be relegated?...
Either way, what are the chances that the bottom team will actually be relegated?...
HongKongCherry- Posts : 3297
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Re: Relegation Run-in
Do all the teams looking for promotion fill the stadia criteria etc?
Could we do an escape again?
Could we do an escape again?
Geordie- Posts : 26671
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Re: Relegation Run-in
GeordieFalcon wrote:Do all the teams looking for promotion fill the stadia criteria etc?
Could we do an escape again?
There was a discussion on this a few weeks ago and nobody seems to know!! I know Cornish Pirates have deferred their new stadium, so they're definitely not able to go up. From my understanding of the current top 8 only Bristol, Nottingham and Leeds can go up.
HongKongCherry- Posts : 3297
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Hhmmmm interesting.
I do think if we escape through that route again...(aside from being harsh on the championship teams) we would be a different proposition next season....
I do think if we escape through that route again...(aside from being harsh on the championship teams) we would be a different proposition next season....
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I thought Cornish Pirates had a deal with Plymouth Albion for a short term ground share in case of promotion?
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formerly known as Sam wrote:I thought Cornish Pirates had a deal with Plymouth Albion for a short term ground share in case of promotion?
The stadium has been delayed until 2013/14 season, so they can't share with Plymouth for the season.
HongKongCherry- Posts : 3297
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This Jeff ground capacity requirement is a total nonsense. What is required is decent toilet facilities, suitable refreshments and pretty much a 2/3rds filled stadium for most games.
When was the last time the current champions put together a 10000 crowd at home?
When was the last time the current champions put together a 10000 crowd at home?
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Portnoy - in the 56 page requirements document the capacity element is only advisosory.
The mandatory things cover medical facilities in the main and then spectator stuff like loos etc.
Would you want a club admitted that does not have the facilities to cope with a player with a broken neck?
The mandatory things cover medical facilities in the main and then spectator stuff like loos etc.
Would you want a club admitted that does not have the facilities to cope with a player with a broken neck?
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Re: Relegation Run-in
Here's a few thoughts based on table points:
Wasps
Current points = 23
Home 1/4 final against Biarritz in Amlin.
Home fixtures against LI (1), Gloucester (1) and Falcons (4)
Away fixtures against Sale (0), Saints (0), Quins (0) and Bath (0)
Potential points (if above correct) = 29
Falcons
Current points = 17
Home fixtures against Quins (0), Sale (1) and Sarries (0)
Away fixtures against Tigers (0), Worcester (1), Gloucester (0) and Wasps (1)
Potential points (if above correct) = 20
Not even sure that it will come down to the last game of the season tbh, think that LBPs may well have kept Wasps up by then anyway
Wasps
Current points = 23
Home 1/4 final against Biarritz in Amlin.
Home fixtures against LI (1), Gloucester (1) and Falcons (4)
Away fixtures against Sale (0), Saints (0), Quins (0) and Bath (0)
Potential points (if above correct) = 29
Falcons
Current points = 17
Home fixtures against Quins (0), Sale (1) and Sarries (0)
Away fixtures against Tigers (0), Worcester (1), Gloucester (0) and Wasps (1)
Potential points (if above correct) = 20
Not even sure that it will come down to the last game of the season tbh, think that LBPs may well have kept Wasps up by then anyway
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Re: Relegation Run-in
LondonTiger wrote:Portnoy - in the 56 page requirements document the capacity element is only advisosory.
The mandatory things cover medical facilities in the main and then spectator stuff like loos etc.
Would you want a club admitted that does not have the facilities to cope with a player with a broken neck?
Oh ffs - what do you think?
Obviously I leurve to see players being slayed like in Roman circi. So long as there are the dancing girls to lighten the experience...
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Good point, Portnoy, that should defo be in the requirements docPortnoy wrote:LondonTiger wrote:Portnoy - in the 56 page requirements document the capacity element is only advisosory.
The mandatory things cover medical facilities in the main and then spectator stuff like loos etc.
Would you want a club admitted that does not have the facilities to cope with a player with a broken neck?
Oh ffs - what do you think?
Obviously I leurve to see players being slayed like in Roman circi. So long as there are the dancing girls to lighten the experience...

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AsLongAsBut100ofUs- Posts : 14129
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Re: Relegation Run-in
I think we'll beat Wasps....but whether its enough im not sure...
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It does show relegation creates a buzz. If the Prem were closed, Wasps & Falcons would be focusing on next year and would supporters be interested in watching that?...
HongKongCherry- Posts : 3297
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Re: Relegation Run-in
How about a plate final and ring fencing?
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yappysnap wrote:How about a plate final and ring fencing?
That would be like the LV. Great if you win it, but you really don't care in the slightest about it
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AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Goo point, Portnoy, that should defo be in the requirements docPortnoy wrote:LondonTiger wrote:Portnoy - in the 56 page requirements document the capacity element is only advisosory.
The mandatory things cover medical facilities in the main and then spectator stuff like loos etc.
Would you want a club admitted that does not have the facilities to cope with a player with a broken neck?
Oh ffs - what do you think?
Obviously I leurve to see players being slayed like in Roman circi. So long as there are the dancing girls to lighten the experience...
Some teams are already a step ahead there.
But honestly, Newcastle and dancing girls? Have you seen Geordie Shore?!
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yappysnap wrote:AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Goo point, Portnoy, that should defo be in the requirements docPortnoy wrote:LondonTiger wrote:Portnoy - in the 56 page requirements document the capacity element is only advisosory.
The mandatory things cover medical facilities in the main and then spectator stuff like loos etc.
Would you want a club admitted that does not have the facilities to cope with a player with a broken neck?
Oh ffs - what do you think?
Obviously I leurve to see players being slayed like in Roman circi. So long as there are the dancing girls to lighten the experience...
Some teams are already a step ahead there.
But honestly, Newcastle and dancing girls? Have you seen Geordie Shore?!
Now now Yappy...

Please dont judge our ladies on that appaling load of

We have some canny bits of stuff up here like....

Geordie- Posts : 26671
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And just announced TIm Swinson is off to Glasgow next season!
Geordie- Posts : 26671
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That's suprising. I really thought he'd stay and remain a fixture at the Falcons.
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Yup, i did to Sam. Im a little dissapointed by this as he's a good player and a local lad.....
Geordie- Posts : 26671
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falling out with the new coaches maybe?
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