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Post by The Special Juan on Tue 01 May 2012, 6:35 pm

First topic message reminder :

Here is a list of all the "big movers" to the PL this season. The table contains the player's name, club moved from and to and fee for so we can scrutinise them Wink

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Player From ToFee
Kevin de Bruyne Genk (Belgium) Chelsea £6.7m
Olivier Giroud Montpellier (France) Arsenal £13.2m
Eden Hazard Lille (France) Chelsea £35.2m
Shinji Kagawa Borussia Dortmund (Germany)Manchester United £13.2m
Marko Marin Werder Bremen (Germany)Chelsea £8.6m
Lukas Podolski Cologne (Germany) Arsenal£11.4m
Jan Vertonghen Ajax (Netherlands) Spurs£7.5m


Any updates would be appreciated.

Other transfers that may/may not be interesting:

Gylfi Sigurdsson - Spurs
Jacob Butterfield - Norwich
Nick Powell - Manchester United
Romain Amalfitano - Newcastle
Steven Naismith - Everton

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/transferuebersicht/wettbewerb_GB1.html


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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:26 pm

He's a Mr Winklechops Laugh

Any word on a fee yet?
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Post by Crimey on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:26 pm

Young, Nani and Valencia.

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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:26 pm

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Its a team that will play football, and on the ground.

Which 3

When has that suited Torres? He is a direct penetrative striker (or used to be), don't think he will be able to adapt to the link up and poacher game.

Marin, Mata, Hazard, I'd be surprised if they played together much. To be honest I think Marin will be lucky to get a game now Hazard is signing - he must be the most gutted person after Edins announcement.

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Post by Crimey on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:28 pm

£32 million is the fee most reported.

I think the £62 million is what Chelsea are reportedly going to spend on Hulk and Hazard.

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Post by GSC on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:29 pm

That would make sense.

Marins the most natural winger of the 3?
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Post by JDizzle on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:29 pm

Yeah, 40 million Euros was the amount that was being floated for all three teams interested in signing him.

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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:30 pm

Crimey wrote:City he'll get the least game time, United already have 3 good wingers, Chelsea have none.

Yes but city can pay him the most, are champions of England and an ego like that thinks he can be first choice.

United are united, Fergies record of developing players, number 7 shirt etc

Chelsea have money, no manager, best players just left and fluked a CL in bizarre circumstances whilst finishing 6th in the league.

Genuinely just thought he was being polite to them, but c'est la vie - it's his bed, now he has to lie in it.

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Post by Crimey on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:31 pm

He had agreed personal terms with all three clubs, so presumably they were all going to pay him similar amounts.

I imagine the fact that Chelsea have just won the Champions League was the main motivating factor.

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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:36 pm

Crimey wrote:He had agreed personal terms with all three clubs, so presumably they were all going to pay him similar amounts.

I imagine the fact that Chelsea have just won the Champions League was the main motivating factor.

I think it's the London thing.

Very foolish to base your career defining move on one kick of a football, would he have joined if Chelsea lost the shoot out - if the answer is yes then fair play to him, if no he is an idiot - simple as that really.

I see him blabbering on about promises, unless he agreed terms with them and was going to change his mind considering how Poopie they had become only to change it back when they fluked the cl.

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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:37 pm

Are they going to win it again any time soon? Probably not.

£32m? Wow. Roman's spending the money.
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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:38 pm

TSC wrote:Are they going to win it again any time soon? Probably not.

£32m? Wow. Roman's spending the money.

Hulk to join also apparently.

Whilst United are left in the bargain bin again, gonna be a long summer.

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Post by Crimey on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:39 pm

What is odd is that he based his decision on who will play him the most and decided on Chelsea who don't have a manager...

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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:42 pm

Because Roman IS the manager.

I still stand by the fact that I think Hulk is awful. Willing to be proved otherwise though.
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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:44 pm

Crimey wrote:What is odd is that he based his decision on who will play him the most and decided on Chelsea who don't have a manager...

Yeah, I think we can pick holes in what ever hes said - at the end of the day it was a bit of a saga of his own creation for a bit of attention so I wouldn't read too much into all the quotes.

I do wonder if Joe Cole talked up Chelsea much to him.

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Post by Hero on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:49 pm

Don't quite know why everyone is stating that Utd have wingers so he'd be jostling with them for a place, he stated that he was going to the club that played him in his preferred position which is as an attacking midfielder/second striker not on the left wing.

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Post by GSC on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:52 pm

United still have Rooney/Young that can play in that position though. I don't think he was ever a fit at OT
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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 9:52 pm

Hero wrote:Don't quite know why everyone is stating that Utd have wingers so he'd be jostling with them for a place, he stated that he was going to the club that played him in his preferred position which is as an attacking midfielder/second striker not on the left wing.

I don't think he was ever interested in united, no matter what we have done we have never really appealed to glamour players.

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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:00 pm

Very happy with the news, hopefully he turns out to be as good as people (and he) thinks he is!

Marin-Mata-Hazard
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Or Torres/Sturridge instead of Hulk. Really happy that we've bought together a young squad (Marin/Mata/Hazard are all young).

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Post by GSC on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:02 pm

Well anybody whos played FM can tell you that Thorgan is better Wink
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Post by Crimey on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:02 pm

He's only said that he's joining a champions league winner, I think he's gone to Liverpool. It's a well known fact that he's always wanted to work with Andy Carroll.

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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:03 pm

Gregers wrote:Very happy with the news, hopefully he turns out to be as good as people (and he) thinks he is!

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Or Torres/Sturridge instead of Hulk. Really happy that we've bought together a young squad (Marin/Mata/Hazard are all young).

Its the right thing to do after winning the CL, no matter how good you are - invest.

United had a disaster in buying that tramp Berbatov and now look at the state of us.

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Post by mystiroakey on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:03 pm

pleased for chelsea with the signings- i also hope man u can bolster there team an all. The prem needs to get stronger. and i hope totenham doesnt loose there players andthat arsernal doesnt fade into dust

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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:05 pm

So that makes:

de Bruyn, Marin and Hazard. Hulk, Van der Wiel and maybe another to follow. Very Happy

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Post by Crimey on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:06 pm

Gregers wrote:So that makes:

de Bruyn, Marin and Hazard. Hulk, Van der Wiel and maybe another to follow. Very Happy

Still no manager Wink

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Post by Hero on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:06 pm

What I do find interesting is that it's the player himself that has broke the news rather than the club, can you imagine Fergie allowing a new player to do that?

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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:08 pm

Crimey wrote:
Gregers wrote:So that makes:

de Bruyn, Marin and Hazard. Hulk, Van der Wiel and maybe another to follow. Very Happy

Still no manager Wink

Whoever does take over has one heck of a team though!

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Post by Crimey on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:08 pm

Weirdly, it hasn't been reported in places like BBC or Sky Sports yet...

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Post by GSC on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:08 pm

He had an agreement with them as well as Chelsea and Man City so presumably yes. Can't see the harm personally.

At least he didn't have a LeBron style, The Decision on ESPN.
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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:08 pm

mystiroakey wrote:pleased for chelsea with the signings- i also hope man u can bolster there team an all. The prem needs to get stronger. and i hope totenham doesnt loose there players andthat arsernal doesnt fade into dust

Doesn't look likely, Tottenham were never that good and with no CL no ones joining and people want to leave. Arsenal look like losing RVP so thats them gone and United have missed out on their major target.

City's league at a canter, thought the rest would strengthen and make it hard for them - pity.

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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:09 pm

Crimey wrote:Weirdly, it hasn't been reported in places like BBC or Sky Sports yet...

Sky Sports Android App has confirmed it.

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Post by GSC on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:10 pm

Crimey wrote:Weirdly, it hasn't been reported in places like BBC or Sky Sports yet...

His tweet was on the bbc newsfeed.

He did leave himself a loophole I imagine they're waiting for an official announcement.
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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:11 pm

[quote="Gregers"]
Crimey wrote:Weirdly, it hasn't been reported in places like BBC or Sky Sports yet...

Sky Sports Android App has confirmed it.[/quote

It would be hilarious if his account had been hacked or he changed his mind again, not that thats likely.

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Post by mystiroakey on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:11 pm

Ent wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:pleased for chelsea with the signings- i also hope man u can bolster there team an all. The prem needs to get stronger. and i hope totenham doesnt loose there players andthat arsernal doesnt fade into dust

Doesn't look likely, Tottenham were never that good and with no CL no ones joining and people want to leave. Arsenal look like losing RVP so thats them gone and United have missed out on their major target.

City's league at a canter, thought the rest would strengthen and make it hard for them - pity.

its not over yet-obviously chelsea are spending, united will spend and we never know if wilshire and co can get fit and step up arsernal could also push. Its not garanteed that RVP is off either

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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:14 pm

Chelsea will be a lot closer to City and so far they have signed noone... United will get Kagawa now I'm sure, unless City swoop in and get him after missing out on Hazard? Arsenal really need to strengthen, especially if they lose RVP. Spurs will lose Bale (because he thinks he's amazing) and Modric (because he is amazing).

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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:15 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
Ent wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:pleased for chelsea with the signings- i also hope man u can bolster there team an all. The prem needs to get stronger. and i hope totenham doesnt loose there players andthat arsernal doesnt fade into dust

Doesn't look likely, Tottenham were never that good and with no CL no ones joining and people want to leave. Arsenal look like losing RVP so thats them gone and United have missed out on their major target.

City's league at a canter, thought the rest would strengthen and make it hard for them - pity.

its not over yet-obviously chelsea are spending, united will spend and we never know if wilshire and co can get fit and step up arsernal could also push. Its not garanteed that RVP is off either

I disagree, lets be honest even with everybody fit and playing well Arsenal won't be good enough and RVP is likely to leave even if it isn't set in stone.

Don't think United can get it done, we were running on empty all season and the wheels came off and to compete for the PL and CL realistically need a RB, CB, LB and 2 x CM.

Fergie might buy 1 of below the required standard (all we can recruit are above average PL players and young prospects), fingers crossed he does better but I am pessimistic.

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Post by mystiroakey on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:16 pm

Well we shall see- dont underestimate the pulling power of the prem of the performance of the scouts either

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Post by GSC on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:16 pm

Why would Man City sign Kagawa? They're already stocked up in that position.
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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:18 pm

Because they have been linked with Kagawa for months and Nani is useless.

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Post by Liam on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:18 pm

c'mon Ent be a little more optimistic. Pretty sure Kagawa is ours, linked with a very good holding midfielder in Strootman, hopefully get debouchy and baines as our full backs and then get some money back when we hopefully sell berba definately and maybe anderson.

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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:20 pm

martyr, the only thing you should be worried about is Man City switching attention from Hazard to Kagawa and poaching him on double wages. They did the same with us and Yaya Toure.

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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:20 pm

Gregers wrote:Because they have been linked with Kagawa for months and Nani is useless.

He said city and Nani is a pretty great player overall.

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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:22 pm

martyr_94 wrote:c'mon Ent be a little more optimistic. Pretty sure Kagawa is ours, linked with a very good holding midfielder in Strootman, hopefully get debouchy and baines as our full backs and then get some money back when we hopefully sell berba definately and maybe anderson.

Not going to sign 2 of them and the other isn't going to turn us into PL champions.

Kagawa is ok, like a version of Park that can play football - but he is no world beater, remember he is performing well in Germany for the best team their by a country mile and isn't their best player (by a stretch I am led to believe).

I'll believe the others when I see them but I've never even seen a rumour of either and I read most sports sites (just no red tops). Also I'd rather come 5th than deploy a dedicated holding midfielder.

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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:24 pm

Ent wrote:
Gregers wrote:Because they have been linked with Kagawa for months and Nani is useless.

He said city and Nani is a pretty great player overall.

Oops sorry, brain frazzled by revision!

Nani has all the tools but never performs as he should do.

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Post by GSC on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:26 pm

Well Gotze is a beast but he'd prob cost upwards of 50m.

Defensive depth, Kagawa and a midfield destroyer would strengthen United quite a bit. Surprised they haven't jumped in for M'Vila at less than 20m.

On Nani, inconsistent, but a match winner on his day. SAF drew consistency out of Ronaldo, I think he'd give Nani another season.
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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:27 pm

Gregers wrote:
Ent wrote:
Gregers wrote:Because they have been linked with Kagawa for months and Nani is useless.

He said city and Nani is a pretty great player overall.

Oops sorry, brain frazzled by revision!

Nani has all the tools but never performs as he should do.

Not really true is it, our best player season before last and managed 8 goals and 12 assists this season despite being injured for a lot of it.

Better than Valencia for my money but Valencia rarely makes a balls up and runs a lot so is a fan favourite.

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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:31 pm

Kagawa has been probably Dortmund's top performer along Lewandowski over the last season or 2.
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Post by Hero on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:31 pm

There's been several sites mentioning Strootman to Utd:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2123486/Manchester-United-want-PSV-midfielder-Kevin-Strootman.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-target-kevin-strootman-847100

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1490171_psv-eindhoven-star-kevin-strootman-on-manchester-united-radar

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120524/man-united-told-dutch-star-will-decide-future-after-euro-201

In regards to how good Kagawa is, he's an extremely intelligent player, technically very gifted and quick thinking, Guardiola is a huge fan of him.

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Post by Liam on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:38 pm

ent,

They have Goetze but Kagawa has been consistently their best performer, although Lewondowski has also been very good also.

We lost on goal diff to a side unbelievably superior to our current squad, Kagawa, Strootman, Debouchy and Baines would give us a seriously strong, young and talented squad and could certainly challenge City for them prem and do allot better in the champions league.

I agree with your point on Nani, unlucky with injury this season, outstanding the season before last.

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Post by Ent on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:43 pm

Hero no serious journalism there, as they say no smoke without fire though.

I'll take your word on Kagawa TSC as I've not seen much of him, can't see him making us contenders for the league or CL though.

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Post by Liam on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:47 pm

You say you don't think he'll make that much of a difference Ent, then say I haven't seen much of him, then how can you know he won't make a difference. You need to read reports about him, see his stats and know he is a fantastic player that has the qualities to improve utd ten fold imo.


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