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Post by Gordy on Mon 14 May 2012, 2:44 pm

What are opinions on him as a manager? I thought he was a candidate for manager of the year this season. He has done very well with Norwich who were in alot of trouble whne he took over. Now they look to be a secure premier division side. But perhaps from a Norwich supporters view he has been too successful too quickly? I can envisage other clubs now wanting to poach him. Aston Villa will be looking for a new manager and may try to tempt him. How successful would he be at other clubs? Would Norwich fans forgive him if he left?

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Post by Guest on Mon 14 May 2012, 2:53 pm

I think Lambert should stay where he is. He has worked wonders at Norwich and it would be a massive body blow to the club, similar to when Coyle left Burnley.

All the time he is able to run things without board interference can only be a good thing and rarity in today's game. I think he should stay and bide his time.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas on Mon 14 May 2012, 2:54 pm

I think Lambert should stay where he is.
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What for? To finish mid table at best? What good is that... if he can get a slightly higher up club he will move.
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Post by Guest on Mon 14 May 2012, 2:57 pm

And Villa are a step up with their woeful form?

Why would you want to go to a club that will want you to sell before buying?

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Post by azania on Mon 14 May 2012, 3:42 pm

Villa are a bigger club and can attract better players.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 14 May 2012, 3:54 pm

Villa are a club that are massively in debt and have a decreasing fanbase. Look at their drop in attendances this year. Shocking.

I as a Norwich fan would like him to stay one more year and help establish us as a Prem side then he can move on to a bigger job than Villa. Eg. Everton or Spurs
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 14 May 2012, 3:56 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:I think Lambert should stay where he is.
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What for? To finish mid table at best? What good is that... if he can get a slightly higher up club he will move.

Norwich finished 12th.
Villa finished 16th.

That looks like a step down to me
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Post by sodhat on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:01 pm

The league table may show Villa below you, but you're a season removed from being in the Championship. Villa have never left the premier league, whichever way you process it, they are the bigger side. They have the money and presumably ambitions above finishing in the lower spots - they spent £24m on Bent!


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:03 pm

Look I just look at what Mike Walker did with us. Took us to 3rd in the Prem in then left in that summer to go to Everton. Now he left too early and failed at Everton and never really got back to the heights he did with us. Now I'm not saying Lambert would fail at Villa (I would wish him all the best) but I just think if he stays with us for another year he could go on and get a bigger and better job
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Post by Rowley on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:03 pm

Not sure you are being particularly realistic olly, just because you finished above Villa one season does not mean it represents a step down. the dwindling attendances were largely down to McLeish's inept stewardship and turgid football, now he has gone can guarantee they will be back up at the start of next season and whilst we are not spending like we did when O'Neill was in charge in the last couple of years we have spent £10m on N'Zogbia and £24m on Bent, with the greatest of respect that is a considerable increase in the kind of spending power Lambert could ever dream of at Norwich.

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Post by GSC on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:04 pm

The Villa job isn't an attractive prospect at this point. Martinez said no last year remember.

They have little money to spend and are massively reducing the wage bill of a squad that isn't very good atm.
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Post by GSC on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:05 pm

N'Zogbia was funded by getting upwards of 35m for Young and Downing though.
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Post by sodhat on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:05 pm

ollyrules wrote:Look I just look at what Mike Walker did with us. Took us to 3rd in the Prem in then left in that summer to go to Everton. Now he left too early and failed at Everton and never really got back to the heights he did with us. Now I'm not saying Lambert would fail at Villa (I would wish him all the best) but I just think if he stays with us for another year he could go on and get a bigger and better job

But there is a risk - what if it was a case of second season syndrome?

What if his stock falls because of it? What if Norwich aren't as loyal to him?

It's all hypothetical, but he will have to look out for his career and do what he considers best.

Remember when he joined, he left a team that was riding higher to come and take over the bigger club!.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:08 pm

sodhat wrote:
ollyrules wrote:Look I just look at what Mike Walker did with us. Took us to 3rd in the Prem in then left in that summer to go to Everton. Now he left too early and failed at Everton and never really got back to the heights he did with us. Now I'm not saying Lambert would fail at Villa (I would wish him all the best) but I just think if he stays with us for another year he could go on and get a bigger and better job

But there is a risk - what if it was a case of second season syndrome?

What if his stock falls because of it? What if Norwich aren't as loyal to him?

It's all hypothetical, but he will have to look out for his career and do what he considers best.

Remember when he joined, he left a team that was riding higher to come and take over the bigger club!.

Norwich will always be loyal to Lambert! I am not begrudging him moving on as I know he will, but I can't understand why he would to Villa!
Trust me if he stays we will stay up next year, his stock will rise and he will get a better job.
Colchester to Norwich is a lot bigger jump in stature than Norwich to Villa.
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Post by Rowley on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:13 pm

Appreciate it is not the job it was when Lerner first took over but the glass ceiling is still a little higher than at Norwich, we still have the ability to pay higher wages and if we do decide to spend the simple reality is players will more readily come to Villa than they will Norwich (better ground, facilities, bigger city etc) not bias on my part but the realities of the situation.

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Post by GSC on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:15 pm

Deciding to spend and being able to spend are 2 different things though.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:15 pm

rowley wrote:Appreciate it is not the job it was when Lerner first took over but the glass ceiling is still a little higher than at Norwich, we still have the ability to pay higher wages and if we do decide to spend the simple reality is players will more readily come to Villa than they will Norwich (better ground, facilities, bigger city etc) not bias on my part but the realities of the situation.

I'm not denying that Rowley, I just think if he could do another season of greatness with us he could move onto maybe a Spurs next summer. Not gonna deny you have the spending power over us, just I think he can move onto bigger things come next summer.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:18 pm

I think I might cry if Lambert goes Sad
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Post by Josiah Maiestas on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:35 pm

ollyrules wrote:Look I just look at what Mike Walker did with us. Took us to 3rd in the Prem in then left in that summer to go to Everton. Now he left too early and failed at Everton and never really got back to the heights he did with us. Now I'm not saying Lambert would fail at Villa (I would wish him all the best) but I just think if he stays with us for another year he could go on and get a bigger and better job
Norwich were 3rd in prem? You are only 16 so how would you be alive to see that? laughing
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:38 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:
ollyrules wrote:Look I just look at what Mike Walker did with us. Took us to 3rd in the Prem in then left in that summer to go to Everton. Now he left too early and failed at Everton and never really got back to the heights he did with us. Now I'm not saying Lambert would fail at Villa (I would wish him all the best) but I just think if he stays with us for another year he could go on and get a bigger and better job
Norwich were 3rd in prem? You are only 16 so how would you be alive to see that? laughing

I know the history of my club mate. I am a proper supporter. I sat there during the 7-1 defeat to Colchester, I know what has happened in our past. I may not have been alive, but that's hardly my fault!
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Post by sodhat on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:38 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:
ollyrules wrote:Look I just look at what Mike Walker did with us. Took us to 3rd in the Prem in then left in that summer to go to Everton. Now he left too early and failed at Everton and never really got back to the heights he did with us. Now I'm not saying Lambert would fail at Villa (I would wish him all the best) but I just think if he stays with us for another year he could go on and get a bigger and better job
Norwich were 3rd in prem? You are only 16 so how would you be alive to see that? laughing

I'm not sure that's relevant.

I wasn't alive to see the First World War, but that doesn't mean I know nothing about it.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:52 pm

ollyrules wrote:
Josiah Maiestas wrote:I think Lambert should stay where he is.
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What for? To finish mid table at best? What good is that... if he can get a slightly higher up club he will move.

Norwich finished 12th.
Villa finished 16th.

That looks like a step down to me

I think what I meant by this is that at the moment we have a better squad than Villa. I maybe didn't convey it well, I am in despair. It's like the whole Burnley situation all over again!
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Post by Josiah Maiestas on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:56 pm

Norwich play good football OK that's why I can't see him going to Villa as they have DIRE players who are well over the hill and can't get buyers, Norwich may find it difficult though in the 2nd season, every other team will know what to expect now.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 14 May 2012, 4:58 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Norwich play good football OK that's why I can't see him going to Villa as they have DIRE players who are well over the hill and can't get buyers, Norwich may find it difficult though in the 2nd season, every other team will know what to expect now.

No doubt about it, same with Swansea. 2nd season is always tough but with Lambert I believe we can strengthen well in the summer and survive. Without him we would need a good manager coming in, as Lambert is quite an act to follow so to speak
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Post by Gordy on Mon 14 May 2012, 6:46 pm

legendkillarV2 wrote:And Villa are a step up with their woeful form?

Why would you want to go to a club that will want you to sell before buying?

Interesting point. Norwich are a well run team on the up, Villa are on the decline. The table does not lie and Norwich have been better than Aston Villa this season.

It remains to be seen what kind of investment Aston Villa will provide a new manger. They forced Martin O'Neill to sell many of their best players and ended up driving him out of the club despite his success there. Maybe an unambitious appointment like McLeish is just a sign of the times. Somebody like Paul Lambert or Roberto Martinez would have to think long and hard about joining a club like Aston Villa. They are at stable clubs with good reltionships between manager and board who have backed them. Going to a club like Villa is a risk, espeically with an owner who has a history of not backing managers of the claibre of O'Neill. And is the squad or investment available really much bigger and better at Aston Villa at present?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 14 May 2012, 6:53 pm

Gordy wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:And Villa are a step up with their woeful form?

Why would you want to go to a club that will want you to sell before buying?

Interesting point. Norwich are a well run team on the up, Villa are on the decline. The table does not lie and Norwich have been better than Aston Villa this season.

It remains to be seen what kind of investment Aston Villa will provide a new manger. They forced Martin O'Neill to sell many of their best players and ended up driving him out of the club despite his success there. Maybe an unambitious appointment like McLeish is just a sign of the times. Somebody like Paul Lambert or Roberto Martinez would have to think long and hard about joining a club like Aston Villa. They are at stable clubs with good reltionships between manager and board who have backed them. Going to a club like Villa is a risk, espeically with an owner who has a history of not backing managers of the claibre of O'Neill. And is the squad or investment available really much bigger and better at Aston Villa at present?

It's not as if we don't have money! Getting to the Prem has allowed us to all but write off our debts this season, definately by the end of next season. We spent £3.5 million on Ryan Bennett in January which was a high fee for us to pay and I heard we would have gone higher. The board will give Lambert whatever money he needs to buy a player. He picks the players he wants to buy and the board goes out and gets them.
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Post by westisbest on Tue 15 May 2012, 5:21 pm

Whatever manager we get in, he cant be as bad as McLeish, with his negative style of football.

Yes we finished below Norwich/Swansea, fair play to them, like to see promoted teams not go back down(apart from blues).

We have good players at Villa, some say we dont.
Everyone has their opinion.

We have some good young lads tin the squad, but they dont have experience, lost quite a few experienced players to injury/illness.

With Bent out, Keane only there for a month.

Petrov was a massive blow for us, a leader on the pitch.
Dunne/Given being out for a while(although Guzan did well).
OK, so it looks like I'm making excuses, but didnt bode well for a great season.

That mixed with poor players we do have, Hutton/Heskey/Warnock, Gabby was poor to.


I'd actually like to have a manager with a good chunk of prem experience.
With a good manager in, make a couple of decent signings, I am confident we will be top half next season, back where we were just a couple of seasons ago.


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Post by cherriesfna on Wed 16 May 2012, 12:47 pm

lambert wont leave

at norwich he has wilbrahimovic
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