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Post by Kenny Thu 23 Feb 2012, 10:46 pm

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England squad

Goalkeepers: Scott Carson (Bursaspor), Joe Hart (Manchester City), Robert Green (West Ham United)

Defenders: Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Leighton Baines (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Micah Richards (Manchester City), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), Kyle Walker (Tottenham Hotspur)

Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), Tom Cleverley (Manchester United), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), James Milner (Manchester City), Scott Parker (Tottenham Hotspur), Ashley Young (Manchester United), Theo Walcott (Arsenal)

Forwards: Darren Bent (Aston Villa), Fraizer Campbell (Sunderland), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Danny Welbeck (Manchester United)


Having indicated that it would be a young squad and that senior players wouldn't be picked im a little disappointed and i really dont understand why Rooney has been picked we should be looking for strikers for the opening 2 euro championship games which Rooney is banned for .
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Post by Guest Tue 28 Feb 2012, 5:39 am

Crimey wrote:Are England not allowed to bring in replacements for the injured players?

they are but stuart pearce dosent want to.... Erm

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 28 Feb 2012, 8:58 am

its a friendly- what is the point! big enough squad as it is

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Post by Kenny Wed 29 Feb 2012, 10:13 am

I wouldn't bring anyone else in go with who as been selected already , like has been said its a friendly that doesnt meen anything so why bother bringing in players on a days notice
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Post by steven24 Wed 29 Feb 2012, 10:29 am

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KingKenny7Heaven wrote:How many of the squad selected would make it into Hollands starting 11 ?
And be honest

Micah Richards, Wayne Rooney, Ashley Cole, Steven Gerrard, Joe Hart, and that's just off the top of my head

Gerrard definately couldn't get in their midfield. Cole has been in poor form but Richards stands a chance.

In the world cup final they played 1-up front, so Rooney probably wouldn't get in either.

Gerrard is better than any of there midfielders besides Sneijder, and he was better than him in his prime. Cole is good enough, as is Richards, and Rooney is better than RVP, he has done it a lot more consistently for a lot longer, RVP is world class, but not as good as Rooney imo. And Hart is arguably the best keeper in the world.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 29 Feb 2012, 4:52 pm

people look at the dutch team thinking everything is greener. Yep good technical side, but there are not perfect and england can win this- we have the ability to score goals and defend against them. Simple yes but it is that simple. Our players play amongst these sort of players in the dutch team week in week out , they will not be schooled , i predict an england win! 3-1 or 3-0. Danny welbeck to score a brace

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Post by lorus59 Wed 29 Feb 2012, 4:59 pm

These matches are meaningless and the result even more so. All the players will have been given instructions by their club managers to take it easy and not get injured for important games ahead. If one of these teams win 5-0 it won't mean a thing if they meet again in the summer.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 29 Feb 2012, 5:36 pm

i wouldnt say they are meaningless- what happens before these matches is that all the top names get oddly injured before hand! funnily enough its happened again- but its a good look at the fringe players who are more inclined to fight for a place.

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Post by eirebilly Wed 29 Feb 2012, 6:28 pm

I am not a football fan at all but i really hope England crush Holland tonight. The Dutch are so arrogant and are talking about an easy 5-0 win at least. All i hear on the radio here is how England are poor, JT is distgusting and that England are not even remotely in the same league as them.

I live here and love the Dutch but they have gone way OTT. Please win England.
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Post by steven24 Wed 29 Feb 2012, 8:30 pm

eirebilly wrote:I am not a football fan at all but i really hope England crush Holland tonight. The Dutch are so arrogant and are talking about an easy 5-0 win at least. All i hear on the radio here is how England are poor, JT is distgusting and that England are not even remotely in the same league as them.

I live here and love the Dutch but they have gone way OTT. Please win England.

England should be beating nearly men like these anyway, if you can't beat Holland you WON'T win the Euro's in my eyes. Or even challenge for them, especially after beating the best Spain side available with a weakened, weakened side out like we did.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 29 Feb 2012, 9:32 pm

eirebilly wrote:I am not a football fan at all but i really hope England crush Holland tonight. The Dutch are so arrogant and are talking about an easy 5-0 win at least. All i hear on the radio here is how England are poor, JT is distgusting and that England are not even remotely in the same league as them.

I live here and love the Dutch but they have gone way OTT. Please win England.

How they can say all that carp after their WC final display (still one of the most disgraceful things I've seen in football) is beyond me. Didn't care before, now I hope we smash them.

And PBF - Gerrard is past it, he's 'Mr MOTD' - only looks good on a highlight real.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 29 Feb 2012, 10:10 pm

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Post by eirebilly Wed 29 Feb 2012, 10:20 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
eirebilly wrote:I am not a football fan at all but i really hope England crush Holland tonight. The Dutch are so arrogant and are talking about an easy 5-0 win at least. All i hear on the radio here is how England are poor, JT is distgusting and that England are not even remotely in the same league as them.

I live here and love the Dutch but they have gone way OTT. Please win England.

How they can say all that carp after their WC final display (still one of the most disgraceful things I've seen in football) is beyond me. Didn't care before, now I hope we smash them.

And PBF - Gerrard is past it, he's 'Mr MOTD' - only looks good on a highlight real.

The funniest was actually a few months back when they were going to 'Smash' Germany as they were also not in the same league as them. The were promptly beaten 3-0.
The arrogance of the national team is exploding here after the World Cup final appearance.
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Post by Beer Wed 29 Feb 2012, 10:33 pm

Parker to Captain the side.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 29 Feb 2012, 11:42 pm

So the dutch media getting all self obsessed lol! allways an added incentive to want to beat the team up!

nice to hear from source that it really isnt just the english media that spout rubbish to sell there stories!

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Post by eirebilly Wed 29 Feb 2012, 11:58 pm

Its really bad Mysti, they are not talking about winning but by how many goals and even if they should be bothered to send the first team out.

This is the Dutch media though, not the players.
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Post by Kenny Thu 01 Mar 2012, 12:01 am

Parker as captain , yes i would go with that .

What a turn around in Parkers career he has been in great form for the past couple of seasons yet could not cement his place in Capello's side now he will lead out his country .

The Dutch are saying RVP may not play tonight , not heard how true that is ?
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Post by mystiroakey Thu 01 Mar 2012, 12:08 am

I suppose if england win, the game will just be a friendly, if holland win they can justify what they have said!

England are quite a good team lets be honest- we dont get hammered often, big asks by the media, even if they are the better overall side!

The english media can be bad- but not to that extent- its like us playing a team ranked a couple below us( in this case brazil) and saying we will beat them 5 nil- lol!!

obviously england would expect to lose against brazil- however i garantee there media wouldnt be foolish enough to suggest they would beat us by loads, i wouldnt expect the german or the spanish to do that either!

i know that spain have the most awfull record at friendlies, so they never would, but i think they have abit more respect for our players anyway!

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Post by eirebilly Thu 01 Mar 2012, 12:10 am

Please just beat the Dutch, thats all i ask Very Happy
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Post by monty junior Thu 01 Mar 2012, 12:29 am

A bit rich of the English to have a go at the "arrogant" Dutch Media. At least they have a reason to be..

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 01 Mar 2012, 1:05 am

do they!! yeah right!

they may have the right to say they are good at football! thats all, they dont haver the right to demonize other countries players for there actions, when what there players did in the WC final was shocking to say the least!

you dont hear england saying they will put 5 past brazil (2 above in the rankings than england- england are 2 behind holland)infact youdont hear our media ever saying how many unless the other team is miles below our level!

and next - its billy saying it- he is irish - not even english!

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Post by Beer Thu 01 Mar 2012, 2:05 am

KK7,

Apparently RVP has a groin strain but he will play.

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Post by liverbnz Thu 01 Mar 2012, 2:10 am

King Beer wrote:KK7,

Apparently RVP has a groin strain but he will play.

Excellent news!

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 01 Mar 2012, 2:22 am

so RVP will be fresh for the next arsernal game then Smile

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Post by Beer Thu 01 Mar 2012, 2:24 am

He's still playing?

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 01 Mar 2012, 2:26 am

- wow lol- talk about not reading one small sentance correctly, heard he wasnt playing somewhere else and just - er i dunno!!

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Post by Beer Thu 01 Mar 2012, 2:28 am

Laugh

That's all i have heard it and was on the BBC site so could change,

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Post by Guest Thu 01 Mar 2012, 2:50 am

good move to make parker captain OK

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Post by d260005p Thu 01 Mar 2012, 2:57 am

Anyone have any predictions for this evening? Im going for a 1-1. Welbeck to score for England, and i have a feeling of Kuyt for Holland.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 01 Mar 2012, 3:28 am

I'll say 2-0 England even if we are missing five players. Come on England!

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Post by sharky066 Thu 01 Mar 2012, 3:35 am

Going to the game in a couple of hours
hope it will be a good game

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 01 Mar 2012, 3:39 am

have a great one!!

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Post by sharky066 Thu 01 Mar 2012, 3:45 am

mystiroakey wrote:have a great one!!
I was just looking up where we are sitting at the game
I think its a field level near the corner flag area J I think its near the away fans lol

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Post by monty junior Thu 01 Mar 2012, 4:18 am

mystiroakey wrote:do they!! yeah right!

they may have the right to say they are good at football! thats all, they dont haver the right to demonize other countries players for there actions, when what there players did in the WC final was shocking to say the least!

you dont hear england saying they will put 5 past brazil (2 above in the rankings than england- england are 2 behind holland)infact youdont hear our media ever saying how many unless the other team is miles below our level!

and next - its billy saying it- he is irish - not even english!

I'm sure very very few in the Dutch media believe they will put 5 past England, you always get ott patriotic muppets and there's plenty from England as well who predict silly score lines, madness to brand the Dutch ignorant when it's down to a select few. You had plenty moronic pre world cup dillusion from the likes of Ian Wright saying Rooney was the best player in the world only to be one of the worst players in the tournament. The thing with Holland though they can score plenty of goals when there on their game, even against the top sides.

Having said all that i think it will be low scoring, something like 1-0 Holland.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 01 Mar 2012, 4:23 am

no no - i dont brand the dutch nation ignorant- just the media, had enough of torrids of posts that have a pop at english media , when its the same(in most cases much worse) in other countries

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Post by Guest Thu 01 Mar 2012, 6:11 am

Netherlands starting line-up: Stekelenburg; Boulahrouz, Heitinga, Mathijsen, Pieters; Van Bommel, De Jong; Robben, Sneijder, Kuyt; Van Persie.

England starting line-up: Hart; Richards, Cahill, Smalling, Baines; Barry, Parker; Young, Gerrard, A Johnson; Welbeck.

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Post by Guest Thu 01 Mar 2012, 6:12 am

supried that ashley cole isnt in the side however good to see johnson playing.

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Post by Kenny Thu 01 Mar 2012, 10:57 pm

On last nights performance i would change my mind and say Parker and maybe Richards could make Hollands side as i wasn't overly impressed with De jong and Boulahrouz
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Post by FIFA Diva Thu 01 Mar 2012, 11:07 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:supried that ashley cole isnt in the side however good to see johnson playing.

He has been off form for the past season and a half, Baines has been the best left back in England, English or not.
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Post by Crimey Fri 02 Mar 2012, 4:13 am

KingKenny7Heaven wrote:On last nights performance i would change my mind and say Parker and maybe Richards could make Hollands side as i wasn't overly impressed with De jong and Boulahrouz

Van der Wiel is their first choice right back to be fair.

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Post by FIFA Diva Fri 02 Mar 2012, 4:21 am

Van Der Wiel is not better then Richards.
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Post by Guest Fri 02 Mar 2012, 4:29 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Van Der Wiel is not better then Richards.

OK

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