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Post by GSC on Wed 23 May 2012 - 18:39

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Post by Guest on Wed 23 May 2012 - 18:46

Good.

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 23 May 2012 - 18:57

a lot harsher than i thought it would be, the worst i thought would be 3 game for elbow to tevez, 3 games for knee on aguero and 3 games for "headbutt" to kompany, not sure where the extra 3 games has come from

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Post by PaulHv2 on Wed 23 May 2012 - 18:59

The guys a thug and shouldn't be anywhere near a football pitch.
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Post by Guest on Wed 23 May 2012 - 19:01

That's him out til mid November then. Not sure how he'll force his way back into the team, especially if they are sitting pretty in the league.

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Post by Crimey on Wed 23 May 2012 - 20:06

compelling and rich wrote:a lot harsher than i thought it would be, the worst i thought would be 3 game for elbow to tevez, 3 games for knee on aguero and 3 games for "headbutt" to kompany, not sure where the extra 3 games has come from

4 game ban immediately for second red card of the season.

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Post by Ent on Wed 23 May 2012 - 20:09

8 games for kneeing someone in the bum.

Suarez got 8 games for racist abuse.

knee in the bum = racist abuse?

Honestly there is just no logic in these fa disciplinary matters.

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Post by Guest on Wed 23 May 2012 - 20:15

Should be out till at least November time I would imagine as long as it's only league games and not cup games included.

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 23 May 2012 - 20:45

Where's Tevez's ban for starting it?

(Note: Joey got what he deserved)
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Post by Ent on Wed 23 May 2012 - 21:10

TSC wrote:Where's Tevez's ban for starting it?

(Note: Joey got what he deserved)

I dunno Bowyer and Dyer got 4 and 3 games for their fight on the pitch.

8 games probably would have been fair enough for Barton, but who can understand how the FA come up with these sentences.

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 23 May 2012 - 21:16

theres no doubt that if it were anybody else it wouldnt have been as bad, in fact if it was terry im sure it would have been appealed and accepted!! losing your temper is bad but its all part of sport, singling someone out to racist abuse is much worse

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Post by Guest on Wed 23 May 2012 - 21:27

What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???

I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 23 May 2012 - 21:31

I hope QPR see the sense and sell him. If it weren't for some very questionable goals by Stoke against Bolton they would be in the Championship right now, and a lot of that has to fall on the captain's shoulders for his poor behaviour
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 23 May 2012 - 21:43

Also what on earth is a £75,000 fine going to do??? Time for the FA to start imposing fines that will actually hurt a footballers pocket!
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Post by GSC on Wed 23 May 2012 - 22:02

He was getting 4 games min for a 2nd red, probably 6 more coming from the 2 offences that wouldve resulted in red also, and 2 more for unacceptable behaviour
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Post by JamesLincs on Wed 23 May 2012 - 22:26

is terrys being held back because he is set to face a massive ban? as for barton, 12 games sounds fair enough, but a 75k fine is about a fiver to you or i

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune on Thu 24 May 2012 - 8:26

JamesLincs wrote:is terrys being held back because he is set to face a massive ban? as for barton, 12 games sounds fair enough, but a 75k fine is about a fiver to you or i

Nope, FA can't investigate until the Magistrate Case has finished. If he's found guilty and fined for a Racial Public Order offense, surely FA have also got to find him guilty.

Its as clear as day what he said and hope he gets the required punishment.

Barton will not leave QPR, he is reportedly on £85k a week. No other club will want him and he knows he wont get no where near the wage hes on now.

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:31

compelling and rich wrote:a lot harsher than i thought it would be, the worst i thought would be 3 game for elbow to tevez, 3 games for knee on aguero and 3 games for "headbutt" to kompany, not sure where the extra 3 games has come from

They gave 4 games for each as each charge was for violent conduct.

See how they arrived at their decision but I think they bottled the issue of punitive punishment which he should've received due to his history and bringing the game into disrepute.

12 games was technically correct, I think they then should have doubled it for the above reasons.

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:32

Ent wrote:8 games for kneeing someone in the bum.

Suarez got 8 games for racist abuse.

knee in the bum = racist abuse?

Honestly there is just no logic in these fa disciplinary matters.

Demonstrates how lightly the racist got off. Should've been banned for the season.

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:34

John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???

I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?

They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.

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Post by Beer on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:36

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Ent wrote:8 games for kneeing someone in the bum.

Suarez got 8 games for racist abuse.

knee in the bum = racist abuse?

Honestly there is just no logic in these fa disciplinary matters.

Demonstrates how lightly the racist got off. Should've been banned for the season.

Exactly. The FA bottled that one.

People forget that Barton has plenty of previous. The FA weren't exactly gonna forget it.

It's simple really, each offence would've carried a red card, his second of the season, therefore punishable by 4 games. I would've made it 15 just for the sake of it.

I think QPR will sack him. They've got grounds to as that's probably classed as gross misconduct and he misses a 3rd of the season.

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Post by Beer on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:37

TopHat24/7 wrote:
John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???

I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?

They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.

Different case here.

Suarez admitted making the slur, but claimed it was acceptable as thats the terminology they use in Uruguay.

Terry has vehemently denied the allegations. If he's found guilty they could (and should) throw the preverbial book at him.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:40

It was announced on the FA website how the 12 game ban was arrived at

4 games for 2nd red card of the season
3 games for kicking Aguero
3 games for attempted headbutt of Vincent Kompany
and 2 games for being a c**t

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Post by The Special Juan on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:42

I think it broke down to:

2nd straight red card = 4 games
Violent conduct 1 (Kicking Aguero) = 3 games
Violent conduct 2 (Trying to nut Kompany) = 3 games


Although that's only 10, so maybe it was 4 games for each thing?
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Post by Beer on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:44

Good on The FA. It's about time thet stopped beating around the bush.

I'd give Harry Redknapp a 10 game ban for beign a dodgy, jowely faced f**kwit.

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Post by The Special Juan on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:48

In all honesty though, it was very funny.
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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:49

He should have had some games taken off for his humorous tweets over the next two days. Particularly his Shearer rant.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:50

King Beer wrote:Good on The FA. It's about time thet stopped beating around the bush.

I'd give Harry Redknapp a 10 game ban for beign a dodgy, jowely faced f**kwit.

I dont think its right that he gets a cut of the profits from selling on players he has bought to the club. Somethin not quite right there. Does he owe the club money when they get sold for less.

Centre of 'Bung' transfers at Pompy i.e Colins Mbseuma. So he was getting money for buying a selling players.

He didnt like that fact he was called a 'Wheeler Dealer' and kicked off at the reporter who merely suggested he was good in the transfer market. Vwery Dodgy. and Vwery lucky with his tax case. Probably only got off cos they thought he was going to be the next England manager.


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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:51

King Beer wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???

I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?

They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.

Different case here.

Suarez admitted making the slur, but claimed it was acceptable as thats the terminology they use in Uruguay.

Terry has vehemently denied the allegations. If he's found guilty they could (and should) throw the preverbial book at him.

Not sure I quite agree. They both say they are not racist and did not say anything racist.

The difference is that Suarez says what he said wasn't racist but he did say it whereas Terry has refused to accept he said anything at all.

Given that he's just gone to the World Cup and will probably, at some point, throw himself down in front of ball in a 'heroic pride of Britain' defender type way I suspect they won't bother trying to push any ban out further than Suarez's.

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Post by Beer on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:53

Electric Demon wrote:He should have had some games taken off for his humorous tweets over the next two days. Particularly his Shearer rant.

He should be tied to a wall whilst Shearer takes aim at him with footballs.

You don't slag off the greatest striker England have ever had and the Premier Leagues record goalscorer becuase he thinks you're a little pr*ck. Regardless of how boring Shearer is.

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Post by Beer on Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:57

TopHat24/7 wrote:
King Beer wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???

I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?

They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.

Different case here.

Suarez admitted making the slur, but claimed it was acceptable as thats the terminology they use in Uruguay.

Terry has vehemently denied the allegations. If he's found guilty they could (and should) throw the preverbial book at him.

Not sure I quite agree. They both say they are not racist and did not say anything racist.

The difference is that Suarez says what he said wasn't racist but he did say it whereas Terry has refused to accept he said anything at all.

Given that he's just gone to the World Cup and will probably, at some point, throw himself down in front of ball in a 'heroic pride of Britain' defender type way I suspect they won't bother trying to push any ban out further than Suarez's.

Suarez did eventually admit calling Evra a 'negrito'.

Terry denies saying anything, denies being a racist and basically doesn't know what Anton Ferdinand's problem is. Yet, the camera quite clearly show's him saying something that starts 'Bl...' and ends with the word '**nt'.

He can't claim a language barrier, despite how retarded the Ferdinand family look, so if he's found guilty then he is a racist and his 'attack' was racially motivated, which to me, is more serious than what Suarez did.

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 24 May 2012 - 10:08

King Beer wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
King Beer wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???

I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?

They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.

Different case here.

Suarez admitted making the slur, but claimed it was acceptable as thats the terminology they use in Uruguay.

Terry has vehemently denied the allegations. If he's found guilty they could (and should) throw the preverbial book at him.

Not sure I quite agree. They both say they are not racist and did not say anything racist.

The difference is that Suarez says what he said wasn't racist but he did say it whereas Terry has refused to accept he said anything at all.

Given that he's just gone to the World Cup and will probably, at some point, throw himself down in front of ball in a 'heroic pride of Britain' defender type way I suspect they won't bother trying to push any ban out further than Suarez's.

Suarez did eventually admit calling Evra a 'negrito'.

Yes, but you've missed my point. Suarez admitted saying the word but not that he or it was racist. To him it was the cultural equivalent of calling someone an idiot, it's just accepted banter.

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Post by Beer on Thu 24 May 2012 - 10:11

TopHat24/7 wrote:
King Beer wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
King Beer wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???

I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?

They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.

Different case here.

Suarez admitted making the slur, but claimed it was acceptable as thats the terminology they use in Uruguay.

Terry has vehemently denied the allegations. If he's found guilty they could (and should) throw the preverbial book at him.

Not sure I quite agree. They both say they are not racist and did not say anything racist.

The difference is that Suarez says what he said wasn't racist but he did say it whereas Terry has refused to accept he said anything at all.

Given that he's just gone to the World Cup and will probably, at some point, throw himself down in front of ball in a 'heroic pride of Britain' defender type way I suspect they won't bother trying to push any ban out further than Suarez's.

Suarez did eventually admit calling Evra a 'negrito'.

Yes, but you've missed my point. Suarez admitted saying the word but not that he or it was racist. To him it was the cultural equivalent of calling someone an idiot, it's just accepted banter.

So a cultural difference is worse than out and out racism?

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Post by The Special Juan on Thu 24 May 2012 - 10:32

Interesting read Laugh

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 24 May 2012 - 10:59

King Beer wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
King Beer wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
King Beer wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
John wrote:What's Terry's worst possible outcome of punishment (sorry best possible cos I cant stand him)???

I heard it's a 10 game ban if found guilty?

They've set a (poor) precedent with Suarez, doubt it'll exceed 8 games.

Different case here.

Suarez admitted making the slur, but claimed it was acceptable as thats the terminology they use in Uruguay.

Terry has vehemently denied the allegations. If he's found guilty they could (and should) throw the preverbial book at him.

Not sure I quite agree. They both say they are not racist and did not say anything racist.

The difference is that Suarez says what he said wasn't racist but he did say it whereas Terry has refused to accept he said anything at all.

Given that he's just gone to the World Cup and will probably, at some point, throw himself down in front of ball in a 'heroic pride of Britain' defender type way I suspect they won't bother trying to push any ban out further than Suarez's.

Suarez did eventually admit calling Evra a 'negrito'.

Yes, but you've missed my point. Suarez admitted saying the word but not that he or it was racist. To him it was the cultural equivalent of calling someone an idiot, it's just accepted banter.

So a cultural difference is worse than out and out racism?

I think you're still missing my point. I am not defending either play and would like to book to be thrown at both. I think the FA should've used the Suarez affair to take a really hard stance on racism (which is unacceptable whatever excuse might be levied) and given him a 6 month ban. Terry then should also get a 6 month ban.

However they didn't, they handed out a paltry 8 game ban.

My point is that both players deny saying anything racist (one by virtue of not believing 'negrito' was a racist slur, the other by denying he said anything at all). Therefore there is enough of a similarity between the cases for the FA to draw a parallel and punish them the same. The fact is both DID say something racist and have to be punished. The fact it took a statement under oath to catch Suarez and a video camera (I think) to catch Terry is not that important.

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Post by GSC on Fri 1 Jun 2012 - 12:27

Taarabt apparently wont play in the same team as Barton again. Probably miffed he lost the captaincy to that loser.
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