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Post by GSC Sun 03 Apr 2011, 5:35 pm

Threw this together while watching Man City demolish Sunderland, will explain any logic if asked.

1. Carolina Panthers: Cam Newton, QB
2. Denver Broncos: Marcell Dareus, DT
3. Buffalo Bills: Von Miller, OLB
4. Cincinatti Bengals: Blaine Gabbert, QB
5. Arizona Cardinals: Patrick Peterson, CB
6. Cleveland Browns: A.J Green, WR
7. San Francisco 49ers: Robert Quinn, DE/OLB
8. Tennessee Titans: Nick Fairley, DT
9. Dallas Cowboys: Tyron Smith, OT
10. Washington Redskins: Aldon Smith, DE/OLB
11. Houston Texans: Prince Amukamara, CB
12. Minnesota Vikings: Da’Quan Bowers, DE
13. Detroit Lions: Nate Solder, OT
14. St Louis Rams: Julio Jones, WR
15. Miami Dolphins: Mike Pouncey, C/G
16. Jacksonville Jaguars: Ryan Kerrigan, DE
17. New England Patriots: J.J Watt, DE
18. San Diego Chargers: Anthony Castonzo, OT
19. New York Giants: Akeem Ayers, OLB
20. Tampa Bay Buccanneers: Adrian Clayborn, DE
21. Kansas City Chiefs: Phil Taylor, NT
22. Indianapolis Colts: Gabe Carimi, OT
23. Philadelphia Eagles: Jimmy Smith, CB
24. New Orleans Saints: Cam Heyward, DE/DT
25. Seattle Seahawks: Ryan Mallet, QB
26. Baltimore Ravens: Torrey Smith, WR
27. Atlanta Falcons: Cameron Jordan, DE
28. New England Patriots: Justin Houston, OLB
29. Chicago Bears: Corey Liuget, DT
30. New York Jets: Muhammad Wilkerson, DE/DT
31. Pittsburgh Steelers: Derek Sherrod, OT
32. Green Bay Packers: Aaron Williams, DB
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Post by AdZacO Sun 03 Apr 2011, 6:51 pm

I don't see puncey going 15, which a few experts are saying, but it has to be ingram with both Rbs going into free agency. Also not to include Ingram in the first round? Green bay may take a punt on him, as Starks looked good in playoffs, but was injured before, and Grant also been injured.

Also Ayers to giants? Was projected to go to a 3-4 team, but had a poor 40 time. So i think its too high for him now, and wrong system.

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Post by Leedscowboys Sun 03 Apr 2011, 7:05 pm

Think Texans will look to bolster their D line as they will switch to 3-4
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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 03 Apr 2011, 7:17 pm

I imagine Green Bay would pull the trigger on Ingram if he fell to #32. That said I do like Grant and Starts, but as AdZacO says, the injury bug has hit them both before.

That said I like the CB pick as we play in Nickel or higher so frequently and I can't help but wonder if Sam Shields is playing above himself because of the other two guys at the position and the simple fact he only played one year at corner at Uni.

I also like the Ryan Mallet pick by Seattle, but I wonder if they would be more tempted by the local hero Mr Locker.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 03 Apr 2011, 7:18 pm

Agreed about the Texans Leedscowboys, but there CB situation took a dramatic hit with the loss on Dunta Robinson and I think they reached for Kareem Jackson last year. If the "Fresh Prince" is available at 11 they will snap him up and wait till the next rounds to improve the line in what is a deep class.

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Post by GSC Sun 03 Apr 2011, 8:59 pm

I don't think the position of RB is as high priority as in the past, and Ingram is projected that high simply because hes the best of a weak RB class. Theres better value in RBs in the later rounds, and the Dolphins decision to gut the middle of their O-Line last offseason to save money didn't help either.

Ingram to Miami is such a boring pick too.

Williams would allow GB to move Woodson to safety, where I imagine he'd have a few more years of high level play compared to CB.

I'd only take a 3-4 NT this high, and Phil Taylor would be a massive reach for the Texans at 11.

Giants took a similar prospect in Clint Simtim in the 2nd round a couple of years, and Ayers is a better prospect.
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Post by GSC Sun 03 Apr 2011, 9:09 pm

To clarify, i don't think Ingram will make it out of the first round, someone will trade back into the late first if hes there. I don't think he's a top 15 pick however.
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Post by AdZacO Sun 03 Apr 2011, 9:14 pm

Ingram is more than the best of a week class. He is a former Heismann trophy winner.

Also your example of Simtim is a poor one, as it didnt work out. If Ayers plays end, then he is in group of alot of talent so a waste of a pick, and if he plays OLB then he too slow and cant cover, as a 4-3 olb needs to be quick, and Ayres ran a 4.84 at combine, only to improve it to 4.69 to low 4.7.

But if woodson moves to saftey, does collins move to strong saftey? Considering he has been good at FS. Also T. Williams played well in post season and should get a chance to start at CB.

Dont get me wrong i think it is a good mock, with some good picks.

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Post by GSC Sun 03 Apr 2011, 9:28 pm

Tramon Williams will start, and Sam Shields probably opposite him. Williams as a nickelback I'd imagine. There was talk of Woodson moving to safety earlier this offseason iirc, usually as part of the Asomugha talk.

A scouting report i read said he had the range to play sideline to sideline, quickness, and he could fit as a SAM OLB in a 4-3. Truth be told the Giants were a tough team to mock.
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Post by GSC Sun 03 Apr 2011, 9:30 pm

Tim Tebow, Reggie Bush and Troy Smith have won the Heisman in recent times, while Sam Bradford and Carson Palmer have also won it. I place no stock in it as an evaluation tool.
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Post by AdZacO Sun 03 Apr 2011, 9:40 pm

Its a fair point, when it comes to QBs. Reggie has had problems running down the middle, due to size. Ingram does not suffer from that. Although using the Heismann was a bad example, but he is mid first round talent.

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Post by AdZacO Sun 03 Apr 2011, 9:50 pm

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Tramon Williams will start, and Sam Shields probably opposite him. Williams as a nickelback I'd imagine. There was talk of Woodson moving to safety earlier this offseason iirc, usually as part of the Asomugha talk.

A scouting report i read said he had the range to play sideline to sideline, quickness, and he could fit as a SAM OLB in a 4-3. Truth be told the Giants were a tough team to mock.

Think scouting report abou ayers are very mixed. I have seen some say he has very poor turn of hips and although has good acceleration has bad top speed, so couldnt cover TE or RB. But others saying opposite. I think he will be a bust personally and wouldnt touch him in first round.

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Post by GSC Sun 03 Apr 2011, 9:51 pm

Fair enough, thats your opinion, I just don't see him as a top 15 pick, especially given the way teams are moving towards RBBC and finding role players to fill it. Theres more value imo in finding a bruiser and a finesse back midway through the draft and using the first rounder to land a blue chip player.
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Post by GSC Sun 03 Apr 2011, 9:53 pm

I just read 4 mocks who split him between the Bucs, Chargers, Jets and Saints. Hes raw, but potential should see him go in the first imo.
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Post by AdZacO Sun 03 Apr 2011, 10:04 pm

Very raw, mind you mike mayock rates him, and i think he is best scouter on the main sites. Notice only one is a 4-3? But you are right he will go in first.

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Post by GSC Sun 03 Apr 2011, 10:06 pm

All it takes is 1 4-3 team to scout him as a 4-3 OLB though.
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Post by AdZacO Sun 03 Apr 2011, 10:15 pm

very true, but with talk of him being 3-4 old or even inside, would bet he goes to a 3-4 team.

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Post by GSC Sun 03 Apr 2011, 10:19 pm

Possibly. The only 2 3-4 teams picking directly before the Giants are the Patriots and the Chargers.
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Post by arizona_tom Sun 03 Apr 2011, 10:50 pm

love the cards pick, a lot of anyalysts have peterson dropping to 48ers, but hes definetly too good a player to fall out of the top 5

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Post by Leedscowboys Mon 04 Apr 2011, 7:52 am

I would love for Dallas to reach for Peterson if he was there at 6 and trade with the Browns, I still think he is a top 4 prospect.
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Post by Pr4wn Mon 04 Apr 2011, 9:37 am

I can see Clayborn dropping out of the first round altogether. He only managed 17 reps on the bench press. That's pretty darn poor for a DE. He also has this Erb's Palsy problem in his shoulder and has character issues.

Given the recent problems with Aqib Talib I think the Bucs are probably going to looks hard at getting someone like Ryan Kerrigan or Juston Houston.

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Post by GSC Mon 04 Apr 2011, 1:10 pm

Kerrigan was gone, but doesn't Houston fit as a 3-4 OLB? Bucs are 1 of the teams I feel will probably end up moving up for a guy
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Post by Pr4wn Mon 04 Apr 2011, 2:10 pm

I agree, I can see us trading up for Kerrigan or Aldon Smith. Even Bowers is a possibilty if he drops as far as some suggest he might.

I really can't see us picking Clayborn just because he's the only half-decent end left. He's poor value at 20 so we might use the pick on an OLB, CB or even OL.

Good mock though.

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